The Spectacles Thread.

[oldbreadstinks]

Need advice!!

Option 1: BUy from Online retailer 1

Frame = 280 USD

Lenses = 130 USD (Essilor Airway polycarbonate 1.6 with Crizal Alize AR Coatings)

Shipping : 15 USD

Inccurs GST 7%

so total will almost be ard 550 SG

Option2: Buy from Online retailer 2, but this retailer does not sell lenses

Frame : 240 USD
Shipping 20 USD

Total ard 320 SGD

Will not inccure GST but will have to make LEnses in SG.

The million $ question is how much will similar lens (Essilor Airway polycarbonate 1.6 with Crizal Alize AR Coatings) cost in SG to make? if make this in SG and add on to the cost, will it be higher then the 550SGD total from option 1

airwear costs $180sgd for RRP locally

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Yeah, used to be lifetime replacement for earsock and nosepad.

For period within the 3 years, does the customer need to go to their service centre?

Tia gong. newer models got more problems.
col peel, welding come off.

ear sock rubbers depends on wearer,mine lasted me 5 years.. average user around 0.5 years to 1 year

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Buying Oakley RX locally might not be attractive anymore as now they do not have lifetime earsocks and nosepad change out after they changed the distributorship.

The earsock and nosepad kit only cost 10 USD but they charge me 30 SGD to change. What an inflated price.

Btw, the earsock and nosepad still can be change for free within 3 years of date of purchase.

they used to use the foc change to combat online sellers

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Can recommend a good spec shop in east/central for making lens?

don't mind paying a bit more.retail price lah
chain got capitol, Tia gong tampines tiongbahru service not bad
anchorpoint point ok but watch out for an old lady.

North east serangoon nex got Eyechamp

price concerns... can only advise to bargain.

neighborhood generally cheaper if never kenna carrot head and you get what you paid for .

 

[oldbreadstinks]

He should have been through some bad experiences. Should have bought high grade titanium that are durable, corrosion resistant and strong.

what would be your idea of high grade titanium?

I think that term.... a bit subjective in optical trade.... among staff never heard that term locally.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Mine broke after 2 days. To be fair, I was constantly trying to adjust the end of the temple to the right angle.

except for minimal adjustments
plastic materials. have to be heated to prevent material from cracking

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Hi Seannie,

sorry for the late reply.

Only until recently was i able to find time to go back to the shop.
The optician insisted that they have given me ZEISS lens and not Sola (a brand under Carl Zeiss Vision).

When i asked them about the Guarantee Card with the prescription, they say sometimes the lens maker will forget to pass it to them. LOL

Then they took down my prescription and say they will request for the Guarantee Card. They promised that they will call me when it is ready for collection.

I will wait until end of Jan to see if they can keep their promise. The shop is at Queensway btw.

all prescription cards come with the orders unless they do their own cutting
excluding screw ups the shop would receive the cards 95% of the time.

in the event you kenna like I did before they can call up if lenses are cut by Zeiss and with the invoice number request and receive the card within 2-5 working days .

other ways of verifications include laser logo on the lenses

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Hi I am interested to get a pair of swissflex rainbow specs.....any one knows where I can get them at reasonable prices?(what are the prices like anyway)Been reading this thread.....seems like the prices varies greatly btw shop to shop.....I do not wanna end up being ripped off them......Thanks.....

rainbow full frames should be retailing for around 320 anything higher ask for a discount and push it below $320

 

[Seannie]

what would be your idea of high grade titanium?

I think that term.... a bit subjective in optical trade.... among staff never heard that term locally.

There are many grades of titanium, there is the regular titanium, the beta titanium, many many types.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

There are many grades of titanium, there is the regular titanium, the beta titanium, many many types.

which would be considered high grade?

 

[Seannie]

which would be considered high grade?

Gummetal. Stronger, more resistant, more flexible, more durable.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Gummetal. Stronger, more resistant, more flexible, more durable.

I think that's an alloy. in its own bracket liao ... not really what you call better grade.

I think beta titanium is common nowadays but its not possible to make a whole pair of glasses with such materials .

too light.. would just fall off so legs would still have to be coated with a softer heavier material



but I do personally believe frame material depends on the person. there's no one size fit all.
personally I dislike pressure, so I'm wearing a pair of plastic rimless.
but as noticed some wearers actually prefer heavier frames. especially when talking about rough usage .
I actually feel stainless steel, good stainless steel frames last longer with careless users .
like ic Berlin, but durablity might be due to a weldingless design. but the same design cannot be used on titanium frames.

 

[holmie]

hey people.. vision link at yew tee selling tag heuer damn cheap..can buy online somemore

VisionLink Optical and Contact Lens | Singapore's Premier Online Store for branded eye wear such as Braun Buffel, Mercedes and many more!

by the way i wanna make a pair of spec online..probably at

Glasses & Designer Sunglasses Online | Prescription Glasses from £6

i wanna make from there as price and shipping cheap.. gonna get oakley crosslink..

BUT i need to get my eye reading rite? can go any specs shop? will they give? accurate not?

 

[Seannie]

I think that's an alloy. in its own bracket liao ... not really what you call better grade.

I think beta titanium is common nowadays but its not possible to make a whole pair of glasses with such materials .

too light.. would just fall off so legs would still have to be coated with a softer heavier material

yes, you are right, Gummetal is a hightech titanium alloy, not quite the same as the usual beta-titanium. It still retains its solid high-strength properties whilst being flexible & soft. It has ultra-low elastic modulus, super elasticity, having quite an unique microstructure.

Usually legs are coated with plastic temple tips, and titanium frames are not really that light as you said. In fact IC!Berlin frames are even lighter even though made of heavier material, the reason being they make into thin sheets. The key here is the thickness of the metal. You can have stainless steel lighter than titanium as long as the manufacturer make the stainless steel into superthin sheets like IC!Berlin. I have not personally tested the strength of IC!berlin stainless steel sheets so I do not know how much stress they can take before breaking, but i got the belief that in comparison titanium alloys like Gummetal should outlast.

 

[Citiguy]

Tia gong. newer models got more problems.
col peel, welding come off.

ear sock rubbers depends on wearer,mine lasted me 5 years.. average user around 0.5 years to 1 year

oldbreadstinks, thanks for the update. Wah! Quality has deteriorated so much? Welding coming off!

Ah! Your earsock lasted so long? For me, it is half a year max.

 

[Seannie]

personally I dislike pressure, so I'm wearing a pair of plastic rimless.
but as noticed some wearers actually prefer heavier frames. especially when talking about rough usage .
I actually feel stainless steel, good stainless steel frames last longer with careless users .
like ic Berlin, but durablity might be due to a weldingless design. but the same design cannot be used on titanium frames.

And the thing about pressure is that most of the weight of our spectacles are on our noses.
And heavier frames should not be equated to rough usage, because if you really need rough usage you should be going for solid frames & not heavy frames. Heavy frames do not necessarily give you better strength. I personally cannot fit into IC!berlin frames because their design are too catered for european fit. Straight temples, nosepads. They keep sliding off my face. Not because they are too light, but because of their design. If you realise the steel sheets/hinges are not flexible. Rather the flexibility comes from the part closer to the nose bridge area.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

yes, you are right, Gummetal is a hightech titanium alloy, not quite the same as the usual beta-titanium. It still retains its solid high-strength properties whilst being flexible & soft. It has ultra-low elastic modulus, super elasticity, having quite an unique microstructure.

Usually legs are coated with plastic temple tips, and titanium frames are not really that light as you said. In fact IC!Berlin frames are even lighter even though made of heavier material, the reason being they make into thin sheets. The key here is the thickness of the metal. You can have stainless steel lighter than titanium as long as the manufacturer make the stainless steel into superthin sheets like IC!Berlin. I have not personally tested the strength of IC!berlin stainless steel sheets so I do not know how much stress they can take before breaking, but i got the belief that in comparison titanium alloys like Gummetal should outlast.

never seen any gummetal frames before.
but due to the strength of the material it's unlikely to make titanium glasses with ic berlin design.
for a design like that you need stainless spring steel. titanium is simply not strong/firm enough since metal rimlon designs like these requires the lenses to support the frame instead of the other way round.

wanted to make ic berlin but even at a special price really can't bear to pull the trigger on them. maybe when my finances get better
i think after oakley my next fave brand would be ic berlin

 

[oldbreadstinks]

oldbreadstinks, thanks for the update. Wah! Quality has deteriorated so much? Welding coming off!

Ah! Your earsock lasted so long? For me, it is half a year max.

I wash and dry them everytime I wear them. not possible for normal users. I'm very niao with glasses.

when my sunglasses and glasses are dirty I won't wipe them. I'll wear them dirty til I get to a washroom and rinse.

so rarely have scratches


I've even known one lady who makes her maid unscrew the nosepads every night to clean them with a toothbrush.



oakley quality dropped as soon as they change to funky new designs. welded parts.
if you noticed previous designs no welding, no screws. pop in for sg hinges.
use dense alloys.

then the italians took over.

spring hinges become more common, titanium frames plus more welded parts.
suddenly sunglasses have so many new models with legs fasten by screws
for a modern look

edit:anyway just to make things clear, it's not col peeling for all their stuff.
just that i noticed the incidents are getting more and more frequent

maybe cannot cope with the demand so QC drop...

 

[oldbreadstinks]

And the thing about pressure is that most of the weight of our spectacles are on our noses..

I think that's because your glasses are too light so they don't balance. I'm wearing swissflex trend I think? polycarb lenses so the weight's quite balanced(low prescription)

but one thing I see with spec users is they have high power big lenses and very light frames so the front's too heavy to balance

designs like A.mikli made sure the temple tips are thicker to add weight so although they feel heavy in your hands, they will actually feel balanced on the face.

And heavier frames should not be equated to rough usage, because if you really need rough usage you should be going for solid frames & not heavy frames. Heavy frames do not necessarily give you better strength. I personally cannot fit into IC!berlin frames because their design are too catered for european fit. Straight temples, nosepads. They keep sliding off my face. Not because they are too light, but because of their design. If you realise the steel sheets/hinges are not flexible. Rather the flexibility comes from the part closer to the nose bridge area.

oh, if you have a typical east asian head(big and round bumps at the side) , ask your optician to open up the legs and curve the back tips in to flush with your head .
I do that with my glases if they slide.

I was thinking about the oakley old designs when they used really dense materials . you can chuck them around and they'll really last.

back when they only cost $1-200

 

[Seannie]

I think that's because your glasses are too light so they don't balance. I'm wearing swissflex trend I think? polycarb lenses so the weight's quite balanced(low prescription)

but one thing I see with spec users is they have high power big lenses and very light frames so the front's too heavy to balance

designs like A.mikli made sure the temple tips are thicker to add weight so although they feel heavy in your hands, they will actually feel balanced on the face.

I get wat you mean. Heavier at the temple end in order to balance the front part. Im just curious, if the back is heavier, wont the weight at the back also gets transferred to our nose in front as well? Or is the weight distribution at the back just limited to our ears only? I have tried Zen eyewear before, and like what you have said, the frame is pretty heavy when felt on the hands but when worn on the face dont really feel heavy. But due to my worry of the weight, I have not actually bought one to try it out yet. I may consider testing this point out in the future to see how well this theory holds water.

At the current moment, I only dare to wear titanium frames as I find that minimising the entire weight of my spectacles is very important. You are right in that my prescription is very high, as such my lenses are inevitably heavy, even though I have alreday used super high index & double aspheric design to cut the weight.