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Have you worn transition lens before? Can u feel the difference? I m a first timer user and my progressive photofusion frame fit lens costs me almost $2k. It was highly recommended by optician for clarity. Today is my third day using it, can't really tell the difference..except That the lens has a grayish tint even indoors away from sun. I wonder over time it would b a good investment...


QUOTE=Singaporean80;72752457]I using for abt 7 mths.I feel that the lens are very prone to scratches.Do note that i am using only the micro fibre cloth to clean the lense only.(no t shirt/tissue paper to clean) . I have even done a one to one exchange on my lense liao but still the same problem after 1 mth.Lazy to exchange again ...:o

1st time bought carl zeiss and is a bit disappointed.I will try other brands after my current specs retired.:D
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Currently i have another essilor transition lens make in jb few yrs ago.In terms of clarity i think i have to said zeiss is a lot better.The other difference is i think my photofusion changes colour much faster than my transition and even it's indoor,where there is little sunlight,it will also slightly change darker.


But my optician told me that photofusion might be able to change colour when u are inside a car driving.She told me to try it as she is not sure if it works.I tried b4 liao.Sadly it does not work.:D
 

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I think fatigue stems from the rigid structure and maybe weight of the frame? Or it could be part of getting old.

Any recommendation for models/brands accommodating to my needs? ic! berlin's Nufenen (M/L) & Satetsch (M/L) are what I have in mind now, but I would like to have a professional opinion to make a more informed choice.

It should be part of getting old. I don't have so many problems when I was younger but since few years back I have been having this "fatigue" problem. When I was young, even heavy frames don't pose such problems but now no matter what I wear just seems not right and it could just be the fatigue you are toking bout.
 

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Nose pads can be easily replaced anywhere but temple tips cannot. If i have the chance i wont buy dun eyewear again.

But Dun eyewear temple tips and nosepads all made of plastic and not silicone :s11:

My earlier post is actually referring to icberlin's temple tips & nosepads both made of silicone. Did you get the brand wrong? To what I know, Japanese frames are all made of plastic temple tips and nosepads thus making them very durable to use. So far never come across jap frames that uses silicone on their frames. And even in the existence of such rare occasions that you may have come across, I doubt it is often they have such design flaws. Japanese frames are known for their impeccable functionality and quality. They will not go and design something that don't last and they will make sure their product gets improved.
 
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SANKOKOGAKU.CO.,LTD. (?)????

is this the dun frame you're talking about?

Yessir that's right. That's the one. Mine is the 2051 model and it just looks cool. Suitable for executive style as well as casual style. Sleek & deceptively simple, the draw point is the frame material very soft titanium yet not losing its robust strength. Better than those memory beta titanium where the weakness is that when you bend memory beta Titan too much it is hard to let it return to the exact original shape & it gets bent way too easily.
 

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Currently i have another essilor transition lens make in jb few yrs ago.In terms of clarity i think i have to said zeiss is a lot better.The other difference is i think my photofusion changes colour much faster than my transition and even it's indoor,where there is little sunlight,it will also slightly change darker.


But my optician told me that photofusion might be able to change colour when u are inside a car driving.She told me to try it as she is not sure if it works.I tried b4 liao.Sadly it does not work.:D[/QUOTE]

transitions is just another company doing research on photochromic tech
all current photochromic lenses require UV rays to change col
don't say car, just your baseball cap blocking the sunlight from them is enough to stop them from turning.
 

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My next specs i will try hoya.:D I think there is really something wrong with the lenses also but i lazy to do exchange liao cox the first time i did the exchange,they took ard 2 weeks to do it.:eek:

But have to said that zeiss after sales service is not bad cox when i took my specs to the shop,they chu pattern don wanna change for me.Than i went home and send a email to carl zeiss telling them my problem and their singapore sales director personally call me and come down to take my specs and do a exchange for me.

They even ask for the name of my optical shop which refused to changed for me.Dunno wad happened after that cox i'am not interested and will not go bk to the shop anymore.:D guess branded names still care about their reputation.:s13:

in theory assuming they're really scratches, there's no warranty. so if the shop changes the lenses for you it essentially means they're buying a new pair for you. which means they're actually losing money selling you the lenses.
furthermore it is actually stated scratches are covered by the warranty. though they should have tried to send it in for you to let the lab check.
but truthfully, assuming they really were scratches most shops wouldn't do an exchange for you unless you're a regular there.

for zeiss to change the lenses for you the cost is on zeiss's side, money not an issue.
it's a multinational company, everyone's an employee. no one would have any qualms spending their company's money.

? 2 weeks? some special lens?
 

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Other than Dun, you can also consider 999.9, Japonism, BCPC etc.

I personally do not like ICBerlin fitting & also the hinge mechanism. I find the hinge not solid intact enough. And also I feel that icberlin do not cater to our Asian feature esp for people whose head are wide like mine. And another thing is the cost. I feel we are being chopped carrot for a piece of stainless steel.


japanese frames don't really sell well in sg.
pricing wise to ex for low end customers, style wise also not for those who don't like to stand out.
for those who can afford it, they rather go for reknown brands.
like how no matter how lasting and efficient a toyota or honda is..... you'll never pay the same amount for them as you would an audi or BMW.

I think your bad experience with ic berlin has really put you off but trust me if I tell you this, I can hardly think of any other frame in the market that is as sturdy as ic berlin.
you're paying for the brand as well otherwise a piece of sheet metal would be very cheap right? I don't know who told you it's ok and easy to fiddle with the legs but it's not supposed to be done unless you have experience.
really, else even if you don't twist the metal you'll still scratch the paint off.
try doing that to a japanese frame the welded areas will just pop off.

titanium does cost more but you need to think about how a japanese titanium frame costs so much more then one brandless china made one. and for the good ones they last as long. craftsmanship? if you buy that story.

remember there's a bloody brand of watch which ran an ad about how Tibetan monks bring down natural saphire crystals
so that they can charge you a watch for at least $100,000
 

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Yessir that's right. That's the one. Mine is the 2051 model and it just looks cool. Suitable for executive style as well as casual style. Sleek & deceptively simple, the draw point is the frame material very soft titanium yet not losing its robust strength. Better than those memory beta titanium where the weakness is that when you bend memory beta Titan too much it is hard to let it return to the exact original shape & it gets bent way too easily.

I think you really like them but trust me, they don't sell
and as long as they don't sell, shops won't carry them.
I know you like the look but japonism and dun and basically anything with the same look simply do not sell. a large part has to do with the look of the frame.
local crowds don't find it appealing.

and like someone here has experienced, if it doesn't sell, shops don't carry them, which also means it's harder to get them serviced if you're the unlucky guy with a defective piece.
 

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But Dun eyewear temple tips and nosepads all made of plastic and not silicone :s11:

My earlier post is actually referring to icberlin's temple tips & nosepads both made of silicone. Did you get the brand wrong? To what I know, Japanese frames are all made of plastic temple tips and nosepads thus making them very durable to use. So far never come across jap frames that uses silicone on their frames. And even in the existence of such rare occasions that you may have come across, I doubt it is often they have such design flaws. Japanese frames are known for their impeccable functionality and quality. They will not go and design something that don't last and they will make sure their product gets improved.

they really need to start pay you lol I think you sound more enthusiastic then their salesman

but the plastic part do crack or break depending on the elements you expose it to.
 

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Hi blackmel if you are someone concerned abt the grip of a frame then swissflex is out becos it slips off very easily. I changed three different types of their nosepads and still it doesn't hold stable on the face so in the end I have to give it up.

mine holds really well?

but your prescription must not be too high, and the legs must be adjusted properly. maybe sides must be loosen for wider heads.
extreme cases maybe you need a larger nosepad? size 3 or something like that.
 

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Not only are the temple tips made of silicone, the nosepads are also made of silicone, meaning they will also tarnish with use and needs to be replaced.

silicone increases the friction allowing the frame to stay on.
but it's meant to be perishable? have to be replaced now and then
 

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Any brands to recommend for "Glasses" NOT "Plastics Lenses"?


1. For Multi-coated Glass, Index 1.67 above with short-sighted + progressive [Far/Centre/Near]
1a. Prefer Clear type, purple-red glasses {NOT Green-Clear glasses}
1b. Brand/type/RP$/discount/etc/Which shop?



e.g. Essilor, [Plastic Only] Varilux Range:
i.e. A1 Highest Range: Varilux Ipseo
i.e. A2 2nd Range: Varilux Physio 2.0 [or call n360] ...True for seeing/reading near ...text/words much bigger+ viewing angle wider ++Sharp vision high contrast
i.e. A3 3rd Range: Varilux Comfort
i.e. A4 : Varilux Liberty


Thanks.
 
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Any brands to recommend for "Glasses" NOT "Plastics Lenses"?


1. For Multi-coated Glass, Index 1.67 above with short-sighted + progressive [Far/Centre/Near]
1a. Prefer Clear type, purple-red glasses {NOT Green-Clear glasses}
1b. Brand/type/RP$/discount/etc/Which shop?



e.g. Essilor, [Plastic Only] Varilux Range:
i.e. A1 Highest Range: Varilux Ipseo
i.e. A2 2nd Range: Varilux Physio 2.0 [or call n360] ...True for seeing/reading near ...text/words much bigger+ viewing angle wider ++Sharp vision high contrast
i.e. A3 3rd Range: Varilux Comfort
i.e. A4 : Varilux Liberty


Thanks.

A2 cost how much in sg?
 

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More than half the dun models have silicone tips. Similar in material to Oakley earsocks and just as lousy.

wear and tear, from my exp, most oakley chui within half year need to replace pading liao. mine lasted 5 years
clean every time you wear lor... but glasses a bit hard to do that.

for materials that increase friction it's to be expected ba?

I'm still aiming for an oakley radar
 

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A2 cost how much in sg?

A2 has been replaced by crizal advance, same product though, just a name change.

single vision from $130 onwards or was it $110 but they recently recslled the lenses for exchange to uv lens so I'm not sure about the prices anymore.

don't touch them much
 

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Any brands to recommend for "Glasses" NOT "Plastics Lenses"?


1. For Multi-coated Glass, Index 1.67 above with short-sighted + progressive [Far/Centre/Near]
1a. Prefer Clear type, purple-red glasses {NOT Green-Clear glasses}
1b. Brand/type/RP$/discount/etc/Which shop?



e.g. Essilor, [Plastic Only] Varilux Range:
i.e. A1 Highest Range: Varilux Ipseo
i.e. A2 2nd Range: Varilux Physio 2.0 [or call n360] ...True for seeing/reading near ...text/words much bigger+ viewing angle wider ++Sharp vision high contrast
i.e. A3 3rd Range: Varilux Comfort
i.e. A4 : Varilux Liberty


Thanks.

essilor only does varilux comfort design for glass.
you can request for purple coating if that's what you want. certain lenses allow that.

try zeiss perhaps?
but zeiss might be green? haven't seen much glass lenses from them. glass customers not common these days.

zeiss progressive "choice" retails at $620 for 1.6 and $800 for 1.8
coating's green though

edit:possible to request for purple irosa but subject to stock availability and possibly up to 3 weeks or more
 
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More than half the dun models have silicone tips. Similar in material to Oakley earsocks and just as lousy.

My model is plastic temple tip coating, the newer model. Those that I saw are all with plastic tips, maybe you happen to come across all silicone. If I were to see silicone, I will never buy as we'll becos silicone is comfy but not lasting.
 

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A2 cost how much in sg?


FYI: For Airwear {Index 1.60}, Varilux Physio 2.0 [or call n360] + Transitions; RPs$1280 , without transitions less than RPs$1000

Note: Some shop will give discount, various from 0%, 10%, 15%, 20%, etc of the RP$$
RP$$ shows in the Crizal/Essilor catalog ....with the description ....type ... extra

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A2 has been replaced by crizal advance, same product though, just a name change.

single vision from $130 onwards or was it $110 but they recently recslled the lenses for exchange to uv lens so I'm not sure about the prices anymore.

don't touch them much
 
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