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It's called refractive index. In theory, the higher the number the more that particular type of plastic bends light rays, so the less is needed and the lens appears thinner

On whether it's better, like you said, depends on the degree, and cost.
High prescription means sides would be thicker for myopia wearers technically high index lenses reduces distortion and prismatic effects.... but the higher the index you go the lower the optical quality is.. it's more of a balancing thing. If you have like -8.00 you'll definitely find 1.67-1.74 better than 1.6 .

(tag heuers ) If price is a concern, go for a minor authorized dealer, they can be more flexible regarding prices if you know what you want. If it's the satisfaction of the purchase, I'll suggest places with a counter specifically for tag Heuer, like say eyechamp in nex, it's called a shop in shop? Range is bigger, you can see what you're buying , you won't get carrot headed, but no low ball prices either.


Posche and starck serve different markets. Porsche is generally colder, more metallic, looks modern.
Starck has an arty farty look to their glasses. More like modern arts. Porsche buyers tend to be more serious and want to look serious. Starck.... more casual, but is a casual chic thing not T-shirt shorts casual
A few of their designs of uncommon colours in places seen only at a certain angle.

Most labs would have something "better" than Hoya lenses but not in all areas. You can't say something's really better

Wow thanks bro for spending the time to explain to me. Ok shall go look around....the funny thing is tag heuer in france was more expensive than eyechamp pricing.
 

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Hello, I am a noob in the spectacles world, so forgive me.

I am just wondering, will there be any year end promo for reputable specs shop like optical 88 etc? I am planning to buy one. Thanks.
 

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Hello, I am a noob in the spectacles world, so forgive me.

I am just wondering, will there be any year end promo for reputable specs shop like optical 88 etc? I am planning to buy one. Thanks.

There's always a year end sale, but you might be able to get a way better deal, we're talking way way better, simply by bargaining with relevant info.

No need to do hardcore bargaining. Just check around at retail prices
And ask for a discount. Make sure you look at the price list for lenses and know what you're buying.

Due to the way things are, chain stores offer package deals all year round.
And most places allow bargaining.
Just negotiate nicely if you're paying quite a fair bit since it's no use buying something expensive, and souring relationships by lowballing, you have to factor in warranty and servicing costs too.
For items that are "wanted" it's almost impossible to get an awesome deal unless you know the people in the shop, are a long time customer or damned skilled at bargaining
 

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Hello, I am a noob in the spectacles world, so forgive me.

I am just wondering, will there be any year end promo for reputable specs shop like optical 88 etc? I am planning to buy one. Thanks.

88 wise... just be happy with your service received. Their regular deals are already quite good for basic glasses.
If you're getting something branded or semi branded. Check around first for more info regarding the specific item.
 

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Wow thanks bro for spending the time to explain to me. Ok shall go look around....the funny thing is tag heuer in france was more expensive than eyechamp pricing.

Means Eyechamp ish good pricing? :s22:

Eyechamp's main draw, (based on core group of staff ) would be great service and complaints get answered .
Currently still not as large as the bigger chains so is somewhat better managed where customer relations are concerned.
Plus they have a card thing for you to get points, I don't recall the percentage either 3 ,5 or 10% rebates.
If you like a long term relationship bah?
 

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88 wise... just be happy with your service received. Their regular deals are already quite good for basic glasses.
If you're getting something branded or semi branded. Check around first for more info regarding the specific item.

There's always a year end sale, but you might be able to get a way better deal, we're talking way way better, simply by bargaining with relevant info.

No need to do hardcore bargaining. Just check around at retail prices
And ask for a discount. Make sure you look at the price list for lenses and know what you're buying.

Due to the way things are, chain stores offer package deals all year round.
And most places allow bargaining.
Just negotiate nicely if you're paying quite a fair bit since it's no use buying something expensive, and souring relationships by lowballing, you have to factor in warranty and servicing costs too.
For items that are "wanted" it's almost impossible to get an awesome deal unless you know the people in the shop, are a long time customer or damned skilled at bargaining

Wow, that's definitely informative!

Is there any good semi-branded specs I can get? I want one that is durable. Should I also wait for the year end sale (and when will it be)?
 
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Wow, that's definitely informative!

Is there any good semi-branded specs I can get? I want one that is durable. Should I also wait for the year end sale (and when will it be)?

After being in retail for so long, year end sales becomes somewhat of a myth.
Let's be honest, if you're looking for a hot item say, normally it sells for $100 , people are just going to come in and grab it. No one's going to give 50% off and sell it to you at $50


Only a handful of retailers make it a point to "spoil the market "
If you're looking for a specific model for rayban / Paul Frank. Chances are there isn't much "new stock for you to order. Not when the whole island is selling the Same thing . Stock costs money, no one is going to pre empt consumers and order extra stock to sit there and wait for people to buy unless they're confident it'll sell off.
It's not a optical trade specific thing, pretty much affects all trades.
That lovely dress being marked down for 60% isn't going to be current season.



is Levi's considered semi branded? Rayban? Nowadays with a. Newer range made in China you can get them as a whole set for like $150 plus minus, but definitely below $200.




Sales wise, I still think it's a kio tio sai thing. Sales usually are meant to clear stock. But occassionally, large chains like capitol do ware houses sales and at least once out of three times I was there is noticed very nice bargains for new stuff. Not often but if the staff screw up you can get current season items for a 35-50% off with lenses included
 

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Means Eyechamp ish good pricing? :s22:

Eyechamp's main draw, (based on core group of staff ) would be great service and complaints get answered .
Currently still not as large as the bigger chains so is somewhat better managed where customer relations are concerned.
Plus they have a card thing for you to get points, I don't recall the percentage either 3 ,5 or 10% rebates.
If you like a long term relationship bah?

yea better than in france...i went there hoping to get it cheaper but boy was i wrong lolz....anyways i called kwongshin they charge me way cheaper le....480 for frames....lens have hoya and nikon 380 vs 400....definitely will take nikon but need wait 2 weeks....
 

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yea better than in france...i went there hoping to get it cheaper but boy was i wrong lolz....anyways i called kwongshin they charge me way cheaper le....480 for frames....lens have hoya and nikon 380 vs 400....definitely will take nikon but need wait 2 weeks....

They don't take Kindly to bargaining I guess.
Prices were around 600++ some newer ones $500 ++ almost 6 here
On average around 10-30% off
Differences probably wouldn't be that big without discounts

Nikon not done here, hence two weeks
 

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They don't take Kindly to bargaining I guess.
Prices were around 600++ some newer ones $500 ++ almost 6 here
On average around 10-30% off
Differences probably wouldn't be that big without discounts

Nikon not done here, hence two weeks

Nikon lens any good, worth it anot?
 

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Nikon lens any good, worth it anot?

Single vision lenses considered one of the better ones, lens coating quite smooth. Pressed my thumb in light and the oil smudge is minimal, still have a bit but minimal.
If you can afford it, for high astigmatism prescriptions their double aspherical lenses reduce distortion for funny axis angles

Eh haha for me... I just feel that it's expensive that's all. It's a good lens but a bit over priced. Not so much that it's not worth the price
But when other Japanese lens companies offer similar products at a lower cost only less packaged it's hard to justify Nikon's price
It's distributed by Essilor here so the delivery is great. Less problems with warranty.

Progressive wise. You have to understand they have a different philosophy. For lens quality there's a huge difference between basic, branded, branded back surface lenses.
But past back surface designs. And onto premium stuff, sometimes whether you like the lenses depends on your wearing habits.
There are rare cases where a customer purchased two pairs of progressives, one was Nikon. The other another back surface lens, both ain't cheap but Nikon costs maybe 20-30% more. When he tried the lenses, the pair he preferred wasn't Nikon.

I can vouch that premium lenses allow better fitting experiences, faster adaptation but not which is better because it boils down to personal habits
 

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so in your opinion, which are the better single vision lens irregardless of brands/price?

it's all subjective but just like to hear your point of view :)

Single vision lenses considered one of the better ones, lens coating quite smooth. Pressed my thumb in light and the oil smudge is minimal, still have a bit but minimal.
If you can afford it, for high astigmatism prescriptions their double aspherical lenses reduce distortion for funny axis angles

Eh haha for me... I just feel that it's expensive that's all. It's a good lens but a bit over priced. Not so much that it's not worth the price
But when other Japanese lens companies offer similar products at a lower cost only less packaged it's hard to justify Nikon's price
It's distributed by Essilor here so the delivery is great. Less problems with warranty.

Progressive wise. You have to understand they have a different philosophy. For lens quality there's a huge difference between basic, branded, branded back surface lenses.
But past back surface designs. And onto premium stuff, sometimes whether you like the lenses depends on your wearing habits.
There are rare cases where a customer purchased two pairs of progressives, one was Nikon. The other another back surface lens, both ain't cheap but Nikon costs maybe 20-30% more. When he tried the lenses, the pair he preferred wasn't Nikon.

I can vouch that premium lenses allow better fitting experiences, faster adaptation but not which is better because it boils down to personal habits
 

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Anyone can recommend what lenses and frame to go for with a budget of <=$350 and where to get them from? Power is -4.00 last checked, uninformed of the presence of astigmatism. Read through the past 50 pages seems like most of the popular lenses go for >$200. Any frame of decent quality at affordable pricing? Ideal style would be something like this
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take only HOYA.

HI-VISION LongLife

No hoya no buy.

forget about wat nikon, under same group as the crizal-producing essilor.

Give u a comparison and u go think for yourselves.

hoya is like carlsberg. crizal is like anchor beer. nikon is like tiger. zeiss is like the foreign imported beer expensive.

Carlsberg is smooth, cheap & satisfying. Want to try others? No problems. BUt ultimately in the long run u still prefer carlsberg. Best bang for your buck. Best value in the mkt.

Hoya is Quality Assurance.

Cheers.
 

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no offense but you clearly showed a bias towards this brand.

it's a quality lens, that's all :)

take only HOYA.

HI-VISION LongLife

No hoya no buy.

forget about wat nikon, under same group as the crizal-producing essilor.

Give u a comparison and u go think for yourselves.

hoya is like carlsberg. crizal is like anchor beer. nikon is like tiger. zeiss is like the foreign imported beer expensive.

Carlsberg is smooth, cheap & satisfying. Want to try others? No problems. BUt ultimately in the long run u still prefer carlsberg. Best bang for your buck. Best value in the mkt.

Hoya is Quality Assurance.

Cheers.
 

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take only HOYA.

HI-VISION LongLife

No hoya no buy.

forget about wat nikon, under same group as the crizal-producing essilor.

Give u a comparison and u go think for yourselves.

hoya is like carlsberg. crizal is like anchor beer. nikon is like tiger. zeiss is like the foreign imported beer expensive.

Carlsberg is smooth, cheap & satisfying. Want to try others? No problems. BUt ultimately in the long run u still prefer carlsberg. Best bang for your buck. Best value in the mkt.

Hoya is Quality Assurance.

Cheers.

:s13: don't drink beer, hate the taste.
It's doesn't matter how good or as how some introduce it to me as "fruity " still tastes like beer
The thing about Hoya and Nikon is they're both Japanese lenses.
And the interesting thing is. They get into bed together very often.


Product specs and cost wise in Singapore, Hoya and Nikon is actually very similar.
But Hoya is distributed by Hoya, Nikon by Essilor
One result of this is Nikon is distributed as a premium product with Essilor taking up the other tiers.
Hoya covers top to middle range. Try comparing the top end stuff and you'll notice trinity lenses all cost more than $1k for Hoya

Same goes for Zeiss really. Their aim was never the lower tier markets. They can't compete based on price. So they aim for quality.

A better comparison would be I phones
Apple don't do cheap stuff, that's Nikon and Zeiss here
Hoya on the other hand acts like Samsung, you can buy a galaxy tab or a cheap low end smart phone with lower specs
 
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