The Watch Thread - Part 14

[gaoxing84]

Seems like a 39mm OVM is around the corner.

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They should just redo the Paul Newman.
Problem is movement constraint.
Or do a big block tudor.

 

[yattokame]

 

[bryando]

Cause life's too short to worry about the premium game.

 

[Ed.YEO]

They should just redo the Paul Newman.
Problem is movement constraint.
Or do a big block tudor.

要是重新/更新 地通拿致敬款，採用7753計時機芯。。。會加重成本。就算依樣採用 計時模組+2892機芯 的雙模組合，成本提高一些，最後定價也是要提高。

除非。。。Sellitas推出“7753”復刻+縮小版機芯，成本比ETA來得低。Steinhart 就能給旗下雙模組合計時機芯錶款，來個機芯提升。

 

[gaoxing84]

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Cause life's too short to worry about the premium game.:)[/QUOTE]

only when you're well off.

doesn't apply to everyone.
:)

 

[yashirob]

Typical fashion is (what i guess).
AD receive stocks, cannot sell premium and they know its hot.
doing business, standard, profit first. So offload to grey at a premium.
But the premium is not high enough till grey cannot earn.
So grey will up price, sell to people like us who is supposed to go buy from AD.

ADs don have to sell popular models at premium to sustain biz. rolex for sure give them enough margins to be v comfortable alr...

its not typical biz go for profit...there will be profits alr without premiums for popular models. its greed.

 

[gaoxing84]

ADs don have to sell popular models at premium to sustain biz. rolex for sure give them enough margins to be v comfortable alr...

its not typical biz go for profit...there will be profits alr without premiums for popular models. its greed.

haha ya true, greed, sorry not profit.

usually be AD, the profit alr there even sell at RRP. so given discount, say max of 15%. they still have enough margin to cover. earn lesser only but still comfortable to run the show.

but ever since the boom of the greater china market, rolex as always, symbol of status, became more popular. demand there is crazy.
So all AD decide to offload to grey dealers.

cannot blame SAs since its instructions and directions of the mgmt team.
Maybe they get a cut of the profit as comm but the boss is the one who huat.

i see rolex SA there everyday zuo bo. time kan hard to pass.

 

[bryando]

only when you're well off.

doesn't apply to everyone.

Well off or not its each to its own.

I dont even own a car.

Just have a love for watches since young.

 

[yashirob]

haha ya true, greed, sorry not profit.

usually be AD, the profit alr there even sell at RRP. so given discount, say max of 15%. they still have enough margin to cover. earn lesser only but still comfortable to run the show.

but ever since the boom of the greater china market, rolex as always, symbol of status, became more popular. demand there is crazy.
So all AD decide to offload to grey dealers.

cannot blame SAs since its instructions and directions of the mgmt team.
Maybe they get a cut of the profit as comm but the boss is the one who huat.

i see rolex SA there everyday zuo bo. time kan hard to pass.

i think u have more insider knowledge...is it only SG ADs or are all ADs around the world doing the same. From my understanding, the article in business times a long time ago was only refering to SG ADs...

 

[gaoxing84]

Well off or not its each to its own.

I dont even own a car.

Just have a love for watches since young.

that is great! watches > cars (in SG only) LOL

 

[gaoxing84]

i think u have more insider knowledge...is it only SG ADs or are all ADs around the world doing the same. From my understanding, the article in business times a long time ago was only refering to SG ADs...

not alot of insider info ba. pure reading of forums.

In US, big dealers in big cities, sells to grey dealer in US themselves or maybe offload overseas buyers that buy in bulk.
Shipping is not an option as customs tax and all render it useless.
Risk of being stolen means insurance costs - all adds up.

In smaller cities where rolex AD is family owned or what not, those are the ones that legit sell to consumer only. may not have discounts but at least they do keep it in stock + small cities, not alot of folks would buy rolexes day in day out (Source- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=573914) the last time i see this scene in SG AD was back in 2015-2016.

Countries like iceland all these, they do have Rolex AD and they do have it in stock but they do the PWP scheme.
you have to buy a less than popular datejust or diamond studded piece then they are willing to sell you popular pieces like the Daytona C at retail.
This is from a friend who i told him to find Daytona C in iceland when he was there.
Actually it can be broken even.
Say you buy a datejust for 20k. DaytonaC at retail.
you come back sg, maybe offload to the datejust at a loss of say 3-5k.
Effectively you only pay 21-23k for a brand new Daytona C, at least 2-3k cheaper than it was offered here at 25-27k at ADs.
Risk is SG customs + unable to offload the datejust. So you must know your game well before you do this kind.


Usually Asian AD will chut pattern, western AD not so. But they don't offer discount as well as Asian AD used to do.
They offer freebies or what no afaik.

as for the complaints of premium, i think even in the US, it happened.
So Rolex received worldwide complains and decide to send an official email to all ADs.

As for people like Ben Clymer, John Mayer etc, they probably paid retail from AD since they're celebrities or important people in the world of watches.

People like us, can suck it up and pay premium.
I can tell you, Daytona Ceramic confirm u won't see retail in stores for another 2-3 years to come. Or even more.

Last time SS Daytona, walk into rolex AD still have, discount is about 3-5%.

 

[BigStick]

One way not to pay premium for these popular Rolex sports models is to forget about them - don't buy

Buy other brands such as JLC, AP (Some Rolex are priced like AP now), GP, Piaget and Blancpain

There are so many great choices out there

 

[arc13]

Well said

One way not to pay premium for these popular Rolex sports models is to forget about them - don't buy

Buy other brands such as JLC, AP (Some Rolex are priced like AP now), GP, Piaget and Blancpain

There are so many great choices out there

 

[gaoxing84]

One way not to pay premium for these popular Rolex sports models is to forget about them - don't buy

Buy other brands such as JLC, AP (Some Rolex are priced like AP now), GP, Piaget and Blancpain

There are so many great choices out there

yeap, but when the masses (non-WIS) buy luxury pieces, they always think of resell value.
when they need cash, Rolex gives the most value retention and its easy to let go plus brand recognition.
Rolex also got very nice designs here and there la.

Those already far into the watch world, would probably get sick of Rolex and get into higher end stuff.

 

[mpcdude]

It’s official, 39mm OVM Gnomon exclusive.

http://www.gnomonwatches.com/ocean-vintage-military-39-gnomon-exclusive

 

[snowver]

Many also circle back to rolex after experiencing the high end stuff.

yeap, but when the masses (non-WIS) buy luxury pieces, they always think of resell value.
when they need cash, Rolex gives the most value retention and its easy to let go plus brand recognition.
Rolex also got very nice designs here and there la.

Those already far into the watch world, would probably get sick of Rolex and get into higher end stuff.

 

[Ed.YEO]

One way not to pay premium for these popular Rolex sports models is to forget about them - don't buy

Buy other brands such as JLC, AP (Some Rolex are priced like AP now), GP, Piaget and Blancpain

There are so many great choices out there

問題是，多數人只會考慮轉手回收，是否會有回報，保值，還是一點虧損。
買勞力士的人當中，我敢說，以上形容的佔6成，3成是與港人心理一樣，在乎他人如何以錶看人，剩下的一成。。。就純粹帶個品牌在手，引人目光而已。。。

平常生活中我們就經常見到。。。。。。

兩架車幾乎一樣，225千

但係俾我揀嘅話。。。我會即刻選富豪

買錶都係一樣道理。。。我唔會選擇俾人炒高嘅品牌
而係買落物有所值嘅工藝，產品

如果 老叻 當年好得。。。就唔會用 真歷時機芯 嚟栽入自己嘅daytona啦，係嘛？​

。。。多數人還是會選擇馬賽地的。。。

 

[cyrenic]

Cause life's too short to worry about the premium game.

Sir, I have G Shock you wanna buy at good price of $1m

Life’s too short.

 

[cyrenic]

It’s official, 39mm OVM Gnomon exclusive.

http://www.gnomonwatches.com/ocean-vintage-military-39-gnomon-exclusive

Is it ltd ed? Not clear.

 

[mpcdude]

Is it ltd ed? Not clear.

Yeah I was confused regarding that too. Maybe first few have number engraved behind but the batch thereafter doesn’t have?