The Watch Thread - Part 16

[Kyo_kusanagi86]

SEIKO Kakis, this one good pricing mah?(was thinking of pushing down to $2.5k)

Not sure if spring drive is good technology as I no experience.

Sent from Xiaomi MI 9 LITE using GAGT

 

[bwaysaikryptonite]

Anyone heard of or has a Gorilla brand watch? Any comments on this brand?

dunch waste $ on tis brand

 

[Deathgod]

I sent in mine in Nov/Dec last year via the boutique. Decided to do it with them because I don't know any third party who can service the El Primero movement.

Overall the experience wasn't very good. To be fair, the service staff at the boutique were good and helpful. But I couldn't get in touch with the service center at all, except via a portal which shows the status of the servicing. The portal was not updated at all, and I only received my watch after a few months. The worst part - the service cost over $1,000 and I had no clue where my watch was or what was going on during the few months.

Hi what was your problems with the watch?
You have any ideas about the striking 10th red hand?

 

[Deathgod]

SEIKO Kakis, this one good pricing mah?(was thinking of pushing down to $2.5k)

Not sure if spring drive is good technology as I no experience.

Sent from Xiaomi MI 9 LITE using GAGT

there are tons of ongoing debate over the Spring Drive.
i was in the same dilemma some time ago as to get or not get the SD

the SD has all the parts of a mechanical watch needed to creates, stores power, yet the time keeping part is a Tri-synchro referring to a Quartz crystal.

a mechanical watch time keeping part is done by balance wheel and escapement

depends on the perspective one look from, SD can be consider as a Quartz using Mechanical movement for power or a Mechanical movement using a Quartz for time keeping.

in the end i concluded myself that SD is a Quartz that makes use of Mechanical movements for power.

a watch is to present and keep time thus if the SD uses a Quartz for time keeping instead of mechanical parts such as Balance Wheel and Escapement i will rather get a Casio G-Shock.

 

[carleon8]

Hi what was your problems with the watch?
You have any ideas about the striking 10th red hand?

I dropped the watch and some parts of the movement got dislodged. So it was a major repair. Maybe it's normal for a major repair to take a few months, but what irks me was the boutique had no clue what's going on with my watch, and there's no way i can check with the service center. Even the estimated date was way off.

I didn't have the striking hand problem that you have though.

 

[carleon8]

there are tons of ongoing debate over the Spring Drive.
i was in the same dilemma some time ago as to get or not get the SD

the SD has all the parts of a mechanical watch needed to creates, stores power, yet the time keeping part is a Tri-synchro referring to a Quartz crystal.

a mechanical watch time keeping part is done by balance wheel and escapement

depends on the perspective one look from, SD can be consider as a Quartz using Mechanical movement for power or a Mechanical movement using a Quartz for time keeping.

in the end i concluded myself that SD is a Quartz that makes use of Mechanical movements for power.

a watch is to present and keep time thus if the SD uses a Quartz for time keeping instead of mechanical parts such as Balance Wheel and Escapement i will rather get a Casio G-Shock.

I just got a Skyflake, and I love the sweeping hands achieved by Spring Drive, on top of the other stuff on the watch. But that's my own preference.

 

[Deathgod]

I dropped the watch and some parts of the movement got dislodged. So it was a major repair. Maybe it's normal for a major repair to take a few months, but what irks me was the boutique had no clue what's going on with my watch, and there's no way i can check with the service center. Even the estimated date was way off.

I didn't have the striking hand problem that you have though.

thus you dont have this problem with your striking 10th as pointed by the red arrow?

 

[carleon8]

thus you dont have this problem with your striking 10th as pointed by the red arrow?

Mine is the Synopsis model. My second hand is in the open heart, so I don’t have this problem. You can try bringing yours to the boutique and get them to evaluate for you. Or at least, you can compare with those on display.

 

[patryn33]

there are tons of ongoing debate over the Spring Drive.
i was in the same dilemma some time ago as to get or not get the SD

the SD has all the parts of a mechanical watch needed to creates, stores power, yet the time keeping part is a Tri-synchro referring to a Quartz crystal.

a mechanical watch time keeping part is done by balance wheel and escapement

depends on the perspective one look from, SD can be consider as a Quartz using Mechanical movement for power or a Mechanical movement using a Quartz for time keeping.

in the end i concluded myself that SD is a Quartz that makes use of Mechanical movements for power.

a watch is to present and keep time thus if the SD uses a Quartz for time keeping instead of mechanical parts such as Balance Wheel and Escapement i will rather get a Casio G-Shock.

Ppl asking if it’s a good technology or reliability and u go to answer this? On debate if it’s mechanical or quartz? and preference?

@ Kyo_kusanagi86
Not hard to find info online. Reliability bad product would have discontinued
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/history-seiko-spring-drive-movement/

 

[patryn33]

Anyone heard of or has a Gorilla brand watch? Any comments on this brand?

Swiss brand with a miyota movement? Over usd$1k expensive for a citizen movement. I hope u getting a deal
https://www.gorillawatches.ch/product/bandit/

 

[cichlid]

Orient Star dressy piece

 

[UnRiVJuNo]

may I know what is the model of this watch?

 

[rboyboy]

Swiss brand with a miyota movement? Over usd$1k expensive for a citizen movement. I hope u getting a deal
https://www.gorillawatches.ch/product/bandit/

Cant believe there are some models (Drift) which are over 4k! lol then again I rather get a tudor for that pricing

 

[paul02]

I just got a Skyflake, and I love the sweeping hands achieved by Spring Drive, on top of the other stuff on the watch. But that's my own preference.

See picture please.

 

[Deathgod]

I just got a Skyflake, and I love the sweeping hands achieved by Spring Drive, on top of the other stuff on the watch. But that's my own preference.

nothing against SD.
i too likes the Snowflake dial and SD sweeping hand

just that im quite concerns with how long before GS came up with another better innovation and put more focus on that.
look what happens to Kinetic nowadays?

however, pure mechanical movements such as calibre 321 -> 861 -> 1861, El Primero, Heuer 02 have been around for decades
even my old vintage Seiko Turtle JPM 6306-7001 has been running so fine after more than 30+ years

 

[Deathgod]

Ppl asking if it’s a good technology or reliability and u go to answer this? On debate if it’s mechanical or quartz? and preference?

@ Kyo_kusanagi86
Not hard to find info online. Reliability bad product would have discontinued
https://www.ablogtowatch.com/history-seiko-spring-drive-movement/

well, understanding what really ticks inside the watch can let individuals make their own decisions and judgement.

SD has only been around for not very long while there are mechanical calibre that has been up into space or went under deep sea of 4000m+ below

 

[pwillie]

there are tons of ongoing debate over the Spring Drive.
i was in the same dilemma some time ago as to get or not get the SD

the SD has all the parts of a mechanical watch needed to creates, stores power, yet the time keeping part is a Tri-synchro referring to a Quartz crystal.

a mechanical watch time keeping part is done by balance wheel and escapement

depends on the perspective one look from, SD can be consider as a Quartz using Mechanical movement for power or a Mechanical movement using a Quartz for time keeping.

in the end i concluded myself that SD is a Quartz that makes use of Mechanical movements for power.

a watch is to present and keep time thus if the SD uses a Quartz for time keeping instead of mechanical parts such as Balance Wheel and Escapement i will rather get a Casio G-Shock.

If SD == Quartz
then El primero == miyota 9015?
why pay for an expensive EP mvmt when a miyota uses the same concept of Balance wheel and escapement?

 

[Deathgod]

If SD == Quartz
then El primero == miyota 9015?
why pay for an expensive EP mvmt when a miyota uses the same concept of Balance wheel and escapement?

to quote

The new 6Rxx movement from Seiko is quite comparable to ETA’s 2824 in terms of reliability and features. Even the Miyota 9015, though with a noisier rotor, offers an efficient alternative. Swiss movements, though, have better power reserve than Japanese movements and require less winding. To sum up, Swiss movements are still slightly more robust and efficient. This being said, with Swatch limiting the supply of ETA movements to outside of the group brands, the popularity of Seiko and Miyota movements will certainly be on the rise.

I’m just gravitating towards the Swiss. They have the history plus some beautiful craftsmanship there. Also many innovation in horology originated from there.

But in terms of value for money, Japan win hands down.

in any case, i have no interest to start or bring the debates here over SD being Quartz or Mechanical from other forums

i have wrote clearly my opinions about SD are purely my personal opinion.

SD is rather like a psychology inkblot picture, one can see it as a Mechanical with an improve time keeping method or a Quartz with a mechanical movement for power.

Swiss calibre 321 when to the moon
Japan Seiko 8L35 dived into the deep sea with a record of 4000m+
its up to other forumers to decide themselves

 

[carleon8]

See picture please.

paiseh, my camera doesn't do justice to the watch.


Edit: sorry, can't seem to attach images here

 

[carleon8]

nothing against SD.
i too likes the Snowflake dial and SD sweeping hand

just that im quite concerns with how long before GS came up with another better innovation and put more focus on that.
look what happens to Kinetic nowadays?

however, pure mechanical movements such as calibre 321 -> 861 -> 1861, El Primero, Heuer 02 have been around for decades
even my old vintage Seiko Turtle JPM 6306-7001 has been running so fine after more than 30+ years

it's a personal preference.

I like both history and innovation, hence the Zenith and GS.

It's all down to individual taste.