The Watch Thread - Part 7

[tremor]

Assuming a typical definition of cheap, in-house don't come cheap unless it's something like Seiko. Why not get the micro branda sporting an eta movement? Oris is known for their dive watches. Almost wanted to get one. Seiko Tuna, Marine master, monster etc look like good choices to me.

Sorry should have given my budget. Think max I wanna spend is $7k

 

[Donten]

Sorry should have given my budget. Think max I wanna spend is $7k

if you are not brand conscious. here is a inhouse for you.

SBDB009

 

[patryn33]

Agree it is a good brand. But do have some reservations on it.

If u r a flipper, then it is not suitable since the resale market demand is pretty low. Maintenance cost wise, i feel it will also be higher due to the higher frequency of the movement. Higher frequency will mean more wear and tear and thus more frequent servicing.

I think probably bro who have quite a few watches already will go for zenith. For first timer, i think it may not be that attractive partly due to the lower brand recognition by non watch enthusiast.

More free servicing is like a old wives tale. Read below.
Lower brand recognition is impt for first timer? Get a watch for others? Need to get a life.

http://forums.watchuseek.com/f27/el-primero-maintenance-interval-466514.html#/forumsite/20758/topics/466514

 

[patryn33]

does anyone know what is the best discount for a zenith? any recommended SA? i am looking to get a big date special.

Grey ok?
If so try
Collectorstime and ashford

 

[Jeremy1]

Grey lower price better.....................

 

[a562140]

Agree it is a good brand. But do have some reservations on it.

If u r a flipper, then it is not suitable since the resale market demand is pretty low. Maintenance cost wise, i feel it will also be higher due to the higher frequency of the movement. Higher frequency will mean more wear and tear and thus more frequent servicing.

I think probably bro who have quite a few watches already will go for zenith. For first timer, i think it may not be that attractive partly due to the lower brand recognition by non watch enthusiast.

it really depends on how much resale value plays a part in one's decision making process. some will find appreciation in the watch most and forgo value. others will put value first, then forgo the design/features.

I used to recommend to all first timers a rollie or a speedy blindly. But I see now that it was not really good advice.

Now I say recommend to buy watch that you truly appreciate and can afford, with the intention to keep it forever.

After decades you will look back and that first hard earned hard thought watch will remind you about the time and how you bought that watch.

if you bought a watch that you can afford, there won't be any regrets (since all luxuries lose money anyway), but a lot of sentimental value for a particular time in your life.

maybe its just me, there's financial worries anywhere, I'd like my hobby to be free from it.

that said, the best value in luxury items is in the used market. and i am shameless when it comes to buying pre-owned.

 

[Jeremy1]

I think it's quite safe buying a pre-owned one as luxury watches are usually well taken care by the owner.

 

[sk0065]

can try grey dealer,less then 10k for sub

What's grey ar?

As in parallel import?

 

[techead]

2 Goldies hanging around ...

 

[Nakedtoes]

Rolex first time buyer I will intro exp 2 new. 7.8k can get bnib from grey else get Tudor sport watches. 3 to 4k can get already. Rolex quality but not rolex movement.

 

[rachdanon]

Just noticed something very inconsistent.

422 - 47mm big dial more space right. They take away the 9 to put the seconds dial.

321- 44mm smaller dial they leave the 9 and squeeze the seconds dial next to it.

392 - 42mm smaller still they did the right thing and took away the 9.

321 and 422 not logical eh?

Answer my own question. I think how Panerai decided whether to keep the 9 or not was not based on size but whether or not to keep with the traditional look.

6152-1s with Angelus 240 8 Day Power Reserve movements

A further improvement by Panerai was to install a 16 ligne, 15 jewels, 8 day power reserve caliber SF 240 Angelus movement to 6152-1s which also allowed a seconds counter complication to be added to the dial slightly to the right of 9 o'clock. Modern day Panerais replace the 9 with a larger seconds counter whereas on the Vintage dials the no. 9 is retained.

http://panerai.watchprosite.com/?show=forumpost&fi=717&ti=463631&s=0

 

[arctuates]

Just got back from Cie Bracelet Montre. Strap heaven. Highly recommend swinging by if you're a strap fanatic visiting Paris.

 

[Optrex]

it really depends on how much resale value plays a part in one's decision making process. some will find appreciation in the watch most and forgo value. others will put value first, then forgo the design/features.

I used to recommend to all first timers a rollie or a speedy blindly. But I see now that it was not really good advice.

Now I say recommend to buy watch that you truly appreciate and can afford, with the intention to keep it forever.

After decades you will look back and that first hard earned hard thought watch will remind you about the time and how you bought that watch.

if you bought a watch that you can afford, there won't be any regrets (since all luxuries lose money anyway), but a lot of sentimental value for a particular time in your life.

maybe its just me, there's financial worries anywhere, I'd like my hobby to be free from it.

that said, the best value in luxury items is in the used market. and i am shameless when it comes to buying pre-owned.

True. But nothing wrong with rollies and speedy for first timer because they are safer and a more conservative choice for first timers. And it may well be the only expensive watch that some bro may purchase. For the less usual brands, they can go ahead with them when they learn and can appreciate more about watches.

And true that one should buy a watch that he can afford because there may be a time when one will no longer spend this kinda of money on such luxuries when they have higher priorities in their lives for eg, children.

For preown, they are of good value in my opinion. But for the first purchase i always advise people to buy from a proper AD. Everyone deserves to have a shiny, sparkling brand new time piece along with good service from a SA for their very first big ticket timepiece purchase. After the first, they can go for preowned which is really good value for luxury items.

 

[Jeremy1]

What's grey ar?

As in parallel import?

Yup, they are 2nd hand dealers and got their new watches cheaper by sourcing from other countries.

 

[Nakedtoes]

Yup, they are 2nd hand dealers and got their new watches cheaper by sourcing from other countries.

Not all grey dealers deal in 2nd hand watch. ..

For example I know a grey dealer who supply new watches to grey dealer like Chuan watches. So get from which grey seller is the cheapest?

 

[patryn33]

If u know the grey supplier no need to grey dealers like Chen.
That dealer must be cheaper than Chen

 

[Optrex]

Not all grey dealers deal in 2nd hand watch. ..

For example I know a grey dealer who supply new watches to grey dealer like Chuan watches. So get from which grey seller is the cheapest?

Yes. I have noticed that these grey dealers with a shop front probably gets their stocks from the same grey supplier. I made an enquiry on a same model to several grey shops noticed that their stocks all come in at the same time. So i assume they are having the same grey supplier.

 

[Nakedtoes]

Yes if u know the source get from the first grey dealer. Usually I see price different of up to 1k. If u have friend at oversea Europe better still. Ask him get for u.

 

[Jeremy1]

Not all grey dealers deal in 2nd hand watch. ..

For example I know a grey dealer who supply new watches to grey dealer like Chuan watches. So get from which grey seller is the cheapest?

I think the cheapest should be from that seller that sell to the grey dealer..............................

 

[Nakedtoes]

Yes. I have noticed that these grey dealers with a shop front probably gets their stocks from the same grey supplier. I made an enquiry on a same model to several grey shops noticed that their stocks all come in at the same time. So i assume they are having the same grey supplier.

If u noticed some time this few shops all get the same bnib models together.