Thinning Hair problem

[Isopropyl]

nizoral is for fungal infection? It contain contents to treat fungal infection to the scalp, but there are just too many types of fungal infections.. This is a trial and error type.

no. it is not "trial and error type". although there are no direct proof that nizoral, is an anti-androgen, high-does oral ketoconazole(Nizoral active ingredient) is a known anti-androgen. so it make sense that Nizoral does have an mild anti-androgen effect.
there are a few study that show nizoral does have an effect on hair loss. almost all anti-drandruff shampoo in study does have an effect on hairloss you might say. but did you read before the infamous french study on nizoral? the subject tested was specifically choose for without seborrheic dermatitis and have MPB. one of the interesting thing in the result is the sebaceous glands of the subjects reduce in size by about 20%. also at least 3 other nizoral study that show it have an effect on sebum output.(do take note that H&S have no effect on sebum output) other than anti-androgen effect, pls explain to me the path nizoral take to reduce sebaceous glands size and sebum output.

H&S is for dandruffs? Dandruff do cause hair loss.

as mention in my previous post, MPB is cause by multiple factors. seborrheic dermatitis is one of the factor that make it worst so shampoo like H&S does help. a number of study have show that H&S increase anangen hair percentage and reduce hair fell. even the propecia FDA trial subjects need to use Neutrogena T/Gel as part of the test to reduce the effect of seborrheic dermatitis. so to get similar effect as the propecia trial, you might need an good anti-dandruff shampoo.

Avodart (dutasteride) should be reserved for those who do not respond to Propecia (finasteride). It is an off-label use, which means that the FDA does not authorize Avodart’s use for hair loss. Advodart have a relatively long half life at 5 week. There is stilll not enough studies for it, there are still some risks in taking this drug.

exactly! FDA have not approve Avodart for hairloss use. but does it work for hairloss? a very big yes. it show that not only products approved by FDA work for hairloss. that are many other products that have effect on the factors causing MPB. so any products with such properties is an potential treatment for MPB. of course we got to take into consideration of the side effect. anyway, Avodart have been use for enlarging prostate for 4years with relatives good record in safety.

 

[arianwen]

i am having this thining hair problem since quite some time ago. Since young, i had a high forehead, and my hair is very fine and not thick.

Another problem is that i have very oily scalp.

Tried some medication 2 yrs ago.. Propecia to be exact.. it did stimulate some hair growth on the forehead, but results min..

currently i am only using anti hair loss shampoo.. not under any medication

Any good combination to curb the hair loss, and most impt, stimulate hair growth?

thanks

 

[Wilb87]

i am having this thining hair problem since quite some time ago. Since young, i had a high forehead, and my hair is very fine and not thick.

Another problem is that i have very oily scalp.

Tried some medication 2 yrs ago.. Propecia to be exact.. it did stimulate some hair growth on the forehead, but results min..

currently i am only using anti hair loss shampoo.. not under any medication

Any good combination to curb the hair loss, and most impt, stimulate hair growth?

thanks

Minoxidil , Under brand Regaine.

Can get 2% from Pharmacy or 5% stronger more effective dosage prescribed by docs.

 

[arianwen]

Minoxidil , Under brand Regaine.

Can get 2% from Pharmacy or 5% stronger more effective dosage prescribed by docs.

i bought growell. shouldnt have much difference rite? Except for pricing

 

[mopiko_boy]

Been on proscar for 6mths, though there are results but not as satisfactory as i would like them to be.
So may be dropping proscar to start on avodart.. hope there will be better results.

Does the mypharmacy branch beside city square carry avodart?
If yes, does it costs more than RM200 per box?

Isopropyl, do i need to be on avodart for at least 4-6mths too to see results, just like proscar? pls advise.
Becos I was wondering shld i buy 1 or 2 boxes at one time as i seldom go jb..
My dosage will be low, as recommended by u, as in 1 tab every 2-3 days.

 

[mopiko_boy]

i bought growell. shouldnt have much difference rite? Except for pricing

even if u get generic minoxidil, there shldn't be much diff. the diff is the pricing..

 

[arianwen]

Been on proscar for 6mths, though there are results but not as satisfactory as i would like them to be.
So may be dropping proscar to start on avodart.. hope there will be better results.

Does the mypharmacy branch beside city square carry avodart?
If yes, does it costs more than RM200 per box?

Isopropyl, do i need to be on avodart for at least 4-6mths too to see results, just like proscar? pls advise.
Becos I was wondering shld i buy 1 or 2 boxes at one time as i seldom go jb..
My dosage will be low, as recommended by u, as in 1 tab every 2-3 days.

avodart? is it better than proscar and other medication?
whats the damage like

 

[Wilb87]

SIDE EFFECTS, WARNINGS, CONCERNS

1) Women or children should not use Avodart.

2) Women who are pregnant or may be pregnant should not handle Avodart for fear of potential risks to a male fetus.

3) No measurable bone mineral density level change was observed in test patients after a 52 weeks trial.

4) Men using Avodart should not donate blood until at least 6 months after the medication was last used for fear of possible administration of dutasteride tainted blood to pregnant female transfusion patient.

5) Men with liver problems should not use Avodart.

6) Patients' ejaculate volume might decrease as a result of the medication. A small number of the test patients experienced impotence and a reduction in libido.

7) No clinically significant change in hormone levels were observed in test patients.

8) No clinically significant changes in sperm concentration, sperm motility or sperm morphology although some subjects reported reduction in ejaculate volume.

9) A 2-year statistical summary showed that sexual adverse events such as impotence, decreased libido, and ejaculation disorder decreased with the duration of the treatment. Fewer incidences of adverse sexual events were reported over time.

OPTIMAL DOSAGE FOR HAIR LOSS
For the treatment of BPH, the official recommendation from GSK is to take 1 x 0.5mg capsule orally every day with or without food.

However, it appears that for treating hair loss, a daily dose of 2.5mg daily seems to generate the best results.

 

[Isopropyl]

arianwen:

no different between growell and rogaine. just get the cheapest you can find.

Avodart is much strong then proscar. 50times as effective than proscar. it cost RM190 in malaysia for 30tab.

but since you mention propecia work for you, go on it first. always try the weaker treatment first before moving on. don't keep jumping around.

for any treatment, give it 6months-1year to see if it work. if it work, you need about 1year-2years to see the best result. so stick with it. don't make the mistake of jumping around with treatment.

 

[Isopropyl]

yes. they carry. selling for RM190 per box.

but since you are seeing result from proscar in just 6months, i suggest you stick with it. you need full 12-24months to see the full result. if it work for you, pls don't jump to Avodart.

yes, like every treatment, give it at least 6months to decide whether does it work for you. but again, since proscar is working for you, stick with it. you can always get back to Avodart if you even need it.

 

[mopiko_boy]

yes. they carry. selling for RM190 per box.

but since you are seeing result from proscar in just 6months, i suggest you stick with it. you need full 12-24months to see the full result. if it work for you, pls don't jump to Avodart.

yes, like every treatment, give it at least 6months to decide whether does it work for you. but again, since proscar is working for you, stick with it. you can always get back to Avodart if you even need it.

alrite then, i guess i'm too eager to see more results..
will give it another 6mths then. thanx

 

[jimbanggang]

why not try Biolyn? it's a local product invented by a local professor....

alrite then, i guess i'm too eager to see more results..
will give it another 6mths then. thanx

 

[Isopropyl]

mopiko_boy:

if you really want to start Avodart by then, i let you have more detail on it.


jimbanggang:

because it does not work.

 

[mopiko_boy]

ok. thanx

another qn. wat shampoo is recommended for the days when not on nizoral? HnS or others?

 

[Wilb87]

Biolyn.. haha another "miracle hair-growth" product. Come on, there are just too many evil and greedy people outside trying to make use of hair loss guys to purchase their products. Hair is one of the most important thing to a man.

 

[arianwen]

arianwen:

no different between growell and rogaine. just get the cheapest you can find.

Avodart is much strong then proscar. 50times as effective than proscar. it cost RM190 in malaysia for 30tab.

but since you mention propecia work for you, go on it first. always try the weaker treatment first before moving on. don't keep jumping around.

for any treatment, give it 6months-1year to see if it work. if it work, you need about 1year-2years to see the best result. so stick with it. don't make the mistake of jumping around with treatment.

ic.. my "results" is just many strands of baby hair on my hairline.. and most died as baby hair too.. haha.. i think might try proscar since it is much cheaper..

nizoral is a must? so u guys suggesting proscar, rogaine and nizoral for the best effect?

wah xiong.. need ard 100 per mth at least..

 

[Wilb87]

100$ or your hair. Money can still earn back.

Minoxidil hair growth are known to be finer. Guess you are too impatient, a little hair growth is better than nothing. I would suggest you to go to Propecia or Proscar first, if you are not suitable, then jump on to Avodart.

Meanwhile you can try Toppik, which is a "Spray" where you shake it and apply it to your thinning area and it covers it very well, like real hair. It will goes off when in contact with shampoo. It is a good thing to use when you are taking Propecia, Proscar, Minxodil or Avodart. When your thinning area gets better, you can choose not to use it anymore.

 

[Wilb87]

For my case, i am on Propecia and shampoo wise i just use a normal shampoo and at times a clear scalp cleanser shampoo which get rids of dandruff and those dirty stuffs. I am on propecia instead of proscar because i am quite a lazy person to cut those tabs, and propecia look tasty as orange tabs instead of ugly blue big big tabs

A good diet is also important, i used to have a bad diet in the past. I took a lot of supplements to build up my body for canoeing and i ignored an important food... that is fruit. Fruits are essential together with fatty acid from sources like Tuna and salmon. Deficiency from important vitamins or nutrients can kick start your hair loss or even accelearted hair loss. Excercise is also an important element too . Maintain a healthy lifestyle, it not only helps against hair loss but other illness.

If you are young, youa re better taking Proscar/Propecia compared to Minoxidil as the effects are better, high chances of reversing hair loss. Minoxidil only grows hair more than hair lost, it does not really treat the problem as i said.

 

[arianwen]

toppik? where can i buy it and what is the damage?

i think prob i will try proscar as it is much cheaper.. any directions to get it frm malaysia?
is it near city square? tks in advance

Btw i read somewhere that proscar may produce genital abnormalities in the male foetus, and should nv be in contact with woman.. so serious?

 

[Wilb87]

Are you a female? Female cant take or comes in contact with Propecia, Proscar and Avodart. It is okay to have sexual intercourse while taking propecia. However to play safe, if you would like to have a baby, you may stop your regime for like 2 days? Although no bad effects were shown and no bad results. It is not that bad as you think.. Just keep those tablets away from females.