Thread all abt ROLEX - Part 2

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Really? I am also looking for 124270. Have a prior purchase with emperor watch for a datejust back in 2020. And i am in their “list” for the explorer since the 39mm version is still around.

how do u actually ask for bundle deal? Just go in and ask upfront in any ad?

Just be direct and upfront say that you want to get and explorer 1 and willing to make a side purchase to reach your goal.

 

[Damienic]

Really? I am also looking for 124270. Have a prior purchase with emperor watch for a datejust back in 2020. And i am in their “list” for the explorer since the 39mm version is still around.

how do u actually ask for bundle deal? Just go in and ask upfront in any ad?

Just ask. Pop the question of how you can get an allocation of the 124270 and that you are ready to support with a purchase of another watch to get that allocation and they will tell you what is required. Be prepared that the bundle requirements is not always consistent by the way across different sales person even within the same AD. Some can help with a smaller purchase while some may need you to spend a bit more. If you do not ask, they will not tell you. They cannot assume that you are interested to build profile for a sports model if you do not ask upfront.

 

[fatalerror11]

Just ask. Pop the question of how you can get an allocation of the 124270 and that you are ready to support with a purchase of another watch to get that allocation and they will tell you what is required. Be prepared that the bundle requirements is not always consistent by the way across different sales person even within the same AD. Some can help with a smaller purchase while some may need you to spend a bit more. If you do not ask, they will not tell you. They cannot assume that you are interested to build profile for a sports model if you do not ask upfront.

Thanks this is insightful! So what kind of bundling deal i can be expecting for a so call not so sought after sports model (explorer 1)?
Definitely non-rolex and non-tudor brand watches i suppose? What is the quantum i should be expecting for this side watch given the premium in the grey market for explorer 1 is not as high as other sports model

 

[TTT888]

Is it true that there is a higher chance of being allocated a sports model from THG than compared to say smaller ADs such as KKH? Given that THG is much bigger, they would have higher allocation from Rolex?

 

[Damienic]

Thanks this is insightful! So what kind of bundling deal i can be expecting for a so call not so sought after sports model (explorer 1)?
Definitely non-rolex and non-tudor brand watches i suppose? What is the quantum i should be expecting for this side watch given the premium in the grey market for explorer 1 is not as high as other sports model

it really depends on which AD and even which sales person within that AD. It is possible to bundle with certain models of Rolex Datejust, Lady Datejust (the TT ones higher chance) and for Tudor also possible but only the classic models of Tudor. i can’t exactly say only non Rolex and non Tudor is possible for bundle, but like I say it depends on AD and sales person in that AD, so better you check with him or her. Just ask, it is not a normal practice for them to take initiative to offer you a bundle if you don’t ask.

 

[Damienic]

Is it true that there is a higher chance of being allocated a sports model from THG than compared to say smaller ADs such as KKH? Given that THG is much bigger, they would have higher allocation from Rolex?

THG of course as a multi boutique AD receives more stock than the likes of KHH from Rolex. But that stock is spread among 8 THG outlets selling Rolexes whereas KHH has just one outlet. So does it make it easier to get a Rolex allocation from THG than KHH? Not necessarily so. When it comes to profile building with an AD like THG, one should stick to the same SA and the same THG outlet, so essentially this means you are vying to get allocation based on what that particular outlet you are building profile with gets in terms of stock allocation each month. Sometime it may be possible for your sales person to request a particular Rolex sports piece which you are aiming from another THG outlet to bring in to his/her outlet for you but they usually do this only on an exception basis for customers of a certain status level with THG.
The most obvious disadvantage I can see of profile building at smaller AD like KHH is that they mainly only have Tudor classics for you to bundle, not much of other choices. At least at THG, you have much more choices outside of Rolex and Tudor. But this to me has got less relation to whether is it easier to get an allocation from THG or KHH.

 

[TTT888]

THG of course as a multi boutique AD receives more stock than the likes of KHH from Rolex. But that stock is spread among 8 THG outlets selling Rolexes whereas KHH has just one outlet. So does it make it easier to get a Rolex allocation from THG than KHH? Not necessarily so. When it comes to profile building with an AD like THG, one should stick to the same SA and the same THG outlet, so essentially this means you are vying to get allocation based on what that particular outlet you are building profile with gets in terms of stock allocation each month. Sometime it may be possible for your sales person to request a particular Rolex sports piece which you are aiming from another THG outlet to bring in to his/her outlet for you but they usually do this only on an exception basis for customers of a certain status level with THG.
The most obvious disadvantage I can see of profile building at smaller AD like KHH is that they mainly only have Tudor classics for you to bundle, not much of other choices. At least at THG, you have much more choices outside of Rolex and Tudor. But this to me has got less relation to whether is it easier to get an allocation from THG or KHH.

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, much appreciated.

One more question - For KKH, is it possible to bundle with Rolex DJ models like lady-DJ 28mm with diamonds and 36mm DJ for a sub or GMT master II?

 

[Damienic]

Thanks for the comprehensive reply, much appreciated.

One more question - For KKH, is it possible to bundle with Rolex DJ models like lady-DJ 28mm with diamonds and 36mm DJ for a sub or GMT master II?

It’s difficult to me to conclude whether it is possible for KHH to offer you bundle with Rolex DJ Diamonds or 36mm DJ for a Rolex sports model. Situation can change and what I do know previously Is that they have been pushing for customers to bundle with a number of Tudor classic models to get allocation for Rolex sports models. I personally have visited them once 2 years ago to get a feel (even though I’m already with mult-brand AD by then) and the sales person told me then that building profile with them using Tudor classic models have a higher chance of Rolex allocation. Its been like this for a while if I not mistaken, but then situation do change from time to time, so it’s better for you to check with them what is the latest. What I heard in the industry lately is that Rolex have told their ADs that profile building for their sports models cannot entirely be only with non Rolex models, it has to include at least 1-2 pieces of Rolex classic models in between. So with such situations, it might be possible that strategies might have changed.
Like I say, best to have a chat with the ADs and then see what works better for you.

 

[TTT888]

It’s difficult to me to conclude whether it is possible for KHH to offer you bundle with Rolex DJ Diamonds or 36mm DJ for a Rolex sports model. Situation can change and what I do know previously Is that they have been pushing for customers to bundle with a number of Tudor classic models to get allocation for Rolex sports models. I personally have visited them once 2 years ago to get a feel (even though I’m already with mult-brand AD by then) and the sales person told me then that building profile with them using Tudor classic models have a higher chance of Rolex allocation. Its been like this for a while if I not mistaken, but then situation do change from time to time, so it’s better for you to check with them what is the latest. What I heard in the industry lately is that Rolex have told their ADs that profile building for their sports models cannot entirely be only with non Rolex models, it has to include at least 1-2 pieces of Rolex classic models in between. So with such situations, it might be possible that strategies might have changed.
Like I say, best to have a chat with the ADs and then see what works better for you.

Thanks a lot once again!

 

[metamofia89]

Hi guys. What are the things to lookout for when purchasing a prepared/brand new watches from grey dealers like Brighton’s, Chuan and even Watch Exchange?

What are the “right” questions to ask that’s not condescending in regards to the authenticity and history of the watch like servicing history etc (for preowned watches)?

 

[chows99]

I would ask how do they authenticate their watches in addition to matching of serial number on card vs serial number on the rehaut.

Do be careful as there's some rumours that some grey dealers just take in and sell without checking the authenticity

 

[Nitron]

Hi guys. What are the things to lookout for when purchasing a prepared/brand new watches from grey dealers like Brighton’s, Chuan and even Watch Exchange?

What are the “right” questions to ask that’s not condescending in regards to the authenticity and history of the watch like servicing history etc (for preowned watches)?

Just ask them nicely, say that you're new and genuinely concerned about authenticity. A good grey dealer would gladly show you how they authenticate. Building trust and relationships are also part of their job. If any grey dealer takes offense, then just walk away.

I'm not sure how are they going to prove to you (as I've never bought from grey, I go carousell) other than the serial number, and maybe show you a 10x scope of the Rolex logo on the glass. There are many other small nuggets to look out for (google it), but the best is if they will take out the movement to show you the inside of the watch because that's the easiest to spot with an untrained eye.

Also, check thoroughly for scratches/ dings, etc, and make sure you get what you pay for.

Other than that, your best bet is to trust the authenticity and only buy from really reputable shops. If you're feeling paranoid, then make sure your purchase receipt, etc. matches the watch you bought, and you can pay a third-party authenticator to help you double-check.

Somehow going the carousell route can be more assuring as you both will let the uncle inspect fully on the spot before you pay the fella.

 

[Billyboo]

walk in to THR can waitlist DJ or need purchase history?

 

[Superspeso]

think u meant THG. those high in demand DJ most likely need purchase history

 

[jumpylion]

Hi peeps, seeking advice here~

Is it possible to get DJ 36 (steel and yellow gold, jubilee, fluted & Champagne-colour set with diamonds) from THG with no purchase history? I have already placed my name in their "interest list" in Ion boutique since June but would like to manage my expectation on whether it is even possible to get this allocation by end of year.

Also, since Ion boutique do not hold other watches like Tudor/Hublot, is it then more likely to be offered bundles with other rolex instead? Was hoping to get this DJ so that I can try getting a sub-date in future...

 

[Billyboo]

think u meant THG. those high in demand DJ most likely need purchase history

sorry meant to say THG, thank you!

 

[spurman]

Hi peeps, seeking advice here~

Is it possible to get DJ 36 (steel and yellow gold, jubilee, fluted & Champagne-colour set with diamonds) from THG with no purchase history? I have already placed my name in their "interest list" in Ion boutique since June but would like to manage my expectation on whether it is even possible to get this allocation by end of year.

Also, since Ion boutique do not hold other watches like Tudor/Hublot, is it then more likely to be offered bundles with other rolex instead? Was hoping to get this DJ so that I can try getting a sub-date in future...

2 tone no need bundle. Prob need wait. Coz not always have the exact config.

U may even ask for a bundle with a simple op black or silver or explorer 1 or milgauss

 

[Damienic]

walk in to THR can waitlist DJ or need purchase history?

No need purchase history for most but not all TT DJ model. Most of the SS DJ need purchase history.

 

[Damienic]

Hi peeps, seeking advice here~

Is it possible to get DJ 36 (steel and yellow gold, jubilee, fluted & Champagne-colour set with diamonds) from THG with no purchase history? I have already placed my name in their "interest list" in Ion boutique since June but would like to manage my expectation on whether it is even possible to get this allocation by end of year.

Also, since Ion boutique do not hold other watches like Tudor/Hublot, is it then more likely to be offered bundles with other rolex instead? Was hoping to get this DJ so that I can try getting a sub-date in future...

On your question of ION boutique not holding other brands, it maybe possible for your ION SA to bring in other non Rolex brands from other THG boutiques on indent basis for you if you made such a request for profile building / bundle purpose.

 

[jumpylion]

On your question of ION boutique not holding other brands, it maybe possible for your ION SA to bring in other non Rolex brands from other THG boutiques on indent basis for you if you made such a request for profile building / bundle purpose.

Thanks, hopefully the DJ i'm looking for will not require me to get other brands.