Veronica Shim Wai Han, former SQ stewardess said "at least two investors had died directly or indirectly because of pressure from this case"

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moonlighter_sg

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1 person aged 37 yo can scam so many experienced professional investors?
I think he is just a scapegoat to take all the charges. Should lock up the whole group of con artists
 
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I would think this woman is the face and PR of the company
And probably she's the one pulling clients in

There's other co founder or founders and they have other domain "experts" in certain fields like art

So it's these experts who will answer the queries posed By investors
 
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this itself is already a big red flag:

“he claimed that his firms could buy nickel from an Australian mine at a discount and sell the metal for a sizeable profit.”

when anyone makes such a claim, the first question on your mind would be why the mine would want sell to you at a discount and let you make a sizeable profit out of it? and if it’s true, there certainly would be other traders knocking on the door with higher offers.

you don’t even need a qualification to know to ask such simple questions.
If the deal is so good, Elon Musk or Warren Buffett already get their hands on those nickels liao. Why would the Australian mine wait for an unknown fat Singaporean guy to buy ?

To be smart rich, always watch what the rich are actually doing. They are doing something right, that's why they can be rich.
 

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I would think this woman is the face and PR of the company
And probably she's the one pulling clients in

There's other co founder or founders and they have other domain "experts" in certain fields like art

So it's these experts who will answer the queries posted By investors
Once the prosecutor can sniff out any co-relations between this gal and scammer, they will put it on her.
 

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Haha
So must wear safari suit and that hat and get 20 porters to trek through African or Mayan jungles to see.that physical mine is it
if u need to trek through a jungle then u know the mine is a fairy tale aldry

a high producing mine will have its own roads liao

but need to be prepared to travel for 4-5 hrs kind by car
 

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Once the prosecutor can sniff out any co-relations between this gal and scammer, they will put it on her.
Think already targeting the woman's company and her?
Don't know

Anyway I'm sure the investors are eyeing them.as well
Clearly the clear cut limb for suing is professional negligence or failed duty of care towards their clients
See what the courts say about these people's actual duty
Better have insurance.
 

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if u need to trek through a jungle then u know the mine is a fairy tale aldry

a high producing mine will have its own roads liao

but need to be prepared to travel for 4-5 hrs kind by car
Nah
Some of these countries are really , to.put.it bluntly shiteholes

Imagine in a shite country they actually discovered dinosaur bones and the country is fine with people taking it out for a fee

Unless a helicopter can drop you there it's climb baby climb
 

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If the deal is so good, Elon Musk or Warren Buffett already get their hands on those nickels liao. Why would the Australian mine wait for an unknown fat Singaporean guy to buy ?

To be smart rich, always watch what the rich are actually doing. They are doing something right, that's why they can be rich.

Ya also about street smart and actual experience of starting/running a business.

Like the canto phrase, "Where got big fat toad jump around on street for you to catch?"

If the deal is so good, Gina Rinehart or Aussie commodity traders will already be on it.
 

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If the deal is so good, Elon Musk or Warren Buffett already get their hands on those nickels liao. Why would the Australian mine wait for an unknown fat Singaporean guy to buy ?

To be smart rich, always watch what the rich are actually doing. They are doing something right, that's why they can be rich.
If I wan to invest some serious money, I will put it in where Warren or Elon are putting theirs. Will never go wrong. I will stay clear from whatever they are not investing.
 

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2 investors in Ng Yu Zhi’s Ponzi scheme ‘died because of pressure from case’: Private banker​


SINGAPORE – Veronica Shim Wai Han, a former Singapore Airlines flight stewardess-turned-private banker of almost 20 years’ standing, broke down in court on Nov 28 as she testified that at least two investors in businessman Ng Yu Zhi’s $1.5 billion nickel trading scam “had died directly or indirectly because of pressure from this case”.

Prosecutors alleged that Ng’s Ponzi scheme, which promised attractive profits from nickel trading was “pure fiction” that duped 947 investors of almost $1.5 billion, of which more than $481 million was channelled to Ng’s personal bank accounts and used to finance his lavish lifestyle.

The first prosecution witness to take the stand, Shim, the former chief executive of fund manager Envysion Wealth Management (EWM), and her company are named as victims in two cheating charges against Ng, the alleged mastermind of the scam.

Ng, 37, is contesting 42 charges of fraudulent trading, cheating, forgery, criminal breach of trust and money laundering, with another 63 charges stood down. The prosecution plans to call on evidence from 58 witnesses over the more than 50 days that have been set aside for the High Court trial.

EWM was allegedly cheated into delivering $47.3 million to Envy Global Trading (EGT) on at least 17 occasions between September 2020 and January 2021. Shim herself was allegedly cheated into delivering $955,115.08 to EGT on at least four occasions between November 2020 and January 2021.

On Day 3 of the criminal trial, Shim testified: “For all the victims of this case, there is still a lot of negative impact. From the day we were informed that this could be a scam, from disbelief to having to accept the pain that we could be victims of this scam, and then guilt, and... we have people coming to us saying we are stupid, and the embarrassment also.


“The worst is, we are professionals,” she added, breaking down on the stand and taking a sip of water to calm herself.

“This case involved too many reputable people. These are not stupid people, and no one deserved to be scammed. There were more than 1,000 investors involved... According to my knowledge, at least two investors had died directly or indirectly because of pressure from this case.”

The other alleged victims included Temasek International general counsel Pek Siok Lan, former Law Society president Thio Shen Yi and Vickers Venture Partners founder Finian Tan, known for spotting the potential in search giant Baidu back in 2000, when it was just a small Chinese start-up. Ms Pek was allegedly cheated of $5.5 million, Mr Thio of more than $500,000, and Mr Tan of US$19.2 million (S$25.8 million).

As Shim testified how she and the others felt as victims, Ng, the heavy-set, bespectacled Singaporean now in remand, avoided making eye contact with those in the courtroom.


“We have done whatever we could as professional fund managers,” she said. “Everyone out there, please be reminded it can happen to anyone of you, whether or not you are a professional. There were experts in commodities and financial industries, and we were fooled because we believed in a Singaporean who was well-educated, brought up in Singapore, and was licensed by MAS (Monetary Authority of Singapore).

“We did whatever we could to follow compliance, and we thought we could protect ourselves. But when we appear in the news as victims, we faced unnecessary scrutiny from the public, the authorities.

“I had 30 staff (members) in Envysion, and all 30 lost their jobs overnight. But we are still dealing with (upset investors) shouting, blaming and everything. We tried our best to cooperate with the authorities... Even with all this, me and my two directors could be sitting behind that glass panel (in the prisoner’s dock) in future because we did what we thought was right.”

Shim and former EWN directors Doo Chun Ki and Tan Kay Siong have been charged with various offences under the Securities and Futures Act and the Securities and Futures (Licensing and Conduct of Business) Regulations.

EWN was manager of the Envysion Global Investments VCC, which established the Envysion Commodity Strategy Fund. The fund was invested in Ng’s company EGT.

The charges are for failing to put in place an appropriate risk management framework for the management of funds and failing to mitigate conflicts of interest related to loans and referral fees received by the company and its CEO through the fund.

Shim is also accused of breaching the Official Secrets Act by forwarding e-mail correspondence between MAS and EWN to Ng.

“Me and the two directors cannot even get a job till today. I am lucky I have family support, but I’m not sure about the other two. And we also have to pay (legal fees) for our own defence. I have built up 20 years of career experience and we had clean records in the financial industry... But we didn’t expect people to come up with forged documents. We did our due diligence in good faith... This incident has destroyed a lot of people’s lives and livelihoods, and a lot of life savings were at stake,” Shim said.

When asked by Deputy Public Prosecutor Gordon Oh if she recovered any of her investment, Shim said: “My total (exposure), including EWN’s (exposure), is $16 million... We have recovered nothing because it is all in the hands of the liquidators of Envy Group.”

Asked what has happened to the investment, Shim said: “Why don’t you ask Mr Ng? We got nothing at maturity.”

It was previously reported that Ng paid more than $20 million for four properties, and spent close to $5 million on works of art. He also bought expensive jewellery and cars, including a Pagani Huayra Coupe, Porsche 911 GT3, Rolls-Royce Phantom, a Lamborghini Aventador SV J and an Aston Martin Rapide.

Ng was declared bankrupt on Dec 22, 2022, after he and three others were sued by the liquidators of the Envy companies.

Prosecutors allege that the 947 investors were duped into investing in Ng’s companies, Envy Asset Management and EGT, after he claimed that his firms could buy nickel from an Australian mine at a discount and sell the metal for a sizeable profit.

To spin a convincing tale, he forged documents and made false representations himself or through sales representatives of the Envy companies, Mr Oh said.

In reality, no nickel was bought or sold by the Envy companies. The companies paid earlier investors with the funds put in by other investors.

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She thinks she's a professional. obviously she thinks too highly of herself.
 

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oh so it’s their sub fund. no wonder the same Envy name. that made it look even more legit and fooled her clients who were taken in by the glamour into believing she had done the proper amount of scrutiny and diligence. ultimately it’s greed and hunger for quick success blinding people into not seeing what clearly was an unbelievable claim that one can buy a commodity at a discount and make extraordinary returns out of it on an ongoing basis.

cant blame her or her shop.
when it comes to alternative investment, only the UHNW can play, normal EDMW no touch one.
UHNW is 30mil usd liquidity provider at least. losing this small sum is pain but not a killer.

so as we read about downfalls like this, we need to remind ourselves that all investment comes with risk. including buying yourself a property at ridiculous price by jumping on the bandwagon and following the herd. not all sheep are born the same. some have liquidity, some are me-too clowns. do not buy property or stocks because you see your peers making paper gains and Hao Lian to you.
 

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Nah
Some of these countries are really , to.put.it bluntly shiteholes

Imagine in a shite country they actually discovered dinosaur bones and the country is fine with people taking it out for a fee

Unless a helicopter can drop you there it's climb baby climb
im not sure you know what you're talking about

Nickle mines are huge, without roads how you want to truck the ore to the river or barge to the port stockpiles
below is a shitty indo mine, the aussie mines are even bigger and better developed

simi climb jungle or helicopter access only sia

this is bulk commodities trading, not blood diamonds or gemstone trade (which yes is more kampung)

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cant blame her or her shop.
when it comes to alternative investment, only the UHNW can play, normal EDMW no touch one.
UHNW is 30mil usd liquidity provider at least. losing this small sum is pain but not a killer.

so as we read about downfalls like this, we need to remind ourselves that all investment comes with risk. including buying yourself a property at ridiculous price by jumping on the bandwagon and following the herd. not all sheep are born the same. some have liquidity, some are me-too clowns. do not buy property or stocks because you see your peers making paper gains and Hao Lian to you.
so what KJ says could be correct. if PSL can have US$30m liquid assets, then HC $100m salary may not be far off.
 

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She is running a multi-manager fund structure in investment circle.
usually a few master funds overarching structure that runs various sub funds.
the Ng guy runs his Ponzi under one of the sub fund.
the funds earns her and her managers carry as profit for managing it and selling it.
there are many of these running with family offices money in the market.
its a cesspool. esp in the alternative investment side of things.
no matter what, when the 15 years bull runs ends, every one of these clowns will be licking their wounds.
why? unwinding is not an alternative, you have to suck it up and go through the whole show.
Actually i don’t know why MAS does not see it as a huge conflict of interest for a fund manager to recommend their clients to invest in a vehicle while collecting fees from the operators of that vehicle for recommending customers to it.
A wiser way to circumvent such moral hazards would be for customers to pay the fund managers based on a flat retainer plus share of profits.
 
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