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hi can anyone share their experience on vinyl flooring?

thinking of getting vinyl flooring for my 4rm flat however cannot make up my mind.

approached a few co and all are quite expensive compare to the contractor :(
evorich- vinyl from US
the floor gallery - ecoclick from korea
floorxpert - LURF from belgium
contractor - Lamett from US

can anyone share some insight with me please. from my understanding all click type vinyl seems to be water resist, slip resist and fire resist. i was told by my contractor that all vinyl are the same however my worry is already the VOC emission not sure if i can just go along with the Lamett that my contractor offered.

can anyone advise please? thanks!
 

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hi can anyone share their experience on vinyl flooring?

thinking of getting vinyl flooring for my 4rm flat however cannot make up my mind.

approached a few co and all are quite expensive compare to the contractor :(
evorich- vinyl from US
the floor gallery - ecoclick from korea
floorxpert - LURF from belgium
contractor - Lamett from US

can anyone share some insight with me please. from my understanding all click type vinyl seems to be water resist, slip resist and fire resist. i was told by my contractor that all vinyl are the same however my worry is already the VOC emission not sure if i can just go along with the Lamett that my contractor offered.

can anyone advise please? thanks!

Quality of vinyl flooring vary a lot from brand to brand. They are definitely not the same. If you do more research online then you would know that only Europe have tight controls on VOC etc from vinyl material. If you want the best quality, go for those that meet European standards or made in Europe.

I personally used LURF myself due to the following,

1. Made in Europe.
2. Wide choice of colours. 40 colours compared to 12 colours from evorich.
3. Detailed texture. Feel the material, I choose 2 colours which have saw cuts, it's that detailed in texture.
4. LURF come with a insulation layer installed beneath thus it help to reduce noise. None of the other brands does it.

But LURF should be the most expensive of the few brands you listed.
 

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Quality of vinyl flooring vary a lot from brand to brand. They are definitely not the same. If you do more research online then you would know that only Europe have tight controls on VOC etc from vinyl material. If you want the best quality, go for those that meet European standards or made in Europe.

I personally used LURF myself due to the following,

1. Made in Europe.
2. Wide choice of colours. 40 colours compared to 12 colours from evorich.
3. Detailed texture. Feel the material, I choose 2 colours which have saw cuts, it's that detailed in texture.
4. LURF come with a insulation layer installed beneath thus it help to reduce noise. None of the other brands does it.

But LURF should be the most expensive of the few brands you listed.

hi, for LURF.. how much per sqft roughly...
 

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hi, for LURF.. how much per sqft roughly...

My ID quote me around $6.5 psf inclusive of skirting. I am not sure whether you can get it cheaper from floor xpert themselves.

TS, how much psf is your contractor charging you for the Lamett?
 

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was quoted $5 psf for Lamett. but dunno about the attribute as its with the quotation.
meet Floorxpert soon. apparently they market their LURF as one of the lowest VOC emission flooring lol.

@qwertqwert yes it is waterproof. mop floor water spill is ok
 

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I'm using LURF too. Vaguely remember I saw evo packaging stating it's made in china instead and also their colour/design choices didn't appeal to me. Hence didn't go for them.
 

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My ID quote me around $6.5 psf inclusive of skirting. I am not sure whether you can get it cheaper from floor xpert themselves.

TS, how much psf is your contractor charging you for the Lamett?

i am quoted $6.75 psf for LURF Quicksteps. quite sad cannot bargain for better price QQ
 

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I was quoted $6.80 for Eco+ (Some Korean brand) and $6.30 (Brand not stated) from my 2 shortlisted IDs

Saw the Eco+ LVRF offered by a number of IDs

But since mine is a resale unit I am still leaning heavily on the hacking/tiling option though it's much more costly
I went to another ID's project which overlaid Vinyl on existing tiles and the floor felt uneven at certain areas so I'm a little ghosted on the overlay option

I also considered hacking, screening then lying Vinyl but apparently the cost would be pretty close to hacking/retiling

My main concern is on seepage of water between the vinyl strips.
Most of the IDs/Contractors claim that the click system ensures that the gaps are watertight but offer no assurance for water seepage between the gaps or under the vinyl layer after prolonged used
An ID even offered to show me a demo by pouring water between 2 pieces of vinyl clicked together but I'm not sure if the same degree of waterproofing would hold after years of wear and tear

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i am quoted $6.75 psf for LURF Quicksteps. quite sad cannot bargain for better price QQ

You went down to floor xpert to ask for quote yourself? Seem like going through ID can get a better price.
 

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I was quoted $6.80 for Eco+ (Some Korean brand) and $6.30 (Brand not stated) from my 2 shortlisted IDs

Saw the Eco+ LVRF offered by a number of IDs

But since mine is a resale unit I am still leaning heavily on the hacking/tiling option though it's much more costly
I went to another ID's project which overlaid Vinyl on existing tiles and the floor felt uneven at certain areas so I'm a little ghosted on the overlay option

I also considered hacking, screening then lying Vinyl but apparently the cost would be pretty close to hacking/retiling

My main concern is on seepage of water between the vinyl strips.
Most of the IDs/Contractors claim that the click system ensures that the gaps are watertight but offer no assurance for water seepage between the gaps or under the vinyl layer after prolonged used
An ID even offered to show me a demo by pouring water between 2 pieces of vinyl clicked together but I'm not sure if the same degree of waterproofing would hold after years of wear and tear

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Cement screed and good quality vinyl would be rather close to cost of cheap tiling already. You are right on that aspect.

I do not know why you are worry about water seepage through the gap. Tiles also possible to have water seeping through the gap and grouting over long term. Moreover dirt will accumulate inside the grouting which make it unsightly IMO. The first ID I met tell me don't do tiles, it's going to be ugly and difficult to maintain over long term even though he charge more for tiles and probably earn a bit more if commission is base on total reno amount.
 

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Cement screed and good quality vinyl would be rather close to cost of cheap tiling already. You are right on that aspect.

I do not know why you are worry about water seepage through the gap. Tiles also possible to have water seeping through the gap and grouting over long term. Moreover dirt will accumulate inside the grouting which make it unsightly IMO. The first ID I met tell me don't do tiles, it's going to be ugly and difficult to maintain over long term even though he charge more for tiles and probably earn a bit more if commission is base on total reno amount.
I may have been mislead but I came to the conclusion that seepage would be a problem when the IDs I spoke to would not rule out the possibility of moisture build up beneath the vinyl layer in the event of repeated spillage. They did however suggested that this wouldn't be an issue in traditional tiling as long as the tiling process is properly QC-ed

I am still impartial to the option of vinyl but if the costs were similar I would probably go for the tried and tested floor tile

I also have a slight concern on VOC emissions (planning for kid) though I do read that this has been largely mitigated in the current market offerings

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I may have been mislead but I came to the conclusion that seepage would be a problem when the IDs I spoke to would not rule out the possibility of moisture build up beneath the vinyl layer in the event of repeated spillage. They did however suggested that this wouldn't be an issue in traditional tiling as long as the tiling process is properly QC-ed

I am still impartial to the option of vinyl but if the costs were similar I would probably go for the tried and tested floor tile

I also have a slight concern on VOC emissions (planning for kid) though I do read that this has been largely mitigated in the current market offerings

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I have a baby coming along so the VOC portion is also what I am concerned about too, that's why I have done my research and know that Europeans have tight standard to control VOC for vinyl flooring. Another reason for me to choose vinyl flooring is the fact it absorb impact of falls so it's more kids friendly.

You can try to approach floorxpert for opinions on whether hacking and cement screeding is necessary for your current floor. I have seen some videos that they repair broken tiles simply by removing and cementing over it. So it's possible to just do a simple things layer of cement over existing tiles to ensure flatness without incurring high costs.
 

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Based on what I observed, there are vinyl out there that may warp over time. My friend used it for th bedrooms and he regretted it. 2 issues with it,
1) Warped vinyl flooring - the edges of the vinyl starts bend outwards, which causes it to pop out and may occasionally cause him to kick it which is quite painful. This problem only surfaced after a year or 2 if I recalled wrongly.
2) Some vinyl have rough textures. He found it very difficult to mop the floor, especially he chose the rough type to minimise slippery floor. Mop always rubbed on the rough floor causing dirt and even the fabric on the mop to get stuck.
 
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