VIVIFI

[tidus792]

Iphone so under capabilities shows SA+NSA. whereas my M1 line shows SA only

Can share some screenshots so other ST users know what to look for in the future? We're all eagerly awaiting SA.

If you have photos of the new 5G sim card even better.

 

[shawniiex]

Can share some screenshots so other ST users know what to look for in the future? We're all eagerly awaiting SA.

If you have photos of the new 5G sim card even better.

Lol I have the new 5g sim card. Why you want to see? It's just a normal sim card that says 5g on it nothing else

 

[A7997A]

Lol I have the new 5g sim card. Why you want to see? It's just a normal sim card that says 5g on it nothing else

I guess he wants to see the 5G logo on the sim card

The more useful information is the 5G SA / NSA connection status.

 

[AMD_Duron]

Ok, means the sim & phone is ready for both 5G SA & NSA.
But is the connection actually 5G SA ?

Asking as it seems that all 3 ST MVNO seems to imply that 5G+(5G SA) is not yet ready on their end and Zero1/Zym appears to be still giving out 4G sims for 5G plans.

I am not so worried. Still 5G on my phone and it’s showing up on the capabilities section as SA+NSA. I believe this is just something marketing to make sure all the MVNOs sing the same tune with their MNO.

 

[AMD_Duron]

Can share some screenshots so other ST users know what to look for in the future? We're all eagerly awaiting SA.

If you have photos of the new 5G sim card even better.

Alamak.. share which screenshot? The one showing SA+NSA? Are you on iPhone?

 

[Beefsteak]

The iphone setting is confusing. Being able to select and enable 5G standalone does not mean that you are using it.

 

[AMD_Duron]

The iphone setting is confusing. Being able to select and enable 5G standalone does not mean that you are using it.

Ok, then how do you know it on an iPhone that it is indeed connected to 5G SA?

From my iPhone, both M1 and Vivifi are connected on the n78 band, given that M1 is SA only, this can mean that Vivifi being on the same band should be the same, although earlier, ST is also using NSA on n78.

My earlier experience with Vivifi before I ported back in again, SA option on iPhone is greyed out, meaning no SA option that can be turned on. After the recent port in, SA option is available.

 

[AMD_Duron]

Ok, so I downloaded nperf app and test on all my lines.

ST priority - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Vivifi - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)
M1 - SA
CL - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Z1 - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)

 

[tidus792]

Ok, so I downloaded nperf app and test on all my lines.

ST priority - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Vivifi - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)
M1 - SA
CL - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Z1 - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)

Thanks. Was expecting these results (until launch of SA has been completed).

 

[A7997A]

Ok, so I downloaded nperf app and test on all my lines.

ST priority - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Vivifi - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)
M1 - SA
CL - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Z1 - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)

Thanks. That confirms my suspicion, Vivifi is issuing 5G sim cards but 5G SA is not yet operational, while Z1/Zym appears to be issuing 4G sim cards.

Edit: it appears that Zero1 now says they are issuing 5G sim card
https://zero.zero1.sg/announcement/zero1-5g-plus/

 

[AMD_Duron]

Thanks. That confirms my suspicion, Vivifi is issuing 5G sim cards but 5G SA is not yet operational, while Z1/Zym appears to be issuing 4G sim cards.

yup, still works in progress for ST MVNOs to move to SA, while M1/MVNOs are true 5G.

 

[Beefsteak]

Ok, so I downloaded nperf app and test on all my lines.

ST priority - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Vivifi - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)
M1 - SA
CL - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Z1 - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)

Vivifi vs Zero1 which is better? Or roughly the same?

 

[A7997A]

Vivifi vs Zero1 which is better? Or roughly the same?

Quite similar, the following are the difference i am aware of :

Zero1 supports VoWifi, Vivifi doesn't afaik.
Vivifi has more talk minutes if that is important to you.
Vivifi seems to supports delay number port, zero1 you submit at application.
Vivifi seems to have a reputation to get the name order mix up resulting in porting problems.
Vivifi appears to have more physical sign up locations, Zero1 only have 1 at harper point.

 

[gapboy]

Vivifi vs Zero1 which is better? Or roughly the same?

The network is more or less the same since under the ST umbrella.

 

[AMD_Duron]

The network is more or less the same since under the ST umbrella.

If you mean network coverage, no diff.

 

[gapboy]

If you mean network coverage, no diff.

same iterations

 

[Jirachi]

Ok, so I downloaded nperf app and test on all my lines.

ST priority - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Vivifi - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)
M1 - SA
CL - SA (sometimes switches to NSA)
Z1 - NSA (doesn't detect SA at all)

M1 will hook to SA all the time, from my experience. Same with StarHub since both are using Antina

 

[AMD_Duron]

M1 will hook to SA all the time, from my experience. Same with StarHub since both are using Antina

Which is good, in some cases, it falls to 4G but so far hasn't seen NSA.

 

[Jirachi]

Which is good, in some cases, it falls to 4G but so far hasn't seen NSA.

Oh ya. Occasionally falls to 4G, but that is very rare so far based on my experience.

 

[AMD_Duron]

Oh ya. Occasionally falls to 4G, but that is very rare so far based on my experience.

yes, I agree, the latching to SA has been stable in most cases nowadays. The time when I saw 4G was trying to compare prices in supermarkets.