[Warning!] GTX 970 memory bug cripples performance!

[es0teric]

So better don't buy first and see their reply or see their next batch?

 

[ondooy]

wait for what ? 970 is still a good card, did it became bad overnight ???
970 just can't do well in 4k as advertised...

 

[joeltng]

wait for what ? 970 is still a good card, did it became bad overnight ???
970 just can't do well in 4k as advertised...

It's not a bad card now, but has the potential to be in the future? I would have definitely rather Nvidia sold it as a 3.5 GB card. I can;t help but think that they were trying to hit the 4GB to entice people who wanted to do 4K gaming.

 

[ondooy]

1080=960
1080-1440=970
4k=980

 

[muddle]

It's not a bad card now, but has the potential to be in the future? I would have definitely rather Nvidia sold it as a 3.5 GB card. I can;t help but think that they were trying to hit the 4GB to entice people who wanted to do 4K gaming.

Well technically the 970 can utilize all 4gb. But that last half gig might not perform as fast the the rest though. They chose to make it all addressable.

 

[es0teric]

You guys taking about 4k as in for games or just the screen resolution to watch youtube, blu ray movie?

 

[FinalTidus]

Ok decided to just acknowledge that my GTX 970 has only 3.5GB VRAM and 1.75MB L2 cache.

Anyhow its still an awesome card. As long as my VRAM usage don't exceed 3.5GB.

 

[joeltng]

You guys taking about 4k as in for games or just the screen resolution to watch youtube, blu ray movie?

Gaming. The other stuff even my T100 with an atom processor can handle lol

Well technically the 970 can utilize all 4gb. But that last half gig might not perform as fast the the rest though. They chose to make it all addressable.

But to heavily impact performance? not to mention we don;t have the option to actually stop programs from using it? :/ still think it should have been a 3.5GB card. it just makes nvidia look like they were out to cheat people money for those that want SLI these for 4K or future proof/whatever nonsense. I'm not saying they intentionally did it, it just seems so to me.

 

[Tommorrow]

But to heavily impact performance? not to mention we don;t have the option to actually stop programs from using it? :/ still think it should have been a 3.5GB card. it just makes nvidia look like they were out to cheat people money for those that want SLI these for 4K or future proof/whatever nonsense. I'm not saying they intentionally did it, it just seems so to me.

Technically speaking, you do have the option to stop games from using it. For example, you could lower your graphics settings so that less vram is used. #JustSaying

 

[joeltng]

Technically speaking, you do have the option to stop games from using it. For example, you could lower your graphics settings so that less vram is used. #JustSaying

at which point i'm more than inclined to go with a 290X with an aftermarket cooler. It's cheaper performs just about there?

The main thing is they advertise it as a 4GB card, which is some sort of mythtical number for 4K/future proofing ****, the fact that this card performs less than stellar when fully utilising 4GB kinda gives me pause. sure we can turn down settings, but why even go through such a hoopla? market it as a 3.5GB card, and honestly it's still smashing. The main gripe i have is them marketing it as a 4GB card when they know it will definitely affect performance. It's more of a ethical/moral thing i guess, much less the perf. I for one am scratching my head as to still recomend this over the 290X for my friends build.

 

[es0teric]

Gaming. The other stuff even my T100 with an atom processor can handle lol

So 970 can support 4K monitor?

 

[joeltng]

So 970 can support 4K monitor?

if it's just desktop yea sure. Just that gaming is abit of a ? now, depending on the settings of course.

Edit : honestly tho I rather have a decent 1440P Screen for now, 4K screens are still pretty hard to drive (for games) esp if you want all the nice effects turned on

 

[Tommorrow]

at which point i'm more than inclined to go with a 290X with an aftermarket cooler. It's cheaper performs just about there?

The main thing is they advertise it as a 4GB card, which is some sort of mythtical number for 4K/future proofing ****, the fact that this card performs less than stellar when fully utilising 4GB kinda gives me pause. sure we can turn down settings, but why even go through such a hoopla? market it as a 3.5GB card, and honestly it's still smashing. The main gripe i have is them marketing it as a 4GB card when they know it will definitely affect performance. It's more of a ethical/moral thing i guess, much less the perf. I for one am scratching my head as to still recomend this over the 290X for my friends build

Agreed, the 290X is a better deal now, especially considering how much its price has dropped.

Well, the lesson here: if something is too good to be true, it usually is. A while back, the 970 was such a big deal because of its price to performance ratio. And I think some people were even mocking those who bought the 980 because it's so much more expensive yet it apparently only offered a marginal increase in performance compared to the 970. Well, now we know, there is a reason for the price difference!

 

[Mikiberry]

Off topic, even with SLI 970 I can't even run 45+ FPS in Assassin's cReed Unity LOLOL.

 

[Tommorrow]

Off topic, even with SLI 970 I can't even run 45+ FPS in Assassin's cReed Unity LOLOL.

Interesting, with a single 980, I average about 45 fps at 1440p. That's with all settings maxed, except anti-aliasing which I set at FXAA.

 

[ondooy]

is there such a thing called "future proof" ?
970 is still the best bang for your buck...
290x is great but with the power draw and heat output, not worth it to some...

 

[Mikiberry]

Interesting, with a single 980, I average about 45 fps at 1440p. That's with all settings maxed, except anti-aliasing which I set at FXAA.

Maxed it with TXAA, gonna try shadowplay to check the FPS again. Then again, this is more of a driver issue and game optimisation rather than the card itself.

At least they fixed the SLI flickering issue and TXAA is playable now. It used to stutter so badly that it is not playable at all.

 

[Tommorrow]

Maxed it with TXAA, gonna try shadowplay to check the FPS again. Then again, this is more of a driver issue and game optimisation rather than the card itself.

At least they fixed the SLI flickering issue and TXAA is playable now. It used to stutter so badly that it is not playable at all.

I remember reading somewhere, I think it was NeoGAF, that for some reason, TXAA actually looked worse in AC Unity. Never tested it out myself though.

In any case, to me, AA is one of those things where, when you're intensely playing the game, you don't really notice how good or bad it is, mostly you're just focused on taking out the bad guys and avoiding death. Unless you're constantly stopping to admire the scenery. Maybe in the beginning to middle of the game, you'd do that, but after a while, it's like, meh, why bother.

 

[es0teric]

if it's just desktop yea sure. Just that gaming is abit of a ? now, depending on the settings of course.

Edit : honestly tho I rather have a decent 1440P Screen for now, 4K screens are still pretty hard to drive (for games) esp if you want all the nice effects turned on

I am more keen watch movie, tv program in 4k resolution than playing 4K games

 

[Mikiberry]

I remember reading somewhere, I think it was NeoGAF, that for some reason, TXAA actually looked worse in AC Unity. Never tested it out myself though.

In any case, to me, AA is one of those things where, when you're intensely playing the game, you don't really notice how good or bad it is, mostly you're just focused on taking out the bad guys and avoiding death. Unless you're constantly stopping to admire the scenery. Maybe in the beginning to middle of the game, you'd do that, but after a while, it's like, meh, why bother.

TXAA looks more polish, just the stuttering kills the game entirely.
It used to be great without AA, they changed the texture, I cannot tahan the pixelated looks at the walls and it was really really bad. (I am too used to played at max AA etc. with mods for Skyrim, so I am the kinda person that actually admires the scenery more than anything lol). Maybe I should try your option to make a comparison when I am back home.