“We won’t make it!!” The Incredible Story of Singapore Airlines Flight 319

[Acetone]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...et-forced-to-land-in-batam-with-very-low-fuel

Updated
October 31, 2023 at 10:29 AM



SINGAPORE – Investigations into a 2022 incident where a Singapore Airlines plane made an unscheduled landing in Batam with critically low levels of fuel found that those involved could have handled the situation better.
Flight SQ319, which was heading to Singapore from London on Oct 25, 2022, was diverted from Changi Airport due to bad weather at the time.
An investigation report on the incident said the flight crew appeared to prefer landing in Changi, even though an earlier diversion would have allowed them to land in Batam under better conditions.
The weather over Batam later deteriorated, forcing the pilots who had already declared a fuel emergency to abort their initial approach.
One of the pilots then tried to perform an automated landing from the other direction and was startled by a message from his flight display saying that he was not permitted to do so.
The pilots also did not realise that they had failed to contact the air traffic control tower in Batam, and did not get clearance to land on one of their initial attempts. The plane landed only on their fourth try.


There were 280 people on board Flight SQ319 at the time, according to the incident report by the Transport Safety Investigation Bureau (TSIB) published on Sept 25. No one was injured, and there was no damage to the Boeing 777-300ER aircraft.

On Saturday, in response to queries, the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) said there were shortcomings in the way that the flight diversion was handled.
However, there were no regulatory breaches by SIA, said Mr Alan Foo, senior director of the safety regulation group at CAAS.
According to CAAS safety regulations, which apply to any aircraft operated by a Singapore operator, a flight must be planned such that it is able to land at its destination with a certain amount of fuel left.

Called “final reserve fuel”, or FRF, this is the absolute minimum required for an aircraft to remain airborne safely, in case of delays.
The pilot in command of the plane must monitor fuel levels throughout the flight and take appropriate action, such as adjusting the flight route, if the FRF may be depleted.

Must be the bbfa never pay fat tax… better weigh everyone next time

 

[elvintay07]

is it due to some cost cutting?

 

[galmongie]

That time my flight to bkk had to park at some military airbase to re-fuel because of bad weather at destination airport

Some passengers upon seeing the plane landed started taking their stuff from the overhead compartment
Maybe don't understand English lol

 

[KYZT2021]

huh flight planning so cui?

 

[tauntme]

It's really quite dangerous if u read the full article!!

 

[GarnetDragon]

 

[elvintay07]

It's really quite dangerous if u read the full article!!

Aiya. What to do? A lot of times company wants to save cost and asked pilot to land in SG because they got no ground team blah blah. Alternatively is pilot dk and refuse to follow the ground control’s instructions to say divert.

Normal one la. In the air, pilot is king mah. Those regulators are like paper tigers la. What can they do? Haha! In the end also say “crew could have done better” and all these talk cock situation

 

[Hisashiburi]

These are only the exposed incidents

dunno how many compromised flights they covered up oredi...

Have public website to check.

Many incidents regarding sq that dont make the news.

Sq not as safe as people think.

 

[ThinkMe]

Never contact Batam ATC and want to land there. .. sounds like an untrained pilot leh

Captain does the flying and comms at the same time never let First Officer to handle

 

[MatrixFanatic]

Is it more and more unsafe to take aeroplane now?

Travelling on the road pose a bigger danger than air travel and even covid lol.

 

[Crooni]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...et-forced-to-land-in-batam-with-very-low-fuel

On Saturday, in response to queries, the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) said there were shortcomings in the way that the flight diversion was handled.

However, there were no regulatory breaches by SIA, said Mr Alan Foo, senior director of the safety regulation group at CAAS.

as usual all taichi no blame

from report, 3 flights in front all divert, only this one die die want to wait for changi. no mention if the 3 are sq or not

the botch landings at batam from the video is cos they short on fuel keep trying to cut the approach short

 

[MiG123]

Wonder who’s the pilot, usually sinkies quite kiasi and cautious one. Issit one of the talents they’ve been trying to hire from you know where or transferee from their AI/Vistara JV?

 

[coolad74]

Captain does the flying and comms at the same time never let First Officer to handle

Huh? Captain and first officer all pilots … so how come can happened? Captain newbie ah?

 

[Evil_Boss]

Huh? Captain and first officer all pilots … so how come can happened? Captain newbie ah?

bad crew resource management.

usually is FO operate comms, capt fly.

but with the low fuel i think they were all panicking

 

[WhiteStone]

Have public website to check.

Many incidents regarding sq that dont make the news.

Sq not as safe as people think.

Can SIC

 

[keewee0415]

Not as satki as Captain Sully who landed his plane on the Hudson River after a bird strike.

He simply said "Unable" to all options thrown at him by the tower.

 

[djkopikat]

Nobody die, case closed, sg style: no blame culture

 

[pwongkk]

Covid time never fly, skills rusty.

What are the rationality of the pilots?

 

[erwinrommel]

Have been a subscriber to Mentour pilot.

Very high quality videos from a real experienced commercial pilot. Learnt so much from him.

 

[cute_togepi]

https://avherald.com/h?comment=50f11fc3&opt=0

Quote from one poster:

"I was on this flight…
By GrumpyShrimp on Monday, Oct 2nd 2023 03:48Z

I happened to be on this flight and at the time couldn’t understand why they had not diverted to KLIA or Batam significantly earlier given the localise weather conditions.

Shortly after successful landing a short taxi was completed arriving near a gate, but before the doors were opened or a connecting bridge/stair way arrived, the aircraft lost all power, without warning. A refuelling was completed with passengers on board before attempting to restart the AGPU which ultimately failed. Later a ground generator arrived and provided external power which also continued to drop out frequently. In the end all passengers disembarked and were held until an engineering crew could be flown in from SIN. 30 minutes after engineering crew arrival the passengers reboarded, power restored and was able to take off.

Eventual arrival was 12+ hours after original scheduled arrival time."

F***, the plane had no fuel left, 0, nothing, zilch, after taxiing.