What linux distro are you using?

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Nice! I can't use a distro without KDE! :D

Amateurs. :s22:

'Real' Linux users use a plain Wayland compositor + window manager like Weston or Sway and write their own config files to beat it into submission. No legacy Xorg DEs or WMs .
 

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Amateurs. :s22:

'Real' Linux users use a plain Wayland compositor + window manager like Weston or Sway and write their own config files to beat it into submission. No legacy Xorg DEs or WMs .

I was thinking real users just use command line without graphical interface? At least that was how I have been using Linux across SSH in headless fashion all these years. :)
 

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I was thinking real users just use command line without graphical interface? At least that was how I have been using Linux across SSH in headless fashion all these years. :)

The master has spoken! :D

Can't launch a web browser, email client and productivity suite with no graphical interface, unfortunately. :(
 

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The master has spoken! :D

Can't launch a web browser, email client and productivity suite with no graphical interface, unfortunately. :(

No you can't, but you want to describe expert(perhaps also hardcore) as how you use Linux right ? Hence I recommend console mode only.

Cypher in matrix claimed "All I see is blonde, brunette, red-head...." from the following screenshot.
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Now if you disagree with my earlier comments, that would clearly means there is no truth that merely using console mode is more expert. It is not how you interface with the system that makes you an expert. It is how you use the system to get your work done in the most effective and productive manner that makes you an expert.

If you need to use GIMP on whatever GUI you have on the system, you are an expert in that area. Is it not the case ? :)

For my use cases, I don't need a GUI, that is why console mode is most effective for me. For some operations, I don't even login manually using SSH to administrate it if I'm dealing with hundreds of servers. I basically just let ANSIBLE or SALT to do the work for me. Hence it is back to what you want from the Linux OS and how you make it work to your advantage. Agree ? :)

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Oh btw when it comes to WM, I am a minimalist. Hence back those days, I use Blackbox WM. KDE and Gnome are too heavy for my system back in 2002 and I mostly just work with web browsers, openoffice and xterm. I can also survive on WM as simple as TWM since my objective on Linux is not beautiful desktop, but rather learning a NIX* OS.
 
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Oh btw when it comes to WM, I am a minimalist. Hence back those days, I use Blackbox WM. KDE and Gnome are too heavy for my system back in 2002 and I mostly just work with web browsers, openoffice and xterm. I can also survive on WM as simple as TWM since my objective on Linux is not beautiful desktop, but rather learning a NIX* OS.

I am a little different here. True, I just need a GUI to launch a web browser, the terminal shell, my email client and LibreOffice. DE or WM makes no difference anymore because all my applications are compiled from scratch from source code in /home and then launched with self-written executable scripts that I dumped in my $PATH

But I do want a slightly beautiful interface. And by beautiful, I mean:
  1. Must be Wayland-based with the Xwayland backend. No legacy Xorg crap desktop environments like Plasma Xorg or Gnome 3 Xorg, or the vast majority of window managers. Wayland is an entire decade in the making and by jove, distributions need to force people onto it instead of still staying on that antique X.
  2. Must be composited and running off the appropriate drm drivers for GPU accelerated drawing and compositing
  3. Must be at native resolution
  4. Lastly, must be a stacking window manager. Tiling managers don't work for my style of computing. Good thing the reference Weston compositor for Wayland is also a stacking window manager!
 
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Amateurs. :s22:

'Real' Linux users use a plain Wayland compositor + window manager like Weston or Sway and write their own config files to beat it into submission. No legacy Xorg DEs or WMs .

I ain't got time for that mate. If I am young like you, I might still do that!
 

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KDE is already being ported to Wayland but it is unusable as it is because it is so. fu3king. slow.

elementary is too laggy. I stopped using it on first login.

AT least Plasma Wayland works on your system. On mine with the Nouveau drivers it locks up instantly after signing in.

And elementary is laggy? No way. Check if your installation is using llvmpipe. That is the only explanation for laggy wayland environments.
 

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I am running on an AMD graphics card. I used nouveau and it also locked up my system.

Was able to get Plasma Wayland running by disabling Nouveau acceleration. Forces a fallback to llvmpipe (i.e. s/w renderer) which is apparently enough to start Plasma Wayland.

But performance on llvmpipe is horrible even on a top-of-the-line system with 8 CPU cores. Hence returned to the reference Weston compositor.

Used Gnome Wayland for years and officially bored of it. But it works extremely well on both i915, amdgpu and Nouveau.
 

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I am a little different here. True, I just need a GUI to launch a web browser, the terminal shell, my email client and LibreOffice. DE or WM makes no difference anymore because all my applications are compiled from scratch from source code in /home and then launched with self-written executable scripts that I dumped in my $PATH

But I do want a slightly beautiful interface.

Just FYI.

I was distro-hopping between 1998-2002 and the restart with Linux in 2005 with Ubuntu 5.04. Ubuntu was pretty good but then I discovered Mac OS X in late 2011 with the purchase of Mac Mini 2011 and I found it perfect for the use case you mentioned.

I was mostly using the terminal but I also liked to use Chrome Browser and GUI text editors (simple vi and nano editor as well). And also Virtual Box Windows/Linux/BSDs VMs. For the Linux VMs mostly I used Ubuntu or Debian with XFCE but for the NetBSD VM I was using OpenBox. Still I mostly use terminal.

Under Windows I was using MSYS2 and still using it now.

My Mac Mini died in early 2018. I decided to go without a desktop but switch to Arm Linux on the maker boards and Android TV boxes. Ubuntu and Debian only with Raspian and Armbian. Occasionally I use my wife's Windows laptop and in rare cases I would power up my old 2010 laptop running Ubuntu 16.04 and XFCE.

My use case is rather simple though, pull from Github, build and carry out some tests on the hardware. Reply to mailing list and github tickets using Chrome browser. Just some small open source projects and most of them are cross platform and a few are windows only.
 
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Many Distros

I have been using Linux from 1997. Here are the distros I have used for more than a month at least.

Redhat 5.x
Mandrake
Debian
Slackware
Ubuntu
Fedora
Caledra
BackTrack (Kali)
SuSe Linux
Cent OS
PC Linux
Knoppix
Linux Mint (current) The best till now.
MX Linux (current)

Also have tried FreeBSD, Solaris, NetBSD etc...
 

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I have been using Linux from 1997. Here are the distros I have used for more than a month at least.

Redhat 5.x
Mandrake
Debian
Slackware
Ubuntu
Fedora
Caledra
BackTrack (Kali)
SuSe Linux
Cent OS
PC Linux
Knoppix
Linux Mint (current) The best till now.
MX Linux (current)

Also have tried FreeBSD, Solaris, NetBSD etc...

Haha, since 1998, almost the same except no MX Linux. All others used. Also Corel and OpenBSD, as well as BeOS and HaiKu..

Still mostly use Ubuntu and Debian since 2005.
 
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I'm switching between Win10 n Linux.
However every time I switch to Win10, the time always go out of sync.
How did you guys fix that ?
 

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BTW, if you have a good enough Windows PC or Mac (with at least 8GB RAM), you can use Virtual Machine for Linux distro hopping. When I was using my Mac Mini 2011 (late 2011 to early 2018), I ran various virtual machine s, Windows, Linux, BSDs and even Haiku, for testing of libusb project (I am one of the admins, mainly on supporting and testing side, as I can not code properly).

And in the end, just stick to one or two distro.

Now I seldom use x86 desktop/laptop at home, rather I use ARM based maker boards like Raspberry Pi and Orange Pi boards running Linux.
 
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Check and found the Times Update is set to manual.
Will change to auto and see how.

Set up correct timezone in Linux. System time should be set to use local time and not UTC.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/System_time

And enable ntp services in Windows (and Linux).


Prefer to switch between different HDDs. :s13:

BTW, if you have a good enough Windows PC or Mac (with at least 8GB RAM), you can use Virtual Machine for Linux distro hopping. When I was using my Mac Mini 2011 (late 2011 to early 2018), I ran various virtual machine s, Windows, Linux, BSDs and even Haiku, for testing of libusb project (I am one of the admins, mainly on supporting and testing side, as I can not code properly).

And in the end, just stick to one or two distro.

Now I seldom use x86 desktop/laptop at home, rather I use ARM based maker boards like Raspberry Pi and Orange Pi boards running Linux.
 
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