Which MBA?

[Genesisz]

thanks for your answer. has anyone actually come up with a list of top unis offering MBAs? im quite interested to know more about MBAs. I finish reading the first 50 pages of this thread. will continue reading to learn more about this.

Although it is a good combination, it is not necessary to do a MBA after a law degree.

Actual experience matters more.

 

[jysw1986]

Dilemma

Anyone taken MBA from Strathclyde at YMCA before?
How is it?

I'm contemplating on this for 2 weeks.
Strathclyde cost is around $35k and does not need GMAT. Can start in OCT 2016

Whereas, if I were to try to apply for NUS, NTU or SMU, the cost will be 60-70k and I will need to prepared 1-2 months to study for the GMAT and hope to get a good score before I even apply.

Anyone has friends taken from Strathclyde and how is the feedback or job prospect if looking to try consultancy jobs.
Thanks

 

[Pineapple.wong]

Anyone taken MBA from Strathclyde at YMCA before?
How is it?

I'm contemplating on this for 2 weeks.
Strathclyde cost is around $35k and does not need GMAT. Can start in OCT 2016

Whereas, if I were to try to apply for NUS, NTU or SMU, the cost will be 60-70k and I will need to prepared 1-2 months to study for the GMAT and hope to get a good score before I even apply.

Anyone has friends taken from Strathclyde and how is the feedback or job prospect if looking to try consultancy jobs.
Thanks

Don't know about Strathclyde. Don't know the real place it's named after (presumably- I presumed wrongly; Wikipedia tells me it is a merger of many colleges in Glasgow), can't pronounce the name without butchering it
What I do know is the one down the road from Strathclyde called Adelaide.
You want to know more about that you can probe further and I'll tell you what I know of it.

Other than that, if cost is a major factor for you in taking an MBA, I question your readiness to get any Masters qualification at all. It is either you are ready for the time and monetary commitment or not. There's no in-between about a decision like this.

 

[jysw1986]

Don't know about Strathclyde. Don't know the real place it's named after (presumably- I presumed wrongly; Wikipedia tells me it is a merger of many colleges in Glasgow), can't pronounce the name without butchering it
What I do know is the one down the road from Strathclyde called Adelaide.
You want to know more about that you can probe further and I'll tell you what I know of it.

Other than that, if cost is a major factor for you in taking an MBA, I question your readiness to get any Masters qualification at all. It is either you are ready for the time and monetary commitment or not. There's no in-between about a decision like this.

Thanks Wong.
Well, I wouldn't say money is not a factor at all.
It sure is because I would probably wipe out every single cent I have.
I have yet to probe further because I'm looking at the overall perspective of the different providers (NTU, NUS, SMU & Stratchlyde. Will look at Adelaide)

One factor for my dilemma is GMAT as well. Should I really wait another year to start MBA because I would need time to study for GMAT and take it then only apply for the local 3 uni or just go ahead with Strathclyde which I can start in 3-4 months time.

Thanks again, will look into Adelaide. and is it okay if I pm you to get more info of Adelaide?

 

[Pineapple.wong]

Thanks Wong.
Well, I wouldn't say money is not a factor at all.
It sure is because I would probably wipe out every single cent I have.
I have yet to probe further because I'm looking at the overall perspective of the different providers (NTU, NUS, SMU & Stratchlyde. Will look at Adelaide)

One factor for my dilemma is GMAT as well. Should I really wait another year to start MBA because I would need time to study for GMAT and take it then only apply for the local 3 uni or just go ahead with Strathclyde which I can start in 3-4 months time.

Thanks again, will look into Adelaide. and is it okay if I pm you to get more info of Adelaide?

This is the internet, you are free to do whatever you want assuming you don't care about surveillance If you want my opinion on GMAT I can give it to you too. I can even go further to speculate why the unis insist on it.

The other thing being, if $30K is a very heavy burden for you at this point, I am not saying you cannot get an MBA as you plan to. I am just correlating it to the position you presumably are on the corporate ladder right now, and I am guessing that now is not the right time. You, I speculate, will not see too much of a career advancement regardless of which MBA you take right now.

It's either that or you took a really overpriced undergraduate degree and is feeling the ramifications of it or is generally a potential finance/consultancy guy very bad at saving money

 

[jysw1986]

This is the internet, you are free to do whatever you want assuming you don't care about surveillance If you want my opinion on GMAT I can give it to you too. I can even go further to speculate why the unis insist on it.

The other thing being, if $30K is a very heavy burden for you at this point, I am not saying you cannot get an MBA as you plan to. I am just correlating it to the position you presumably are on the corporate ladder right now, and I am guessing that now is not the right time. You, I speculate, will not see too much of a career advancement regardless of which MBA you take right now.

It's either that or you took a really overpriced undergraduate degree and is feeling the ramifications of it or is generally a potential finance/consultancy guy very bad at saving money

Oh, okay a little about my situation.
Well, I'm actually the opposite of what you think.
I'm malaysian and graduated with Bachelor's in Mech Eng in Msia.
Came here 5 years ago and working my ass off.
Currently working as a Project HSE System Engineer for an oil and gas EPSCC company overseeing 6 worksites in Angola, Abu Dhabi, Indonesia & Singapore. So for career wise, I think i'm slightly ahead of my peers at my previous workplace or age group.

As for financial background, I'm in fact quite savvy.
I've bought a house 2 years back, 30k stucked in endowment, 40k in stocks local and global, and probably one year emergency fund in cash.
That's why i'm in a dilemma.

Strathclyde can start oct 2016 (GMAT not required)
Adelaide can start oct 2016 or jan 2017 (GMAT not required it seems)
NUS / SMU / NTU would required GMAT

 

[Pineapple.wong]

Oh, okay a little about my situation.
Well, I'm actually the opposite of what you think.
I'm malaysian and graduated with Bachelor's in Mech Eng in Msia.
Came here 5 years ago and working my ass off.
Currently working as a Project HSE System Engineer for an oil and gas EPSCC company overseeing 6 worksites in Angola, Abu Dhabi, Indonesia & Singapore. So for career wise, I think i'm slightly ahead of my peers at my previous workplace or age group.

As for financial background, I'm in fact quite savvy.
I've bought a house 2 years back, 30k stucked in endowment, 40k in stocks local and global, and probably one year emergency fund in cash.
That's why i'm in a dilemma.

Strathclyde can start oct 2016 (GMAT not required)
Adelaide can start oct 2016 or jan 2017 (GMAT not required it seems)
NUS / SMU / NTU would required GMAT

Replied you in PM.
Don't any how hao lian you got big house, big stocks ok?
I go your house and squat down there then you know.

 

[intime]

Oh, okay a little about my situation.
Well, I'm actually the opposite of what you think.
I'm malaysian and graduated with Bachelor's in Mech Eng in Msia.
Came here 5 years ago and working my ass off.
Currently working as a Project HSE System Engineer for an oil and gas EPSCC company overseeing 6 worksites in Angola, Abu Dhabi, Indonesia & Singapore. So for career wise, I think i'm slightly ahead of my peers at my previous workplace or age group.

As for financial background, I'm in fact quite savvy.
I've bought a house 2 years back, 30k stucked in endowment, 40k in stocks local and global, and probably one year emergency fund in cash.
That's why i'm in a dilemma.

Strathclyde can start oct 2016 (GMAT not required)
Adelaide can start oct 2016 or jan 2017 (GMAT not required it seems)
NUS / SMU / NTU would required GMAT

If you intend to stay with your EPSCC company, best to check with your company on whether they recognise that strathclyde mba for your career advancement.
It will also be good to find out which branded mba your superiors and colleagues have, to get a gist of what your company accepts.

For top consultancy jobs, your best choice will be INSEAD.

 

[jysw1986]

If you intend to stay with your EPSCC company, best to check with your company on whether they recognise that strathclyde mba for your career advancement.
It will also be good to find out which branded mba your superiors and colleagues have, to get a gist of what your company accepts.

For top consultancy jobs, your best choice will be INSEAD.

I'm not looking to stay with the company as i'm actually under a Project based. Which means, after completing this 3 years project, everyone will be demobilised. You can say it's contract/project type of job.

INSEAD is definitely the best option but getting in and paying the $$$ is another whole different scenario.
I'm not saying that i am not ambitious, but i think i'll be fine with a lesser known consultancy firm/jobs to start off with and work my way forward from there.

I'm not getting an MBA so that once I graduate I can jump into the top consultant firm or aiming for a big salary jump. Maybe, it is somewhat self improvement, certifications, and better leadership fundamentals.

 

[Genesisz]

Replied you in PM.
Don't any how hao lian you got big house, big stocks ok?
I go your house and squat down there then you know.

Go squat down there for what?

 

[Pineapple.wong]

Go squat down there for what?

you never heard of illegal occupation and trespass is it? My opportunity to stay in big house rather than my bird nest HDB, why not?

 

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[denilson]

I'm not looking to stay with the company as i'm actually under a Project based. Which means, after completing this 3 years project, everyone will be demobilised. You can say it's contract/project type of job.

INSEAD is definitely the best option but getting in and paying the $$$ is another whole different scenario.
I'm not saying that i am not ambitious, but i think i'll be fine with a lesser known consultancy firm/jobs to start off with and work my way forward from there.

I'm not getting an MBA so that once I graduate I can jump into the top consultant firm or aiming for a big salary jump. Maybe, it is somewhat self improvement, certifications, and better leadership fundamentals.

Hmm ROI wise insead is definitely better

But SMU/NUS can get you into KPMG/Deloitte, BBM possible but harder

 

[jysw1986]

Hmm ROI wise insead is definitely better

But SMU/NUS can get you into KPMG/Deloitte, BBM possible but harder

Thanks for the advise. Yup i totally agree with u.
Either way, it is not easy at all to enter Insead plus taking 10 months just to study and price tag is really no joke.

 

[delay]

its a little odd to some and may present a painful truth to others

if you are choosing schools based on pricing then chances are high that it really is not going to grant you much ROI
if the school is choosing you based on your gmat scores then chances are it is a decent school with some level of ROI

programs not using GMAT as a form of gate keeping is in itself pretty telling, it reflects on the candidates it wishes to attract - people who cannot take a certain amount of examination rigor and in some ways looking for an easy way to attain a qualification.

During my time, Insead needed 700+ to get an interview whereas NUS and NTU will offer you close to free scholarship if you join them. So in a sense it tells you how a top candidate at NUS is probably not so well regarded elsewhere. Small fish in a big pond vs big fish in a small pond. This is another angle you need to ascertain for yourself. Go invest / study where your limits are or where your ambitions take you. No point taking a YMCA course if you want to get into a top tier management consulting firm, likewise, no point taking a Harvard MBA if your industry values work experience more than a business degree. Knowing what you want to get out of the program will tell you which program you should be working towards

 

[Pineapple.wong]

Agree with everything except the GMAT scores. If you are already onto a Wife, who cares what your first girlfriend's name is? (Unless you do). GMAT is a very bad cross between the o and a level English and Maths; and anybody with an ounce of experience can tell how useful those scores are in real life. And let it be known, if an MBA focuses ONLY on candidates that can take the exam rigor you speak of, then it's better to not have any MBA at all. I will definitely avoid it like the Brazil Olympics.

A GMAT requirement is an indicator of some level of standard but that does not necessarily mean that all else that do not have such a requirement is of dubious standards.

The multiple threads of NUS/NTU accepting people direct from undergraduate studies proves my point....and they require GMAT scores.

its a little odd to some and may present a painful truth to others

programs not using GMAT as a form of gate keeping is in itself pretty telling, it reflects on the candidates it wishes to attract - people who cannot take a certain amount of examination rigor and in some ways looking for an easy way to attain a qualification.

During my time, Insead needed 700+ to get an interview whereas NUS and NTU will offer you close to free scholarship if you join them. So in a sense it tells you how a top candidate at NUS is probably not so well regarded elsewhere. Small fish in a big pond vs big fish in a small pond. This is another angle you need to ascertain for yourself. Go invest / study where your limits are or where your ambitions take you. No point taking a YMCA course if you want to get into a top tier management consulting firm, likewise, no point taking a Harvard MBA if your industry values work experience more than a business degree. Knowing what you want to get out of the program will tell you which program you should be working towards

 

[goodchong]

NTU does not accept MBA candidates directly from undergraduate studies.
Minimum working experience is still required for NTU, i believe it's the same for NUS.

Agree with everything except the GMAT scores. If you are already onto a Wife, who cares what your first girlfriend's name is? (Unless you do). GMAT is a very bad cross between the o and a level English and Maths; and anybody with an ounce of experience can tell how useful those scores are in real life. And let it be known, if an MBA focuses ONLY on candidates that can take the exam rigor you speak of, then it's better to not have any MBA at all. I will definitely avoid it like the Brazil Olympics.

A GMAT requirement is an indicator of some level of standard but that does not necessarily mean that all else that do not have such a requirement is of dubious standards.

The multiple threads of NUS/NTU accepting people direct from undergraduate studies proves my point....and they require GMAT scores.

 

[Pineapple.wong]

NTU does not accept MBA candidates directly from undergraduate studies.
Minimum working experience is still required for NTU, i believe it's the same for NUS.

I stand corrected. Still does not detract from my point about GMAT and what have you though...

 

[delay]

GMAT is only the baseline
decisions to accept are never made with that, thats why there are interviews
a certain level gets you an interview, thats all
after that its yourself

think of it as a job interview
Your CV gets you the interview, not the job


however decisions to eliminate is based on gmat

 

[denilson]

GMAT is only the baseline
decisions to accept are never made with that, thats why there are interviews
a certain level gets you an interview, thats all
after that its yourself

think of it as a job interview
Your CV gets you the interview, not the job


however decisions to eliminate is based on gmat

gmat is a hygiene factor, once you get above a certain min score, any higher doesn't really matter