WiFi 7 Device SpeedTest and WiFi 7 adapters

[Henry Ng]

Singtel 5Gbps plan
Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR 10G LAN port -- 2.5G/10G Hasivo switch's 10G RJ45 port
Hasivo switch 2.5G LAN port --> Asus TUF-BE6500 in router mode (Double NAT)

Client: Acer 2021 Windows 11 laptop connected to TUF-BE6500, 3m distance, using Comfast CF-983BE BE6500 USB WiFi 7 adapter, 5GHz band, CH60, 160MHz channel bandwidth,

1) Using default SSID (2.4GHz/5GHz same SSID), cannot connect. Strange. Maybe a bug with either the TUF-BE6500 or more likely the bug of the CF-983BE Windows driver.

2) Using MLO SSID, 2882Mbps PHY link speed

3) Using the IOT SSID, 2401Mbps PHY Link Speed

Your wifi 7 client speed test is same same as my speed test with wifi 6 client. Why some wifi 7 client can give very good speed test result while some is so so only?

 

[xiaofan]

Your wifi 7 client speed test is same same as my speed test with wifi 6 client. Why some wifi 7 client can give very good speed test result while some is so so only?

Because I do not have WiFi 7 router with 6GHz band, I only have dual band WiFI 7 router without 6GHz band.

I do have WiFi 7 results up to 1.9Gbps which your WiFi 6 router will not be able to match.

2x2 WiFi 6 160Mhz client on 5GHz band and 6GHz band --> up to 1.8Gbps
2x2 WiFi 7 160Mhz client on 5GHz band and 6GHz band --> up to 2Gbps (you can see not much improvement)
2x2 WiFi 7 320 MHz client on the 6Ghz band --> up to 4Gbps

 

[kashix]

Nice one!

Hopefully you can break the 4Gbps barrier soon.

I will try relentlessly…. 只许成功 不许失败 ….

 

[kashix]

Your wifi 7 client speed test is same same as my speed test with wifi 6 client. Why some wifi 7 client can give very good speed test result while some is so so only?

Chipset compatibility, channel bandwidth support, interference, all makes the difference. On the same router in my case, iPhone 16 Pro Max can only hit 1.5-1.6Gbps despite being wifi 7 client but only supporting 160Mhz. XM14 on the other hand can support 320Mhz, I hitting near 4Gbps.

 

[xiaofan]

2x2 WiFi 6 160Mhz client on 5GHz band and 6GHz band --> up to 1.8Gbps
2x2 WiFi 7 160Mhz client on 5GHz band and 6GHz band --> up to 2Gbps (you can see not much improvement)
2x2 WiFi 7 320 MHz client on the 6Ghz band --> up to 4Gbps

The above is a rough value only.

With improvement in MLO in the future, WiFi 7 client may break 4Gbps barried using 5GHz/6GHz MLO.

Triband WiFi 7 router (without 6GHz band) with proper WiFi 7 client may achieve 3Gbps as well with 5GHz-1+5GHz-2 MLO.

Record in this forum so-far.

1) Using WiFi 7 router with 6GHz band and good WiFi 7 client (Xiaomi 14 with Deco BE85, both using Qualcomm chipsets for WiFi), by kashix.

2) Using WiFi 7 router without 6GHz band and good WiFi 7 client (Asus TUF-BE6500 and Intel BE200 WiFi 7 adapter, by deepakmayekar. The result is higher than the 2Gbps barrier I mentioned above.

Best WiFi 7 speed using Dual Band WiFi 7 router without 6GHz band.

Asus TUF-BE6500 router, Intel BE200 WiFi 7 adapter.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...and-tuf-be3600.6952409/page-10#post-153501129

 

[Henry Ng]

Because I do not have WiFi 7 router with 6GHz band, I only have dual band WiFI 7 router without 6GHz band.

I do have WiFi 7 results up to 1.9Gbps which your WiFi 6 router will not be able to match.

2x2 WiFi 6 160Mhz client on 5GHz band and 6GHz band --> up to 1.8Gbps
2x2 WiFi 7 160Mhz client on 5GHz band and 6GHz band --> up to 2Gbps (you can see not much improvement)
2x2 WiFi 7 320 MHz client on the 6Ghz band --> up to 4Gbps

I see. So it is the 6Ghz wifi signal that make a big different. All wifi 7 client will have the 6 Ghz thing?

 

[Henry Ng]

The above is a rough value only.

With improvement in MLO in the future, WiFi 7 client may break 4Gbps barried using 5GHz/6GHz MLO.

Triband WiFi 7 router (without 6GHz band) with proper WiFi 7 client may achieve 3Gbps as well with 5GHz-1+5GHz-2 MLO.

Record in this forum so-far.

1) Using WiFi 7 router with 6GHz band and good WiFi 7 client (Xiaomi 14 with Deco BE85, both using Qualcomm chipsets for WiFi), by kashix.

2) Using WiFi 7 router without 6GHz band and good WiFi 7 client (Asus TUF-BE6500 and Intel BE200 WiFi 7 adapter. The result is higher than the 2Gbps barrier I mentioned above.

I see. So Wifi 7 client also got different types.

 

[xiaofan]

I see. So it is the 6Ghz wifi signal that make a big different. All wifi 7 client will have the 6 Ghz thing?

Yes, that is basically true. WiFi 6E and WiFi 7 clients will support 6GHz band.

I see. So Wifi 7 client also got different types.

Yes, some WiFi 7 clients only support 160MHz channel bandwidth, like Apple iPhone 16 (Pro and non-Pro).

In order to achieve > 3.6 Gbps, you need good WiFi 7 clients which support 320MHz channel bandwidth on the 6GHz band, and good WiFi 7 router with 6GHz band.

 

[xiaofan]

1) With improvement in MLO in the future, WiFi 7 client may break 4Gbps barried using 5GHz/6GHz MLO. We have to wait for such results.

2) Triband WiFi 7 router (without 6GHz band) with proper WiFi 7 client may achieve 3Gbps as well with 5GHz-1+5GHz-2 MLO. This will be similar to EHT240 on 5GHz band (4323 Mbps PHY Link Speed).

3) Qualcomm WiFi chipsets (Qualcomm QCNCM865 WiFi 7 adapters for PCs, and Qualcomm chipsets based flagship WiFi 7 mobile phoes) may be the best in both cases.

4) Test results from Chinese website, using triband WiFi 7 router without 6GHz band, using Qualcomm QCNCM865 WiFi 7 adapter, Windows 24H2
https://www.acwifi.net/28852.html

We can see that MLO got great potential, but you probably need to wait for better FW updates from the router and the clients side. You may also need better driver sfrom new version of Windows/Linux/Android/etc. Apple users have to wait even longer.

4a) Xiaomi BE10000, 5GHz-1 (CH44) and 5GHz-2 (CH149) MLO, similar to EHT240 in this case.

4b) TP-Link TL-7TR13090, 5GHz-1 (CH44) and 5GHz-2 (CH149) MLO, similar to EHT240 in this case.

4c) TP-Link TL-7TR13090, 5GHz-1 and 5GHz-2 MLO, with a region setting which allow 160MHz chanel bandwith for 5GHz-2 band (not allowed in China and Singapore). In this case, it can be similar to 320MHz channel bandwidth on the 6GHz band (EHT320, 5764Mbps PHY speed)

 

[Henry Ng]

1) With improvement in MLO in the future, WiFi 7 client may break 4Gbps barried using 5GHz/6GHz MLO. We have to wait for such results.

2) Triband WiFi 7 router (without 6GHz band) with proper WiFi 7 client may achieve 3Gbps as well with 5GHz-1+5GHz-2 MLO. This will be similar to EHT240 on 5GHz band (4323 Mbps PHY Link Speed).

3) Qualcomm WiFi chipsets (Qualcomm QCNCM865 WiFi 7 adapters for PCs, and Qualcomm chipsets based flagship WiFi 7 mobile phoes) may be the best in both cases.

4) Test results from Chinese website, using triband WiFi 7 router without 6GHz band, using Qualcomm QCNCM865 WiFi 7 adapter, Windows 24H2
https://www.acwifi.net/28852.html

We can see that MLO got great potential, but you probably need to wait for better FW updates from the router and the clients side. You may also need better driver sfrom new version of Windows/Linux/Android/etc. Apple users have to wait even longer.

4a) Xiaomi BE10000, 5GHz-1 (CH44) and 5GHz-2 (CH149) MLO, similar to EHT240 in this case.

4b) TP-Link TL-7TR13090, 5GHz-1 (CH44) and 5GHz-2 (CH149) MLO, similar to EHT240 in this case.

4c) TP-Link TL-7TR13090, 5GHz-1 and 5GHz-2 MLO, with a region setting which allow 160MHz chanel bandwith for 5GHz-2 band (not allowed in China and Singapore). In this case, it can be similar to 320MHz channel bandwidth on the 6GHz band (EHT320, 5764Mbps PHY speed)

Really learn something

 

[kashix]

Nice one!

Hopefully you can break the 4Gbps barrier soon.

I broke 4.1Gbps lol … I’m fastest now

 

[kashix]

I broke 4.1Gbps lol … I’m fastest now

Through my sheer determination and willpower as hard and solid as rock !!! I did it !!
Test is done on a mid-range tp link router!

@xiaofan

 

[xiaofan]

Through my sheer determination and willpower as hard and solid as rock !!! I did it !!
Test is done on a mid-range tp link router!

@xiaofan

Great!

Just wondering which mid-range TP-Link router? Is it something not launched so that you can not mention?

 

[kashix]

Great!

Just wondering which mid-range TP-Link router? Is it something not launched so that you can not mention?

Wah master 就是 master ... super smart ... yep, unreleased model, will update once got news!

 

[guile]

Wah master 就是 master ... super smart ... yep, unreleased model, will update once got news!

is it public or service provider model?

 

[xiaofan]

is it public or service provider model?

Consumer models.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ers-without-6ghz-band-support.6905228/page-55

GE800 / GE650 / GE550

BE700 / BE550 Pro -highest speed in here tested with this device?hehe

Nice ones. It is good that TP-Link now offers more options for WiFi 7 routers, especially more options with 6GHz band.

1. Archer GE800 -->Triband BE19000, quite similar to Archer BE800 in terms of wireless and HW spec.
• 1× 10 Gbps SFP+/RJ45 Combo WAN
• 1× 10 Gbps WAN/LAN
• 2× 2.5 Gbps LAN
• 4× 1 Gbps LAN

Dongknows' review is good.
https://dongknows.com/tp-link-archer-ge800-be19000-gaming-router-review/

2. Archer GE650 --> Triband BE11000, dual 5Gbps ports (one WAN and one LAN) plus three 2.5G LAN ports

3. Archer GE550 --> BE9300, dual 5Gbps ports (one WAN and one LAN) plus three 2.5G LAN ports

4. Archer BE700 --> Triband BE15000, 10G WAN port, one 2.5G LAN and three 1G LAN ports

5. Archer BE550 Pro --> similar to Archer BE550 except the 10G WAN port, Triband BE9300, with 10G WAN port and quad 2.5G LAN ports

 

[kashix]

is it public or service provider model?

Consumer model, GE800 and BE550 Pro.

 

[guile]

Consumer model, GE800 and BE550 Pro.

hope the pricing will be as competitive as Carousell BE805, esp the BE550 Pro.

 

[xiaofan]

Still trying to break the 2Gbps barrier with my dual band WiFi 7 routers (without 6GHz band).

Today got one result with the upload higher than 2Gbps.

Acer Swift Go 14 OLED, Intel Core Ultra 125H CPU and Intel Killer BE1750xWiFi 7 adapter (Intel BE200 chipset based).
Asus TUF-BE6500 dual band WiFi 7 router, close range (50 cm).

It seems to be using MLO but the PHY Link speed is still shown as 2882 Mbps, strange. Probably I will need to wait for the FW updates of Asus TUF-BE6500.

 

[xiaofan]

Interestingly I got faster >2Gbps upload speed with MyRepublic and Starhub Speedtest servers. But download speed is not good.

Anyway, the Singtel SpeedTest server results are pretty good already during evening peak time (Saturday evening 9pm to 10pm).

MR upload speed of 2212Mbps is the best I have ever got.