Will making

[mummynew]

This is bad. She is a very -ve person in thought, influenced by own bad experience in life, she openly admitted in the CPF chat thread, she posted some more there, but decided to delete.

If sharing of real life negative experiences equates a 'very -ve person in thought', then so be it.

I am actually a very positive person else will not have lived till today and achieved what I have achieved and decided to retire to nurse my plants peacefully at home.

The younger ones sometimes have to struggle thru their journeys and wisdom/maturity requires time and experience to grow (like one cannot really tell a 4 years old child not to feel sad when she loses a candy coz the 'pain' is real to the child. The child just needs to grow up a bit to know 'it's just a candy'. Can't rush maturity and wisdom.).

 

[qhong61]

Beneficiary and executor can't be a same person, correct me if I'm wrong.

Witness cannot be beneficiary.

 

[qhong61]

This is bad. She is a very -ve person in thought, influenced by own bad experience in life, she openly admitted in the CPF chat thread, she posted some more there, but decided to delete.

The choice is hers. We are not in her shoes.

 

[luvpraline]

Even without current pandemic, if a family has issue disposing the flat. It will be extended at HDB's discretion. I know of a malay neighbour who passed away suddenly. Already over 2 years. His family still unable to sell the unit due to race ratio. Chinese wanted to buy but cannot. It has to be sold to other races according to HDB. So the unit is vacant for years now..

oh yes, race ratio could be a reason. Wah unable to sell for 2 years very wasted....

 

[edwinttt1978]

Witness cannot be beneficiary.

Specifically, gifts to a beneficiary who is a witness or to the spouse of a witness will be void. The will remains valid.

Making the executor as a beneficiary may be helpful in executing the will.

 

[edwinttt1978]

The case above not a surprise to me. I have been an Administrator of 2 estates. I am aware of my responsibilities and liabilities.

Nevertheless, I choose not to follow intestacy laws in the distribution, knowing that there may be future liabilities. Just keep my fingers crossed Any statute limitation?

After so many years, I am still the operator of 2 bank accounts with negligible balance in the names of the two estates. If I mati, don't know what can happen to these accounts

Yes, there is a time bar under the Limitation Act.

Limitation of actions claiming personal estate of deceased person
23. Subject to section 22(1), no action —
(a) in respect of any claim to the personal estate of a deceased person or to any share or interest in the estate, whether under a will or on intestacy, shall be brought after the expiration of 12 years from the date when the right to receive the share or interest accrued; and
(b) to recover arrears of interest in respect of any legacy, or damages in respect of such arrears, shall be brought after the expiration of 6 years from the date on which the interest became due.

But no time limit in respect of fraud etc.

Limitation of actions in respect of trust property
22.—(1) No period of limitation prescribed by this Act shall apply to an action by a beneficiary under a trust, being an action —
(a) in respect of any fraud or fraudulent breach of trust to which the trustee was a party or privy; ...

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/LA1959?ViewType=Pdf&_=20200201035216

 

[maple96]

The choice is hers. We are not in her shoes.

Needless to say right! It is your choice to keep repeating its her choice, it is anyone's choice to write whatever they want.

It's her choice to continue to be haunted by her bad past experience, to mould her own future and her children's /others' future based on her haunted past, to mould her Will/nominations based on her haunted past, resigned to fate cos her children would have inherited the bad genes of her bad husband.

 

[qhong61]

Needless to say right! It is your choice to keep repeating its her choice, it is anyone's choice to write whatever they want.

It's her choice to continue to be haunted by her bad past experience, to mould her own future and her children's /others' future based on her haunted past, to mould her Will/nominations based on her haunted past, resigned to fate cos her children would have inherited the bad genes of her bad husband.

Whether the bro deserves to be beneficiary, she knows best. Maybe he really don't deserve it. It is easier to say to forgive and forget when we are not in her shoes. Maybe charities deserves better. If so, why not? And during tis period, is he staying rent free and utilities free?
Her bro can always find his mean. No one owe him a living.

 

[maple96]

Whether the bro deserves to be beneficiary, she knows best. Maybe he really don't deserve it. It is easier to say to forgive and forget when we are not in her shoes. Maybe charities deserves better. If so, why not? And during tis period, is he staying rent free and utilities free?
Her bro can always find his mean. No one owe him a living.

Your comment was on someone else, my respond to u was on her, why u change target?

 

[henrylbh]

Yes, there is a time bar under the Limitation Act.

Limitation of actions claiming personal estate of deceased person
23. Subject to section 22(1), no action —
(a) in respect of any claim to the personal estate of a deceased person or to any share or interest in the estate, whether under a will or on intestacy, shall be brought after the expiration of 12 years from the date when the right to receive the share or interest accrued; and
(b) to recover arrears of interest in respect of any legacy, or damages in respect of such arrears, shall be brought after the expiration of 6 years from the date on which the interest became due.

But no time limit in respect of fraud etc.

Limitation of actions in respect of trust property
22.—(1) No period of limitation prescribed by this Act shall apply to an action by a beneficiary under a trust, being an action —
(a) in respect of any fraud or fraudulent breach of trust to which the trustee was a party or privy; ...

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/LA1959?ViewType=Pdf&_=20200201035216

Thanks for the trouble in finding the statute. One estate is about 11 years and the other is about 2 years only. And my concern is the latter which involved 5 other beneficiaries. In the latter, all beneficiaries were informed prior to probate that I will distribute the estate unequally and if there is any disagreement to voice out. All have been given except the one with the most share (60%) and myself

 

[henrylbh]

Whether the bro deserves to be beneficiary, she knows best. Maybe he really don't deserve it. It is easier to say to forgive and forget when we are not in her shoes. Maybe charities deserves better. If so, why not? And during tis period, is he staying rent free and utilities free?
Her bro can always find his mean. No one owe him a living.

The bro may be a useless bump staying rent free and contribute nothing to the household. So? Owner can be heartless and dispose the flat after MOP and go separate ways as by then, owner will be eligible to buy another flat without his bro? Owner needs to bear in mind that without the bro as essential occupier, the owner cannot own the flat and benefit from the accretion in value which the essential occupier has no share. So?

Even if charities deserve better, to me, blood ties come first in the end, no matter what even when I may seem or act to be heartless.

 

[qhong61]

The bro may be a useless bump staying rent free and contribute nothing to the household. So? Owner can be heartless and dispose the flat after MOP and go separate ways as by then, owner will be eligible to buy another flat without his bro? Owner needs to bear in mind that without the bro as essential occupier, the owner cannot own the flat and benefit from the accretion in value which the essential occupier has no share. So?

Even if charities deserve better, to me, blood ties come first in the end, no matter what even when I may seem or act to be heartless.

But I thot ur auntie not leaving the flat to her own sons but u?? Their blood less thicker than yours??

 

[qhong61]

The bro may be a useless bump staying rent free and contribute nothing to the household. So? Owner can be heartless and dispose the flat after MOP and go separate ways as by then, owner will be eligible to buy another flat without his bro? Owner needs to bear in mind that without the bro as essential occupier, the owner cannot own the flat and benefit from the accretion in value which the essential occupier has no share. So?

Even if charities deserve better, to me, blood ties come first in the end, no matter what even when I may seem or act to be heartless.

But he already staying rent free all tis years...

 

[henrylbh]

But I thot ur auntie not leaving the flat to her own sons but u??

Yes she will her share of flat to me. That's a different and complicating issue which I very much regret getting involved. Though she was joint owner of the flat, she paid nothing for the flat. My share, if she dies, I promise verbally that it will go to the other owner ..... but in installments or at my discretion And if the other owner dies, I will hand over balance to her descendants. Only a 3rm flat and sounds like got so much

 

[henrylbh]

But he already staying rent free all tis years...

As a condition, he has to as he is an essential occupier. Owner no choice one for wanting to include his bro to be eligible to own the flat, even though the bro could have disagree to be joint owner.

 

[BBCWatcher]

Whether the bro deserves to be beneficiary, she knows best.

Exactly. It's her right, her decision, we know practically nothing about the circumstances, and it's ridiculous and frankly offensive to debate it. I can easily imagine why she might prefer to leave her leasehold to charity and why she's a saint already -- but it's none of our business anyway.

 

[maple96]

Exactly. It's her right, her decision, we know practically nothing about the circumstances, and it's ridiculous and frankly offensive to debate it. I can easily imagine why she might prefer to leave her leasehold to charity and why she's a saint already -- but it's none of our business anyway.

Its extremely rare occasion for u to make this comment in hzw. It is just not your usual self, always critic with dramatic fear stories, psycho and negative attacks, etc, just to influence others to your one route to rome in every situation, be it insurance, CPF Life, any thing in hwz.

Well done

 

[qhong61]

your own answer above.

my answer: auntie and nephew got blood ties too!

I also put my nephew as bene

How abt the sons??

 

[qhong61]

your own answer above.

my answer: auntie and nephew got blood ties too!

I also put my nephew as bene

Cos u are single.....

 

[qhong61]

As a condition, he has to as he is an essential occupier. Owner no choice one for wanting to include his bro to be eligible to own the flat, even though the bro could have disagree to be joint owner.

To his benefit isn't it. He should have contribute his share of cpf, why don't he? And his cpf continue to earn interest in cpf oa account...