Windows 11 and TPM

[sacredrays]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...pported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors

if your cpu inside this list, most likely your mobo got the setting for tpm.

intel PTT
amd fTPM

 

[86technie]

H81M-D PLUS


Jialat..i check my bios ..no TPM

That is old motherboard so best to stick with Windows 10.
H81 chipset is basic mobo and it does not support PCI-Express 3.0.

 

[sacredrays]

same... MSI Z97 Gaming 5 + 4790k...

have leh. under security > trusted computing

 

[86technie]

My MSI Z390 have TPM option so can upgrade to Win 11, however I will not want to
unless there is reason to do so.
BTW think most here are using Win 10 home and by default TPM is disabled for most manufacturer.

Unless you are using Win 10 Pro than TPM is needed for Bitlocker and etc. cryptographic keys
function. Which home user/version don't really need such feature.

 

[neobear224]

have leh. under security > trusted computing

Is your motherboard MSI Z97 Gaming 5 also? My CPU is i7 4790k...

 

[KleoZy]

I notice I did a mistake with my own vid lol

my fTPM was not enabled but yet I can install and to load Win 11.
fTPM even enabling back.. no diff during installation or whatsover.

I done another test on a old PC i9 975K it works too. but super slow.

both installation were done with Tech Yes City instructions and it works for me.


so now the question is. do you really need to get the TPM Module chipset. I think is redundant. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Apparatus]

Microsoft updates Windows 11 requirements, says TPM 2.0 is required​

https://www.windowslatest.com/2021/...ows-11-requirements-says-tpm-2-0-is-required/
Watch

 

[CopySeeSewDye]

so now the question is. do you really need to get the TPM Module chipset. I think is redundant. Correct me if I am wrong.

Hard to say, because u are using the workaround with win10 installer, which might not work with RTM release of windows 11. Hopefully it will still work after the full release, and that there is no critical bugs on win11 with not having a tpm, that is an issue because of tpm being a requirement, certain cryptographic features might bug out, something that I would be quite worried about on non tpm device and would rather stick to win10.

 

[sacredrays]

Is your motherboard MSI Z97 Gaming 5 also? My CPU is i7 4790k...

oh wait.. your cpu like don't have tpm..

 

[wwenze]

oh wait.. your cpu like don't have tpm..

TPM is not part of the CPU (back then anyway), else why would TPM modules exist?

 

[sacredrays]

TPM is not part of the CPU (back then anyway), else why would TPM modules exist?

newer mobo still got tpm module connectors though..

 

[KleoZy]

Hard to say, because u are using the workaround with win10 installer, which might not work with RTM release of windows 11. Hopefully it will still work after the full release, and that there is no critical bugs on win11 with not having a tpm, that is an issue because of tpm being a requirement, certain cryptographic features might bug out, something that I would be quite worried about on non tpm device and would rather stick to win10.

I guess by that time.. should retire those old PC. It just happened that I kept my working old pc as a htpc with Android OS. so just plug a SSD to test the installation. but thank you for the infor greatly appreciated.

 

[ragnarok95]

RTPM and PTT are all firmware based in the processor. If you own a recent cpu that is just a few yrs old, you shouldn't be worried.

For intel, any cpu above 3000 support trust technology. Only sandy bridge cpu doesn't.

For amd, any cpu above ryzen 2000 series support trust technology.

 

[ragnarok95]

Btw, the layman term for this is "secure boot".

 

[NightRaven49]

havent actually tried booting win 11 yet, but ftpm 2.0 seems to be present on the athlon 200ge with a b450m mortar max according to device manager. maybe ryzen 1000 does have it.

 

[ragnarok95]

There are many TPM, discrete TPM or firmware TPM.

 

[jtjt00]

I managed to enable the AMD CPU fTPM in both my Asrock x370 Gaming K4 and Asrock x570 Steel Legend motherboards. Also managed to install Windows 11 on Asrock x370 Gaming K4 rig.

 

[Goodshot]

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...pported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...supported/windows-11-supported-amd-processors

if your cpu inside this list, most likely your mobo got the setting for tpm.

intel PTT
amd fTPM

Thks aLot, I enable the ftpm and able to install 11 now . Installing

 

[11.11.]

my os c drive is mbr, can I enable secure boot anot ? or must change it to gpt?already enabled fTPM but windows check say must enable secureboot.

 

[86technie]

my os c drive is mbr, can I enable secure boot anot ? or must change it to gpt?

For OS drive, cannot convert to GPT unless the drive is meant for storage.
You have to reinstall Windows as MBR/Legacy Boot the file structure are different.

UEFI drive have EFI system, one partition for C drive and recovery partitions.
MBR wise is different, one partition for System reserved and one for C drive.
Both UEFI, MBR are different but I know some use CSM/Legacy to boot Windows but not only you lack
secure boot.

UEFI boot is faster as well as take advantage of newer hardware, CSM/Legacy are meant
for compatibility especially with older graphics without UEFI BIOS.
To install UEFI on some motherboard you have to hit F11/F12 for boot menu than boot
from UEFI thumbdrive.

BTW, legacy boot you will see this:

UEFI boot usually is manufacturer logo example Asus than desktop.
*MSI mobo wise initial setup may show this which is normal, after Windows is install than MSI logo is shown.