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Just saw the Rubicon at Cold Storage, on offer at $55, maybe buy a bottle to age first...

Hmm, seems Cellarmaster really has a great portfolio of wines then. I'm still stuck at their German, Spanish and Italian wines. But like I said before I feel the regular retail price is pretty high, better to wait for their year-end or festive sales. That said, you can get 15% discount off RRP if you order through their website with a DBS card.

I wonder if the WEA wines are from another distressed investor or cleared stock sold by CM to WEA. Always fascinated by how these wines get around, especially with Australia wine investment sagas and all..

About the WFA cancellation, yeah I'm quite disappointed too because last year was my first time, hopefully not the last! Funny that they decided not to come due to the bad economy at home - all the more reason to sell to the Asian markets then, isn't it? Though this year may not be as buoyant as the last, there's still a lot of growth potential in Asia. Also not sure if the trade exhibitors found any local buyers/agents at last year's event. Or maybe they have done their rounds at Vinexpo HK already and decided it's enough exposure. Who knows?

during festive periods ToTT has quite good discounts as well.

SG is a free port, there is a lot of wine being imported and there is also a lot of wine being re-exported from Singapore (got the data thanks to my euromonitor account).

actually Vinexpo HK is enough for them already loh. Lots of potential growth in China. What is Singapore man?
 

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My friend recommended Brown Brothers as well, will take a look at the ones u listed. Thanks!


oh yeah, auric pacific is going to have a wine fair, iirc it's 29 and 30th sept.

thanks for the heads up. hope they release the list soon.

brown brothers is the easy favourite, it's easy to drink, light, low in alcohol and quite affordable. the ones i had listed are full fledged dessert wines and should be chilled and sipped slowly :)
 

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Btw if anyone is planning on dining out or celebrating an occasion this month, the Italian restaurant La Barca is having free corkage for September. I recommend highly their T-bone steak - perfect to go with any powerful red!

Also checked out the wine list of another Italian restaurant, No Menu, today. Very impressed with the selection of top Piedmont and Tuscan producers, as well as some small dedicated artisan producers. There was half a page of half-bottles available too, and I feel the overall mark-up isn't too high - around 150% retail price, compared to 200% at most places I've seen. Corkage is 50 and they have a 1-for-1 policy too. I feel local restaurants very often miss the plot with overpriced or mediocre wines on the winelist, so many patrons actually skip the wine and the restaurant ends up having to mark up even more to earn back.

thanks for the update! sadly no fancy eating out this sept :(

No Menu is the Osvaldo one at Amoy Street rite? haven't seen their wine list yet haha...

our dining scene is not as developed as some other countries. but usually they can get away with it because people have money but don't know the wine and the kind of markups there are; but they just order any way. who orders a 2008 first growth, pays close to a $1000, pop and pour, finishing it within an hour?? :eek:

there are very few places that have a good focused and balanced wine list. and usually those that have a good winelist will tend to charge $$$. the local wine scene is growing, but still not at that level yet. those who want to buy wine but can't afford the good stuff will opt for the cheapest wine which is usually marked up the most. (retail price $28 = restaurant price $90 :s22: ) and the producer will at best be some generic one.

there are a handful of good ones around though so that's good news at least.

i have seen some great places in USA that have a good and balanced wine selection, with some having themed wine flights on friday nights and weekends. 4 glasses of a certain theme, a bit more than tasting portions, each glass is about USD 6-8. it's educational and informs people about wine so that they will buy more in future.

another place looks out for big format bottles in auctions (and i mean big, 15L, 18L etc...) because the $ per ml is more bang for the buck, plus at auctions you could get a good deal and it's well aged top producer. they advertise about it among their customers that over the weekend they will pop it and serve by the glass. sure maybe it's gonna cost USD $30 per glass, but it's usually something that's like 20+ years on it and a top producer wine. I don't mind paying that for the experience.

local places need to be more creative with their drinks/wine offerings and not stick to the usual stuff the distributors throw at them; stocking generic cheap bottles for the low tier and big bordeaux names at the top tier but with only 1-2 years of age on it.
 

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Jus went to c4 at PS, they are having storewide 30% discount. Managed to pick up a few bottles (puy lascote 08, nenin 06 n an Italian white(lousy stuff!) for arc $130. Not a bad deal I guess...but, think I am really picking the leftover .,.
 

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That seems a decent deal... Have wanted to try Nenin, but last I checked C4 Suntec only had the 2008, and without the 30% now. And Puy Lacoste is a very popular producer. Any idea when the sale ends?

Btw passed by Enoteca Takashimaya today, they are having some sales on 100 selected wines, as well as half bottles. Got a Montevertine IGT 2008 at $65 and a half bottle of 2004 Il Borro at $35.

Montevertine is a wine from the iconoclastic producer of the same name; the wine is essentially a Chianti Classico equivalent, but labelled as an IGT as the owner fell out with the Consorzio. To cut a long story short, in the 70s he offered his iconic 100% Sangiovese wine 'Le Pergole Torte' to the Consorzio to be classified as a Chianti Classico Riserva. It had all along been an IGT due to requirements at the time that Chianti Classico be a blended wine. The Consorzio told him the wine was 'not suited for bottling', words now still framed on his office wall, so the producer pulled all of his wines out from classification! To this day 'Le Pergole Torte' remains one of the cult wines of Tuscany, said to fill the tables at the G7 and G8 meetings in Rome.
 
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Sipping the 2010 Argyros Aidani at home after a long day outside. This is made from Greece indigenous grape - Aidani that I brought back from Santorini last year. Very lively on the nose with citrus, lemon and hints of mineral. The palate has nice mineral, along with lemon zest and grapefruits. Lovely acidity, high and mouth watering lead through the mid-palate to a long lingering finish. Very nice white although the acidity maybe with high for some other people.

Interestingly I found it paired very nicely with the veggie (xiao bai chye) I had in the noodle. The dry bitterness from the veggie can cut down the acidity and let the mineral and fruits flavours shine through. Hmmm... nice.

The nose and flavour profile very close to Riesling with a nice intensity and singular Santorini mineral.
 

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Went to C4 at ST this afternoon and the wines section here has not much leftover too. Manage to grab 2 bottles and disappointed did not see what I want... but I think I report to C4 too late liao. Quite sad to see them moving out as I and my friends enjoy good bargain at their wines fair especially those French wines that directly bring in by them.
 

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Yes, really sad to see them go. Only decent supermarket doing their bit for wine promotion. Anyone snagged anything else from the 30% off weekend?
 

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Had a really good wine weekend, celebrating with my family members.

Friday: Montes Late Harvest 2008

Strong notes of peaches, apricot and nectar, this is a sweet dessert that ends off a dinner nicely. We had the De Borteli's Deen Vat 5 Botrytis Semillon 2008 the week before but this one is clearly better. Sweet, but not overpowering. Complements oily food well too.

Saturday: Chateau Rouselle 2004

This is a right bank wine, but not in St Emillion or Pomerol style. Tannic at first but wine performed better after 30 minutes of decanting. Went well with fried chicken wings and german sausages. Wine has a decent attack, comfortable on the palate and mid finish. Not entirely satisfying, but nevertheless a decent wine for a Saturday evening.

Sunday: Emiliana Coyam 2006

A round, supple wine that has structure and well supported by red and dark fruits. Aromatic nose and a long lingering finish. Bottle is a little heavy though. Has Syrah, Carmenere and Merlot, all nicely blended in this beautiful red wine. Overall this is a very enjoyable wine and my family members liked it a lot.

Monday: Troll's Creek 2004

Heavily recommended by my friend and finally had a chance to get a bottle. Opened it and tried. Oh my god this is good! Very beautiful nose with a distinctive chocolate and vanilla nose. In the mouth the wine displayed notes of plums, prunes, and a nice, long spicy finish. Smooth and silky, the family finished this wine off within 15 minutes.. Truly a great wine..
 

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bought the half bottle of 2007 Il Borro Pian di Nova, not that great....zzzzzzzzzzz


anyways, we should start thinking about the next session which seems to be an all-syrah/shiraz session. anyone has any suggestions on the location? find somewhere that the food can match up to the big wines.

do u guys want to put an minimum age on the bottles so that we can avoid those big burly young shiraz/syrah, or is this something that 's ok?



on a side note, i am increasingly interested in rieslings from australia and i want to start slowly collection Eden Valley & Clare Valley rieslings so that eventually i can organize a head-to-head comparison to you guys and the public or your circle of friends. of course this one i have to charge $ cos i'm like buying like 10 bottles for those who are attending.

i'm still thinking about it....
 

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Well there are icon SuperTuscans and there are bandwagon SuperTuscans I guess... maybe Ferragamo should stick to making shoes.

Just a thought, would it be good to tweak the tastings a bit, to have half red and half white wines, so that it doesn't get too heavy overall?
 

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Sipping the 2010 Argyros Aidani at home after a long day outside. This is made from Greece indigenous grape - Aidani that I brought back from Santorini last year.

Hmm interesting, but not seen varietal Aidani wines, usually used as a blend. Just curious, what got you interested in Greek wines, was it because you were visiting the place?

Btw just to share, this restaurant near Bkt Timah has some Greek wines, thought the prices were quite reasonable.

Wine list: http://www.blukouzina.com/menu/Drinksmenu-12-online.pdf
 

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oh yeah BLU is great place for some greek food and wine. before they ran this restaurants i used to buy olive oil from them cos they had a olive plantation back in greece. nice stuff.

regarding the tasting, we can see how it goes.

option 1 - shiraz/syrah blowout
option 2 - rhone varietals (white and red) [syrah, grenache, mouvedre, marsanne, rousanne, viognier, carignan, cinsault, clairette, grenache blanc...etc)
option 3 - shiraz/syrah and random whites

any more suggestions?
 

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Hmm interesting, but not seen varietal Aidani wines, usually used as a blend. Just curious, what got you interested in Greek wines, was it because you were visiting the place?

Btw just to share, this restaurant near Bkt Timah has some Greek wines, thought the prices were quite reasonable.

Wine list: http://www.blukouzina.com/menu/Drinksmenu-12-online.pdf

Yeah was planning a trip to Athens last year as I always has the interest to visit Parthenon on Acropolis. Then my wife wanted to visit this beautiful island Santorini and told me there are several winery on the island that I can visit.

At first I do not believe the winery there can produce good wines but after some research I was excited that Santorini is producing some of the best wines of Greece and there are some wineries worth visiting. I was especially pleased and impressed by the Argyros visit and tasting.

Estate Argyros do not have a proper cellar door and a rather small place for the staff to showcase their wines (The other 2 wineries I visited - Santo Wines & Domaine Sigalas are more commercialize with big tasting room and show room but would make you pay for the tasting and the wine glass wasn't up to the standard.) The staff walked us through their whole range of wines with explanation of grape varietal and wine-making too. (Without any charges plus a good Bordeaux glass, but this should be what I expected after some visit to the Autralia winery) That was a pleasant experience and I like the wines from Argyros but I was told that they do no export wines to Singapore.

So now I am pretty surprise to see Argyros wine appear on the wine list of Blu along with another 2 good wineries from Santorini - GAIA and SIGALAS. Assyrtiko from Santorini is definitely worth trying out and I see their price (for Santorini wines) are quite reasonable at around 2.5-2.8 times of price in Santorini. I will be quite interested to try some Greek food and Greek wines at this place.
 
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regarding the tasting, we can see how it goes.

option 1 - shiraz/syrah blowout
option 2 - rhone varietals (white and red) [syrah, grenache, mouvedre, marsanne, rousanne, viognier, carignan, cinsault, clairette, grenache blanc...etc)
option 3 - shiraz/syrah and random whites

any more suggestions?[/QUOTE]

I vote for Option 1 and 2, making it a Shiraz or Shiraz blended event; reason being too much Shiraz might be too heavy (agree), but dun quite like mixing whites with reds either..
 

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So you can either bring a 100% syrah/shiraz from anywhere in the world or a white wine made from white rhone varietals?

Everyone ok with that? We probably have to set how many reds and whites there should be, after we know how many peeps there are.
 

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Will prefer all Syrah/Shiraz or with few whites to start as aperitif b4 moving to big red. I can bring either an old world Syrah or New world Shiraz but we should have good mix of both.
 

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I'm cool with that. But do u want the starting whites to stick to white rhone varietals?
 

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Cool so I will set it as a following:

White Rhone & Syrah/Shiraz Session
Starter whites: Must be a white wine from any country but made from Rhone varietals

Reds: 100% Shiraz/Syrah or at least 95% Syrah/Shiraz blend (ie: Cote Rotie adds about 5% viognier to their syrah).
Wines can be from anywhere in the world.
 
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