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So how did the tasting go?
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Pinot Noir Blind Tasting at Imperial Treasure Super Peking Duck, Paragon
Yeah, what an awesome night with great wines and great company
Aperitif to kick start the night:
2012 Elio Perrone Moscato d'Asti Sourgal
Pinot on blind:
2010 Faiveley Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Damodes - Burgundy, France
2008 Iron Horse Vineyards Pinot Noir Thomas Road Vineyard - Russian River Valley, US
2010 Hamilton Russell Pinot Noir Hemel-en-Aarde Valley - South Africa
2007 Tenuta Mazzolino Pinot Nero Oltrepò Pavese Noir - Italy
2008 Giant Steps Pinot Noir Gladysdale Vineyard - Yarra Valley, Australia
2007 Soter Pinot Noir Mineral Springs Ranch - Oregon, US
2004 Gerhard Markowitsch Pinot Noir Reserve - Carnuntum, Austria
2010 Doctors Flat Pinot Noir Doctors Flat Vineyard - Central Otago, NZ
Yeah, what an awesome night with great wines and great company
Aperitif to kick start the night:
2012 Elio Perrone Moscato d'Asti Sourgal
Pinot on blind:
2010 Faiveley Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Damodes - Burgundy, France
2008 Iron Horse Vineyards Pinot Noir Thomas Road Vineyard - Russian River Valley, US
2010 Hamilton Russell Pinot Noir Hemel-en-Aarde Valley - South Africa
2007 Tenuta Mazzolino Pinot Nero Oltrepò Pavese Noir - Italy
2008 Giant Steps Pinot Noir Gladysdale Vineyard - Yarra Valley, Australia
2007 Soter Pinot Noir Mineral Springs Ranch - Oregon, US
2004 Gerhard Markowitsch Pinot Noir Reserve - Carnuntum, Austria
2010 Doctors Flat Pinot Noir Doctors Flat Vineyard - Central Otago, NZ
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Yeah, what an awesome night with great wines and great company
Aperitif to kick start the night:
2012 Elio Perrone Moscato d'Asti Sourgal
Pinot on blind:
2010 Faiveley Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Damodes - Burgundy, France
2008 Iron Horse Vineyards Pinot Noir Thomas Road Vineyard - Russian River Valley, US
2010 Hamilton Russell Pinot Noir Hemel-en-Aarde Valley - South Africa
2007 Tenuta Mazzolino Pinot Nero Oltrepò Pavese Noir - Italy
2008 Giant Steps Pinot Noir Gladysdale Vineyard - Yarra Valley, Australia
2007 Soter Pinot Noir Mineral Springs Ranch - Oregon, US
2004 Gerhard Markowitsch Pinot Noir Reserve - Carnuntum, Austria
2010 Doctors Flat Pinot Noir Doctors Flat Vineyard - Central Otago, NZ
Alas I was flying out that day and missed yet another session. I see a good range in the list!
Where did the Soter come from? Read a bit about Oregon Pinot but never had the opportunity to try. Available locally?
How was Gerhard? I tried Juris, another Austrian Pinot a couple years back in the last Wine Fiesta. Enjoyed it much but unfortunately it is not available locally, and they didn't have any for sale. Where did it come from?
hey guys! time to revive this thread!
It's been a while since any new info has been put up online.
Just some updates:
1) With one of my groups we are having a Riesling blind tasting next Sunday with dim sum. The riesling can be from anywhere in the world so it should interesting. One of the group members is a local importer that specializes in riesling.
Beautiful riesling grapes
Riesling is (in my opinion) the best white grape because it makes such profound wines and really reflect the regions and sub-region where it's from. it's made in a myriad of styles from dry to sweet and they age magnificently. Plus they're generally underpriced compared to other styles of wine. I recently had a very very good 04 German riesling in a restaurant for $60 and it was textured, complex and tasty.
Well made german rieslings can age very well
2) With the HWZ group, we are doing a tasting of one of our members personal italian wines they he brings in from Italy. It should be interesting! like a portfolio tasting! I will post a report and see if the moscatos and sweet wines are worth the deal!
Vineyards in the sub-region of Asti (that's where Moscato d'Asti comes from!)
3) A question for the rest of the forum: What are you excited to drink this last 2 months of 2013! And do you need any recommendations?
Aside from the sparklers and moscatos, I would recommend some cool climate aussie shiraz to pair with most pasta and meat dishes during your parties and gatherings. They're not overtly fruity but have balance and acidity to match with food. Because of the cool climate they have a freshness over the more overripe styles of shiraz.
Some easily available examples that around around $50 or under are:
- Shaw Smith Shiraz, Adelaide Hills (some CS and FP Finest, 1855)
- Knappstein Shiraz, Clare Valley (Culina)
- Clonakilla Hilltops Shiraz (1855 bottle shop)
- Tyrrell's Rufus Stone Shiraz (cold storage, FP Finest)
Clare Valley Vineyards
It's been a while since any new info has been put up online.
Just some updates:
1) With one of my groups we are having a Riesling blind tasting next Sunday with dim sum. The riesling can be from anywhere in the world so it should interesting. One of the group members is a local importer that specializes in riesling.
Beautiful riesling grapes
Riesling is (in my opinion) the best white grape because it makes such profound wines and really reflect the regions and sub-region where it's from. it's made in a myriad of styles from dry to sweet and they age magnificently. Plus they're generally underpriced compared to other styles of wine. I recently had a very very good 04 German riesling in a restaurant for $60 and it was textured, complex and tasty.
Well made german rieslings can age very well
2) With the HWZ group, we are doing a tasting of one of our members personal italian wines they he brings in from Italy. It should be interesting! like a portfolio tasting! I will post a report and see if the moscatos and sweet wines are worth the deal!
Vineyards in the sub-region of Asti (that's where Moscato d'Asti comes from!)
3) A question for the rest of the forum: What are you excited to drink this last 2 months of 2013! And do you need any recommendations?
Aside from the sparklers and moscatos, I would recommend some cool climate aussie shiraz to pair with most pasta and meat dishes during your parties and gatherings. They're not overtly fruity but have balance and acidity to match with food. Because of the cool climate they have a freshness over the more overripe styles of shiraz.
Some easily available examples that around around $50 or under are:
- Shaw Smith Shiraz, Adelaide Hills (some CS and FP Finest, 1855)
- Knappstein Shiraz, Clare Valley (Culina)
- Clonakilla Hilltops Shiraz (1855 bottle shop)
- Tyrrell's Rufus Stone Shiraz (cold storage, FP Finest)
Clare Valley Vineyards
As a "different" sweet wine, you can try you can try the Recioto della Valpolicella. It's a sweet red which is basically the Amarone with the fermentation incomplete - so it is quite a big full red that is sweet. Nice with chocolates and cheeses. Not good with description, but the closest comparisons (in terms of types) I can think of are Madeiras and Ports, but the Recioto is very much still a wine (without fortification).
Don't think it's too common / popular in Singapore so I'm not sure which vineyard would be brought in. My experience with it was recently in the Veneto region (where it is "native") and they were generally good. The one that really stood out was from a small family run vineyard, Fratelli Vogadori, which was very good and a fraction of the price from the more commercial vineyard that we visited.
I am waiting for my shipment of the Amarone and Recioto to arrive (it's been taking forever) but it should get here in time for Christmas / New Year celebrations. The Amarone was very fruity and full-bodied with hints of chocolate - it was really good and only Eur29 a bottle for their top-line product (of course once shipping and duties are added in, the price does go up to about S$80-S$90 a bottle). Compared to the more commercial vineyards which were selling their stuff at about Eur50 for the normal stuff (which was perhaps comparable with the normal Amarone that was being sold at Eur19 at Vogadori).
Don't think it's too common / popular in Singapore so I'm not sure which vineyard would be brought in. My experience with it was recently in the Veneto region (where it is "native") and they were generally good. The one that really stood out was from a small family run vineyard, Fratelli Vogadori, which was very good and a fraction of the price from the more commercial vineyard that we visited.
I am waiting for my shipment of the Amarone and Recioto to arrive (it's been taking forever) but it should get here in time for Christmas / New Year celebrations. The Amarone was very fruity and full-bodied with hints of chocolate - it was really good and only Eur29 a bottle for their top-line product (of course once shipping and duties are added in, the price does go up to about S$80-S$90 a bottle). Compared to the more commercial vineyards which were selling their stuff at about Eur50 for the normal stuff (which was perhaps comparable with the normal Amarone that was being sold at Eur19 at Vogadori).
Yes Recioto is nice! Usually made from the extra ripe 'ears' of grape bunch that get most sunlight and air. The history of Recioto goes even further back than Amarone and IIRC it was when someone forgot and left the Recioto fermenting for too long till it became slightly dry that they discovered Amarone! And you are right, they go fantastically well with dark chocolate (~70%) as well as on their own. To me they are not oxidative style wines like Port, Madeiras or even Vin Santos and are capable of great complexity with aging in bottle and require some breathing in class. I'd like to think that it's closer to a dry red wine characteristic, compared to other dessert wines. This, of course, depends on the winemaker's style.
Recioto is a name from the local Venetian dialect and so refers to such apassimento styled wines from that area. There is also a Recioto di Soave, made from Garganega grapes from the Soave white wine region. Pieropan (sold here by ewineasia) sells a good Recioto di Soave. Sigh, that's Italian wines for you - so fascinating, so confusing and so many appellations, wines and grapes to consider!
I've not heard of Vogadori, but that's another thing about Italian wineries - so many little farmstead wineries, who probably don't have a marketer or try to travel overseas to market their wines, that there's always something to discover and a nice relationship to build thousands of miles away!
Yes Amarones and Reciotos are not cheap wines, as the drying up of grapes obviously reduces the moisture content, so sugars are concentrated but there is less juice to make into wine. There are the cult wineries of Quintarelli and Dal Forno that command jaw-dropping prices, but the good thing is there are many small producers as well as quality cooperatives producing excellent stuff at sane prices too. I got a Recioto from Domini Veneti, recommended by the nice uncle in a quaint wine shop in Verona for 20-30E IIRC. And that's a retail price, it should be cheaper at the cellar door.
Here are a few good Reciotos available in Singapore:
- Zenato Recioto, $50-$70 (Ponti Wine Cellars). Give it some breathing time and this is complex and quite amazing.
- Stefano Accordini Recioto ~$50 (Magnum/Wine Gallery)
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Recioto is a name from the local Venetian dialect and so refers to such apassimento styled wines from that area. There is also a Recioto di Soave, made from Garganega grapes from the Soave white wine region. Pieropan (sold here by ewineasia) sells a good Recioto di Soave. Sigh, that's Italian wines for you - so fascinating, so confusing and so many appellations, wines and grapes to consider!
I've not heard of Vogadori, but that's another thing about Italian wineries - so many little farmstead wineries, who probably don't have a marketer or try to travel overseas to market their wines, that there's always something to discover and a nice relationship to build thousands of miles away!
Yes Amarones and Reciotos are not cheap wines, as the drying up of grapes obviously reduces the moisture content, so sugars are concentrated but there is less juice to make into wine. There are the cult wineries of Quintarelli and Dal Forno that command jaw-dropping prices, but the good thing is there are many small producers as well as quality cooperatives producing excellent stuff at sane prices too. I got a Recioto from Domini Veneti, recommended by the nice uncle in a quaint wine shop in Verona for 20-30E IIRC. And that's a retail price, it should be cheaper at the cellar door.
Here are a few good Reciotos available in Singapore:
- Zenato Recioto, $50-$70 (Ponti Wine Cellars). Give it some breathing time and this is complex and quite amazing.
- Stefano Accordini Recioto ~$50 (Magnum/Wine Gallery)
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2001 Bodegas y Viñedos Alión Ribera del Duero, Spain, Castilla y León, Ribera del Duero - CellarTracker
Anyone tried Alion 2001 before? Been highly recommended by Andy Hayler (my favourite food critic) so I'm looking for a bottle to try.
Anyone tried Alion 2001 before? Been highly recommended by Andy Hayler (my favourite food critic) so I'm looking for a bottle to try.
Oh is that the MasterChefs Professional guy?
I've tried the Alion, it's very good. A few months ago we had a Spanish tasting where the Wine of the Night was a Pintia, from Toro. Both Alion (Ribero del Duero) and Pintia are under the Vega Sicilia Group, who make one of the most famous Spanish wines in the Vega Sicilia Unico.
You can find Alion at Caveau (Shaw Centre) or Crystal Wines (River Valley Rd), but they are currently selling the 2007 or 2008 vintages.
Thanks a lot! Yeah he was a guest judge IIRC, pretty famous food critic, he was (still is) the only guy to ever eat at all 100+ three-star Michelin restaurants globally within a single year. Has been doing this for awhile now.
Will head to Shaw Centre later in the evening. Many thanks again!
Monthly Wine Group Tasting.
The theme was Rieslings from all across the world but we got all from Germany except for an Austrian and Piedmontese Riesling. Surprisingly no Clare Valley or Alsatian stuff!
The wines were overall very good and it paired perfected with the vast array of dim sum dishes we had for lunch.
If you haven't already tried, Dim Sum + Riesling is a match made in heaven.
Dry Rieslings
2010 Schafer Frohlich Felsneck Riesling Trocken GG, Nahe
2011 Loimer Riesling, Kamptal
2011 Tenute Sella Renano, Piedmont
2011 Dr Loosen Gray Slate Riesling, Mosel
Semi-sweet Riesling
2009 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenur Kabinett
Sweet Riesling
2001 Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Rieslings Spatlese, Mosel-Saar-Ruwer
2004 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese, Mosel-Saar-Ruwer
1998 Stephen Ehlen Erdener Treppchen Riesling Auslese, Mosel Saar Ruwer
1995 Egon Muller Scharzhofberger Auslese, Mosel Saar Ruwer
There is a reason why great german rieslings by top producers across all sweetness levels are so remarkable, age-worthy and generally underpriced.
The theme was Rieslings from all across the world but we got all from Germany except for an Austrian and Piedmontese Riesling. Surprisingly no Clare Valley or Alsatian stuff!
The wines were overall very good and it paired perfected with the vast array of dim sum dishes we had for lunch.
If you haven't already tried, Dim Sum + Riesling is a match made in heaven.
Dry Rieslings
2010 Schafer Frohlich Felsneck Riesling Trocken GG, Nahe
2011 Loimer Riesling, Kamptal
2011 Tenute Sella Renano, Piedmont
2011 Dr Loosen Gray Slate Riesling, Mosel
Semi-sweet Riesling
2009 JJ Prum Wehlener Sonnenur Kabinett
Sweet Riesling
2001 Reichsgraf von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Rieslings Spatlese, Mosel-Saar-Ruwer
2004 Fritz Haag Brauneberger Juffer Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese, Mosel-Saar-Ruwer
1998 Stephen Ehlen Erdener Treppchen Riesling Auslese, Mosel Saar Ruwer
1995 Egon Muller Scharzhofberger Auslese, Mosel Saar Ruwer
There is a reason why great german rieslings by top producers across all sweetness levels are so remarkable, age-worthy and generally underpriced.
All rieslings are white wine, but not all white wines are rieslings. Hope that this does not confuse you (For example, all cats are animals, but not all animals are cats).
Rieslings is not a sweet white wine and goes well with most white meat.
white wine is a generic term for wine that is made from white grapes (usually). But as with all types of wine, there are many different varieties of white and red grapes. just like how there are different types of onions and potatoes etc...
riesling is just one type of grape. there are many many others like chardonnay grapes, sauvignon blanc grapes, pinot gris grapes etc...
Actually today there was a newspaper article on Sunday Lifestyle where they compared 4-5 sauvignon blancs (white wines). Most are above your $20 - $30 budget. but you can head to a Fairprice (preferably a Fairprice finest) and you can get the Crossings Sauvignon Blanc.
at that price range, you can pretty much pick up any australian sauvignon blanc. the quality levels don't vary that much in that price bracet.
it's very good but it's one of those wines that need time; at least a decade from vintage. singapore retail it's hard to find older vintages unless you get from private collections.
Ikileo as usual, the expert,
If let say raise to 30 to 40, what u recommemd?
now at ntuc normal, will hoot 1 or 2 immediate based on your recommendation
i can't remember all the wines at FP. maybe u can read back to me a few?
even for normal FP, they don't necessarily carry the same range depending on the size of the store.
there's the ashbrook ones that are popular. any more in front of u?
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