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Good day.
I have always been a brunello and amarone drinker, recently trying to venture into Spanish wine.
Experience has been limited to entry level rioja and priorat with brands like roda, baigorri, vega escal...

any good recommendations in the range of 50-100?
Thanks. :)
 

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i'm a spanish wine nut haha....

let me go home tonight and provide u more options when i get the time to write it all out.

you consider RODA to be entry level? their wines not cheap wor.
 

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Good morning folks.

I'm looking for a wine chiller to properly stash and collect my bottles. What should I be looking out for? For a start, I'm looking to store not more than 30 bottles at one time. Budget at 400-500$.

Are chillers with varying temperatures very expensive? It will be nice to keep my whites and beers at lower temperature than the reds.

Any recommendations?

not too sure about the price but KADEKA and BOSCH seem to fit into your requirements. they're available at major electrical chains and Parisilk as well.
make sure it's a compressor cooling system (like a refrigerator). the other kind (i forget the name) is another type of cooling system where the room it's in has to be cool in the first place; so it won't last long in the average non-air con household in sg.
 

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i'm a spanish wine nut haha....

let me go home tonight and provide u more options when i get the time to write it all out.

you consider RODA to be entry level? their wines not cheap wor.

I got it at sub-50sgd when I was in Germany for biz.
Bought 4 bottles back and paid sgd7 on tax in total.
In fact it was one of the better Rioja I had (at least to my taste).

TIA!
 

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I got it at sub-50sgd when I was in Germany for biz.
Bought 4 bottles back and paid sgd7 on tax in total.
In fact it was one of the better Rioja I had (at least to my taste).

TIA!

that quite affordable for RODA. but they have a wide range. RODA I? RODA II?

other producers available in SG that are good Muga and Marques de Murrieta. their top sparkling wine (cava) is Juve y Camps. You can get it at 1855 Bottle Shop or direct from their importer: Asian Wine Network.

An importer with a wide selection of spanish wines in Cellarmaster. you can drop them an email and buy from them as a private client.
 

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that quite affordable for RODA. but they have a wide range. RODA I? RODA II?

other producers available in SG that are good Muga and Marques de Murrieta. their top sparkling wine (cava) is Juve y Camps. You can get it at 1855 Bottle Shop or direct from their importer: Asian Wine Network.

An importer with a wide selection of spanish wines in Cellarmaster. you can drop them an email and buy from them as a private client.

I did see labels with RODA I that were ranging from 40euro. The one i bought was simply RODA.

Thanks for reference, will give it a try!
If you see worthy deals do give me a ping.
 

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I did see labels with RODA I that were ranging from 40euro. The one i bought was simply RODA.

Thanks for reference, will give it a try!
If you see worthy deals do give me a ping.

oh yeah RODA is then their entry level stuff. their RODA I Reserva, RODA II Reserva and their top flight Cirsion climbs up in prices but they're very good.

u can actually head to the Isetan Supermarket in Westgate Mall as they stock a decent range of spanish wines compared to many other places. most of the wines are from Cellarmaster.

oh I forgot, another very good producer is La Rioja Alta. traditional rioja producer. Isetan carries some of them. their higher range of Gran Reserva 904 is very good and ageworthy. Their latest release is 2001 as traditional rioja wines release their wines to market with many years on them but they will keep for another several decades.
 

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.Opened this for Valentine's day. Still a bit young . Dense, very long. Can see why it got a good rating on WA.


 

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How about some french wine? Anyone?

Came across this Barons De Rothschild (Lafite) Reserve Speciale (2010) - Pauillac

Wine shifu any comments on the above ;)
 

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oh yeah RODA is then their entry level stuff. their RODA I Reserva, RODA II Reserva and their top flight Cirsion climbs up in prices but they're very good.

u can actually head to the Isetan Supermarket in Westgate Mall as they stock a decent range of spanish wines compared to many other places. most of the wines are from Cellarmaster.

oh I forgot, another very good producer is La Rioja Alta. traditional rioja producer. Isetan carries some of them. their higher range of Gran Reserva 904 is very good and ageworthy. Their latest release is 2001 as traditional rioja wines release their wines to market with many years on them but they will keep for another several decades.

Went through Cellarmaster's website and gone down to Isetan during weekend, realized the prices weren't exactly friendly when compared to Wine-searcher. (I normally restrict myself from paying more than 1.5x off wine-searcher)

Will probably hold-on to my purchase until I travel to Germany early next month, in hope of getting some good deals on those labels which you have recommended. :)
 

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How about some french wine? Anyone?

Came across this Barons De Rothschild (Lafite) Reserve Speciale (2010) - Pauillac

Wine shifu any comments on the above ;)

I am no shifu but this was the exact same wine I bought (albeit 2009 vintage) when I first ventured into wine drinking. (obviously misled by the label and brand name).
I paid close to 70sgd back then and is still one of my biggest regret.
With that price I could easily get 2-3x better wine. :)
 

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I am no shifu but this was the exact same wine I bought (albeit 2009 vintage) when I first ventured into wine drinking. (obviously misled by the label and brand name).
I paid close to 70sgd back then and is still one of my biggest regret.
With that price I could easily get 2-3x better wine. :)

Oh.. really. Which means this is not the "real" lafite.. lolx..

How do you find the taste of this?
 

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15 Feb 2014 - HWZ Wine Thread Feb Lunch: Raid ikileo's Cellar theme

8 of us gathered at Asia Grand for Dim Sum and Peking Duck and I pulled out 6 bottles of wine from my personal collection to drink and taste blind. This is a change from our thematic tasting to instead see what each of us are collection. We will be carrying out more of these throughout the year.

As usual food was great and the wines overall tasted pretty good.

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Line-up of wines (L-R): Champagne, German Riesling, Italian Merlot blend, Australian Almost-Bordeaux Blend, Australia Shiraz, German Riesling

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2008 Pierre Paillard Champagne Blanc de Blancs Grand Cru Acte 1 "Les Mottelettes" - The 2nd year into Pierre Paillard's 'Act 1' project this is a 100% chardonnay champagne (champagne is made from a blend of chardonnay, pinot noir & pinot meunier). The village of Bouzy, where this producer resides in in known for their Pinot Noir but they are also know for making stunning chardonnay based champagnes as well, hence this 100% blanc de blancs is testament to their skill with chardonnay. Started off delicate, with lots of acid and builds rounded weight in the mouth. Flinty and smokey nose which opens up to citrus and bready notes.

Taken from site: Single 1,5-acre plot planted with Chardonnay in 1961, located in the heart of our Grand Cru Bouzy vineyards.
«Mother plot» of our own vineyards, «Les Motellettes» are used for replanting our plots, according to the so-called «sélection massale». We thus perpetuate the work of our ancestors and protect the genetic identity of the Pierre Paillard vineyards, a guarantee of the House style.
Basically a single vineyard blanc de blancs


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2007 Schlossgut Diel Dorsheimer Goldloch Riesling Kabinett - Schlossgut Diel is the pre-eminent producer in the Nahe region of Germany. most of the famous german rieslings come from the mosel region but the owner Armin Diel has made his Nahe estate wines to match the best that Mosel can offer.

Don't mind the long label name: Schlossgut Diel is just the name of the producer/estate. Dorshiemer Goldloch are the names of the vineyards that he harvests the grapes from as each plot has their own character. Kabinett is part of a German grading system (not so much based on quality) but on the ripeness level. Kabinett wines are usually the bulk of the main harvest while other grades like Spatlese, Auslese, Trokenbeerenauslese etc... grow in sweetness.

This is his Kabinett bottling usually meant for early drinking but at 7 years old, this was still drinking incredibly fresh and vibrant and could go easily for another 5-7 years. Slightly off dry with some residual sugar, this went with a range of dim sum dishes very well. Riesling & dim sum pairing always works.


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1997 Valdipiatta Trincerone Toscana IGT - an old tuscan red wine. I brought this to test it out but too bad it was too old and past it's prime. this would have been an interesting wine, a blend of Merlot and a traditional italian blending grape called Canaiolo.


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2005 Lake's Folly Cabernets - I have been holding on to this bottle for almost 4 years as I knew this needed time to mature. at 9 years old this was drinking very beautifully. a lean and lighter style with lots of elegance which many people thought it was a bordeaux. it is almost a bordeaux as it does have the permitted grapes in bordeaux wines: Cabernet Sauvignon, Petit Verdot and Merlot. But this being an aussie wine, it had 8% of shiraz thrown in.

It's called Lake's Folly because this hunter valley estate's owner, Dr Max Lake many many years ago planted cabernet in the hunter valley when everyone was planting shiraz; hence it was Lake's Folly to plant cabernet. but this has been one of the hidden gems and red wine legends in hunter valley that only the winos really looks for. A delicious dead ringer for a beautiful bordeaux. Will easily last another 10 years.







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2001 Gemtree Vineyards Shiraz Uncut - A bought this at a small shop in Holland Village shopping centre which stocks quite a bit of older aussie wines. This was their last bottle and it was quite a steal at under $50. 2001 was a spectacular year in McLaren Vale in australia. Their shiraz generally are more masculine and rich and this was no different. At 13 years old this was still packing fruit which you can imagine how explosive the fruit was when it was just released. But now it has softened with still enough structure and richness and secondary flavours with lots of coffee and chocolate note. This is the stuff you want to drink with stews and richer foods. This is one of their top shiraz.


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2006 Markus Molitor Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Riesling Auslese ** - Another German riesling. This is from the Mosel region and from the vineyards of Zeltinger and Sonnenuhr. Auslese means the sugar levels were of a specific higher level upon harvest. For this producer he uses stars * to indicate the level of sweetness. This was sweet but it wasn't coying and it had a lot of purity of fruit. Very classy and elegance with some precision in the flavour.

This wine I bought direct from the winery and had it delivered to my friend in Germany. When she came to visit me in SG a year later she brought it with her. These wines can easily last another 1-2 decades.
 

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gem tree is getting very popular these days.
a frd of a frd is working there

when i was at the wine festival last sun (i taste until i nearly puke my guts out :s34:), i found a few good smooth light shiraz. .

Gemtree is one of themn, their 2009 uncut bot is not bad.

Have u tried dogridge? i am totally bought over by them, their GOBN and MVP series. I would have to say MVP shiraz is very pricely, 65$ aud per bot.
Their fortifed vognier was interesting. i actually bought 1. this was the first time i taste a chinese thick tea after taste :s13: for a dessert wine. That was enough for me to buy.

i wud go for $40aud GOBN, Old grand New Brand. 2012.

Dead arm 2009 was a serious let down. on the other hand laughing magpie (D'artenberg) was fantastic for a steal $25. the aroma was very strong, full of berries. for a young shiraz it went down very smooth.

unfortunately all the white taste sour to me :sad:

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penfold st henri was nice but too over price at 100sgd
 
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a 2009 dead arm is far to young too be drunk now. let it sit for another 10 years at least before attempting.

the magpies and other of their lower range are meant for you to drink while you wait for the dead arm to mature.
 

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a 2009 dead arm is far to young too be drunk now. let it sit for another 10 years at least before attempting.

the magpies and other of their lower range are meant for you to drink while you wait for the dead arm to mature.
need to have a storage fridge for that to happen. even then, maybe I am too noob to even detect the 08's potential.
 

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yeah for these young flagship wines that need aging, if you're gonna taste them in their youth you should decant them for several hours before approaching them. so that you can a sense of where they are and what they could be in several years time.

if u no wine fridge to hold and most of your wines you buy are consumed within the year then it's best to stick to mid-priced wines or flagship wines that are already aged; if you can source for them.
 

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oh no, the dead arm I tried has been decanted for an hour at least.

but none of our clinque can see its potential at all. it taste bitter

it is high level of tannins most likely. i drank a 98 last year and it was very well integrated. in their youth you need several hours of decanting, one is usually insufficient.
 

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well, I can only say at least, cos it was a wine convention event where people pay to taste.

If that's the case, the cellar isn't doing enough to sell the wine.

The difference between 08 dead arm and 09 is way to far. 1 year apart shouldn't make that huge difference.

there's bottle variation
there's vintage variation
it could be in a dumb/shut-down phase
were all aerated in the same manner and duration?
there's also stylistic winemaking differences across vintages.

in recent vintages, dead arm has been moving towards a more medium bodied, structure, elegant style of shiraz versus their previously popular style of explosive fruit. the tannins would definitely be more prominent in modern styles. and if u taste these tannic wines side-by-side with more explosive fruit forward shiraz, they will no doubt taste more astringent and bitter.

the 09 was very good year and 09 dead arm has shown well across professional and consumer reviews. the 2008 vintage in mclaren vale experienced a record heat wave which no doubt accelerated the ripening and sugar levels of the fruit, hence you can taste that different.

vintage weather variation plays a big part and the differences can be seen quite clearly even if it's a year difference. you can try a 2002 and a 2003 vintages of the same label of a decent bordeaux wine side by side; the difference is very distinct as the weather in 2002 vs 2003 in bordeaux was very different.

wine is still an agricultural product and it's soil/climate variation plays a big part.
 
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