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thanks for the list. i will be saving my money for the sherry!

staryhappy21, would you like to hop on the sherry wagon and grab a couple for yourself?
 

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Yes, I would like to have a bottle of the NV Jerez East India Solera and a bottle of the NV Manzanilla Papirusa.

Thank you!
 

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Haha no storage is good! Forced to keep wallet in the pocket. Those with extra storage tend to fill it up too quickly and run out of space too sooner rather than later!
 

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Haha no storage is good! Forced to keep wallet in the pocket. Those with extra storage tend to fill it up too quickly and run out of space too sooner rather than later!

Very true indeed!
I'm so glad my wine fridge at home is almost always full!
 

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hey guys, i have sent the order for the sherry. i will update u on payment once i have paid the distributor. stocks are available immediately so i'll deliver it to my place then pass it out during our next session.
 

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any vino plans this evening and weekend?

i am going to Wine Connection for dinner later this evening in town. Haven't been there in a while.
 

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Yeah I will be having a wine dinner with fellow wines kakis at Jade Palace at Forum this evening. In this dinner we will share the cost of food and wines. That's how I get to try some fine wines.
 

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guess i will babykill one of my bordeaux red (2008) tonite, so that i can make space for the delivery of 8 bottles from WEA tomorrow, hehe... intend to drink the red with some light titbit while i am going through some paperworks, and pair with some music too!

btw, i picked up these 3 bottles from enoteca last wk at 19% discount last sat -
2009 Grant Burge Cabernet Sauvignon Corryton Park
2007 Cerbaiona (Molinari) Rosso Toscana IGT
2009 Barda Pinot Noir (this was drunk right away last sat, pretty good perfumed nose, very well made pinot. this is the 2nd bottle i tried and i like it a lot!)

hope we have a great wkend ahead & enjoy our juices too!
 

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Yeah, I was at Enoteca in midweek at there was no more discount.
Hope you enjoy the Cerbaiona Rosso, I liked it during the store tasting.
The owner/winemaker, the retired pilot Diego Molinari, is another typically stubborn and traditional Italian character.
Here are some nuggets:

"I look after the vineyards myself, with a couple of Romanians. I made myself a peasant. I also look after the wine - no barriques, no chemicals, very little control; just grow the grapes, ferment them and age the wine in Slavonian botti. There's nothing else to it."

They also say his estate is one of a select group in Italy not to provide a spittoon for visiting journalists, with Gianfranco Soldera and Giuseppa Quintarelli. Maybe like Soldera, he believes 'you only spit bad wine'.

Funny that both the Cerbaiona and Soldera Case Basse wines are the most expensive Brunellos I know of!

I'll be having a gathering of friends and their WAGs at my place, cooking some simple stuff and hopefully down some of the bargain wines I got from Auric.

Looking forward to hearing other winekaki bros' updates/reports!
 
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i had a tasting of Soldera at an enoteca while in Italy. Amazing stuff.

last night didn't get to drink wine in the end. ended up with some draft sapporo beer. I keep forgetting how much i hate Orchard Road on friday night.

It's my fault that i came late about 7.45pm, wanted to arrive earlier but was caught at work. Wine Connection was packed to max with like 70% white people, which u know they will chill and drink and stay for the next 3-4 hours. Plus the waitresses and service staff looked overwhelmed to the extent that they didn't really care about those who were waiting to get a seat. Bad service really turns people off.

Went to Orchard Central instead and everyday was also crowded *grrr*. Settled on Tonkichi which had the shortest queue. The staff were clearly busy but at least the service staff still provided me good service despite the rush. Unfortunately their corkage had increased since the last time (2-3 years ago).

still looking for my Vino fix this weekend.zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 

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@looiwte- tx for the interesting note for Cerbiona. Didn't know anything abt this bottle, I jus bought it upon the recommendation of staff. Will try it soon!

@ikileo - tts reason why I always head straight home on Friday nite! Can't remember when was my last Friday nite-out...
 

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Hello guys, i am new to this wine thingy. can anyone enlighten if these wine are consider good wine? Thanks.

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I just opened a bottle of Bordeaux Superieur as above.

The wine color is constant brilliant red, easy to drink, and have a good "mint" alcohol after taste. Having said so, i am not sure what are consider a good drink.

Can anyone enlighten me. I feel it is better than some i drank so far. But i dun buy expensive drink anyway.

:)
 
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I just opened a bottle of Bordeaux Superieur as above.

The wine color is constant brilliant red, easy to drink, and have a good "mint" alcohol after taste. Having said so, i am not sure what are consider a good drink.

Can anyone enlighten me. I feel it is better than some i drank so far. But i dun buy expensive drink anyway.

:)

the most important thing is that u enjoyed the wine. as with most things in life, it's all subject to your personal palate. at the same time, always try different types of wine to see which style of wine u like.

and as u go on our wine journey, over the years your palate will change. some years u will prefer full bodied rich wines, or sweet wines or drier types or cooler climate types. it's a fun journey.

specifically for your wines, it's good that u enjoyed it. for me 'mint' is ok. some wines have a herbaceous minty flavour. but tasting the 'alcohol' is never a good aspect of a wine in my opinion. it should not burn nor should i be able to taste or smell the alcohol in the wine. If i do, it an indication that the wine was not made properly or not stored properly.

u should try different types of wine to figure out what u like. so everytime u go to the supermarket or a wine store, try to pick a wine you've never had before or from a country you've ever had before. This way you will expand your palate and get to experience a wine range of wine styles.
 

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20th Oct Session *update*

ikileo +1
ikileo friend (+1?)
hkm
looiwte
starhappy21
secret agent
funkster

Tentative
condor
Matchy
niefeng80
Lss

Please let me know if any of you guys are bringing a +1?
 

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hey, glad to see your reply. It really a lot of help to me. :) can you further enlighten me why burning is not so good? Also, if we try different bottle, we will taste different taste, and we might not know what are the better one? Seriously, they all taste so same or different that i really cant tell the "good" or "bad".
 
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hey, glad to see your reply. It really a lot of help to me. :) can you further enlighten me why burning is not so good? Also, if we try different bottle, we will taste different taste, and we might not know what are the better one? Seriously, they all taste so same or different that i really cant tell the "good" or "bad".


ok so u got a couple of questions:

Alcohol burning:
Wine is different of other alcoholic drinks like vodka or tequila etc. it's not supposed to burn. if it burns or when u smell u get a shot of burning alcohol up your nose it means the wine is not balanced. and that means during the wine making process the winemaker didn't balance it with the other aromas and the alcohol is not integrated into the wine.

sometimes this occurs when the bottle is not stored properly also, like in warm places etc. some wines after decanting or airing, the alcoholic notes will blow away and that's fine. some wines don't. in a good wine you should be able to taste the different flavours of the wine like fruits or earthy notes etc.

The key components to wine's description:

- Smell: the aromas of the wine, ie: various fruits, oak, ocean spray, soy sauce, herbs etc...

- Flavour: similar to a wine, the flavour of a good wine is that it's balanced and the flavours change in your mouth and it lingers even after swallowing

- Body: basically the mouthfeel of the wine. depending on the varietal, region and vintage, wines range from light bodied to heavy bodied wines. heavier thicker richer red wines like a young cabernet or a young aussie shiraz tend to be heavy bodied. While a pinot noir from burgundy tend to be more light bodied or medium bodied.

- Acidity: acidity in a wine helps to balance out the flavours. if a wine has no acid, it becomes too rich and too heavy and syrupy. acidity helps keep the wine balanced and light on it's feet.

- Tannins (for reds): tannins are the compounds in a red wine that leaves a drying feeling in your mouth and makes your lips pucker. tannins are naturally found in the grape skins and seeds, they help to prolong the life of the wine. wines that tend to age better have quite a bit of tannins. a lot of people don't like tannins because it's too drying, but that's usually because they don't give the wine time to breathe and decant. When you decant it, the tannins soften and will be less harsh. as wines age longer, the tannins will integrate and soften as well. a young bordeaux (2009) will taste very different from a 10 year old or a 20 or 30 year old one.




You other point was about trying other bottles and may not be able to taste the difference. It all comes down to palate training. The easiest way of training is having several wines lined up and you taste them in succession. When you taste them one after another, the differences between them can get very obvious.

For example the wine session we are organizing end of next week, it's all shiraz/syrah wines. but people will be bringing bottles made from shiraz/syrah grapes from various countries. because of the regions, climate, vintage etc, even if it's the same grape, there will be differences in flavour; and when u taste them side by side, it will be very obvious.

you can do it with a friend or a group of friends. the basic would be to get two wines made from the same grape from 2 different regions and just taste them side by side. or even 2 bordeaux wines from the same year but different producer, they will also taste different when you compare them side by side.

you should try it!
 

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20th Oct Session *update*

ikileo +1
ikileo friend (+1?)
hkm
looiwte
starhappy21
secret agent
funkster

Tentative
condor
Matchy
niefeng80
Lss

Please let me know if any of you guys are bringing a +1?


any updates from you guys; and we should start to arrange who will be bringing the rhone whites.
 
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