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u should see out Artisan Cellars (you can google them) and check out their NZ selection. very good producers that you won't really see in the mainstream. very pure styles of NZ rieslings that he brings in.
 

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Found this scale
http://www.starchefs.com/wine/features/html/riesling_revealed/index.shtml

The Riesling Sweetness Scale

Dry: Does not exceed a 1:1 ratio of acid to sugar

Medium-Dry: Has approximately a 1:2 ratio of acid to sugar

Medium-Sweet: Has an acid to sugar ratio of 1:2.1 to 1:4

Sweet: Acid to sugar of 1:4.1 or more

So based on the above Waipara Hills Riesling, the ratio is between 1 to 2 for acidity to residual sugar. Hence for me it is already sweet and anymore sweeter I think it is dessert wine to me.
 

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hence for me it was at the sweeter end of off dry because we can't call it a dessert wine yet.
but most importantly is that you enjoyed it :)
 

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Anyone attended the tasting of mature burgundy masterclass during the epicurean event?
It was a nice experience of trying out good old bottles of vintage burgs.

I also tried out the KOT selection library flight tasting, which was good as well.
 
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i didn't attend but whenever you spot these sessions, it's usually worth to attend so you can expose your palate to more aged wines and see for yourselves the evolution of wine.

from there you can also understand your palate whether you generally enjoy aged wines, young wines or anything in between.
 

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Can you share your favourite iOS app for wine shopping / research?

I for one need some help on vintage and which year can buy and when can drink etc

Thx!
 

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Can you share your favourite iOS app for wine shopping / research?

I for one need some help on vintage and which year can buy and when can drink etc

Thx!

For the start i have been using wine searcher and cellar tracker.
Both are free.
 

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yes CT and WS are good.

that being said, always take drinking windows with a pinch of salt.
 

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Tasting Guide from Wine Enthusiast is pretty good.

I found out that most French reds are not ready to be drink now until 2017-2018 timing for vintages 2010-2013. Do you guys follow that guideline or just drink? I just bought a few french reds (<50$) and they are 2012 area.

THx
 

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Tasting Guide from Wine Enthusiast is pretty good.

I found out that most French reds are not ready to be drink now until 2017-2018 timing for vintages 2010-2013. Do you guys follow that guideline or just drink? I just bought a few french reds (<50$) and they are 2012 area.

THx

It depends on what kind of French reds you have. And also most importantly your drinking preference. If you like to drink your wine young, then by all means. For myself, generally i prefer mature wines but most of the time i still drink them far too early.

Generally those lesser "value" reds are usually meant to be drunk earlier upon release. And also a decanter is good to have to decant those young wines which you want to taste earlier.
 

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Tasting Guide from Wine Enthusiast is pretty good.

I found out that most French reds are not ready to be drink now until 2017-2018 timing for vintages 2010-2013. Do you guys follow that guideline or just drink? I just bought a few french reds (<50$) and they are 2012 area.

THx

like what Wardyn said. there is a huge variance in wines in any country or region.

That being said a guide is a good way to start your way into wine; i did the same when a family friend handed me Hugh Johnson's Pocket Guide to Wine before I left for exchange in Europe and it was a really good way to be introduced to who are the reliable producers in specific regions and what vintages are good.

but remember a guide is a just a guide, feel free to venture beyond the guide and try drinking wines earlier or later than the recommended drinking window.


Specifically for your French Reds, there is so much variance in region, sub-region, producer and vintage so having a generic wide ranging drinking window is not going to help you.

I would suggest you select a region/subregion and thereafter read who are the good producers and which vintages are good and the estimated drinking windows for that specific bottling.

Drinking windows are estimates at best and it would vary from person to person, how the wine was stored, the style of the winemaker etc... some people prefer to drink wines young, some prefer it to have the really aged taste and others like everything in between.

A good way to explore this is to buy more than 1 bottle of the same bottle. Drink one now and the other on a much later date. Or attend tasting sessions that let you taste vertical, basically the same wine but across different vintages. it will be incredibly clear how vintages affect wines when you taste them side by side.

In summary:
- Tasting Guides are guides at best
- Drinking Windows are estimates which depend on a person's preference & judgement
- To start pick a specific region and read up to understand the vintages
- If possible purchase more than one bottle of a wine and taste it on separate occasions

Share with us what French wines you bought? and perhaps you can tell us about the region they are from; there's loads of info on wine regions online. :)
 

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like what Wardyn said. there is a huge variance in wines in any country or region.

That being said a guide is a good way to start your way into wine; i did the same when a family friend handed me Hugh Johnson's Pocket Guide to Wine before I left for exchange in Europe and it was a really good way to be introduced to who are the reliable producers in specific regions and what vintages are good.

but remember a guide is a just a guide, feel free to venture beyond the guide and try drinking wines earlier or later than the recommended drinking window.


Specifically for your French Reds, there is so much variance in region, sub-region, producer and vintage so having a generic wide ranging drinking window is not going to help you.

I would suggest you select a region/subregion and thereafter read who are the good producers and which vintages are good and the estimated drinking windows for that specific bottling.

Drinking windows are estimates at best and it would vary from person to person, how the wine was stored, the style of the winemaker etc... some people prefer to drink wines young, some prefer it to have the really aged taste and others like everything in between.

A good way to explore this is to buy more than 1 bottle of the same bottle. Drink one now and the other on a much later date. Or attend tasting sessions that let you taste vertical, basically the same wine but across different vintages. it will be incredibly clear how vintages affect wines when you taste them side by side.

In summary:
- Tasting Guides are guides at best
- Drinking Windows are estimates which depend on a person's preference & judgement
- To start pick a specific region and read up to understand the vintages
- If possible purchase more than one bottle of a wine and taste it on separate occasions

Share with us what French wines you bought? and perhaps you can tell us about the region they are from; there's loads of info on wine regions online. :)

I would say, one way to use a guide, is to find an author whose notes are what you preference agrees to.

For the same reason, some people like Robert Parker and there are people who don't. And those who don't like Parker, might like someone else who shares the same preference. So no harm reading through the notes from various critics and find one you like.

Save you time and money from drinking wines you don't like.
 

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The french wines, which are all different regions, are:

- Chateau Lagrezette, 2009 , Cahors, South West France
- Henry Fessy, 2010, Beaujolais Villages, Beaujolais
- Chateau Croix Mouton, 2012, Bordeaux Superieur

Thanks
 

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The french wines, which are all different regions, are:

- Chateau Lagrezette, 2009 , Cahors, South West France
- Henry Fessy, 2010, Beaujolais Villages, Beaujolais
- Chateau Croix Mouton, 2012, Bordeaux Superieur

Thanks

thanks for this.

so you should pick cahors and beaujolais first and wiki them or something. they are quite different in location, climate and grapes.

cahors is the traditional home for the malbec grape, while beaujolais is the traditional home for the gamay grape. both of which are very distinct and different styles of wine.

that being said, all of them can be drunk now already. these aren't really meant to age except perhaps the cahors which can benefit from some short term ageing. (2-4 years)
 

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The french wines, which are all different regions, are:

- Chateau Lagrezette, 2009 , Cahors, South West France
- Henry Fessy, 2010, Beaujolais Villages, Beaujolais
- Chateau Croix Mouton, 2012, Bordeaux Superieur

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I would drink the Beaujolais 2010 first and not wait any longer.
Both the Bordeaux and Carhors can be drunk already but may still benefit with some short term ageing.
 
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Thanks Guys

I purposely buy 3 different french red to see what I like. Would be looking to add a light bodied pinot noir from burgundy to the mix.
 

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Thanks Guys

I purposely buy 3 different french red to see what I like. Would be looking to add a light bodied pinot noir from burgundy to the mix.

If you are looking into pinot noir, then you might want to taste them from different parts of Burgundy. Just a village level appellation will be enough to demonstrate the uniqueness. (But of course Grand Cru if you can afford :s13:)
 

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If you are looking into pinot noir, then you might want to taste them from different parts of Burgundy. Just a village level appellation will be enough to demonstrate the uniqueness. (But of course Grand Cru if you can afford :s13:)

Yes some french ulu sembawang kampung level can liao...Haha
 

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I'm interested to get some red wines for weight loss purpose. Of course I know diet and exercise are the key factors, but it'll still be great to enjoy wine and burn fats at the same time.

http://winefolly.com/update/one-red-wine-linked-weight-loss/

For this article, they recommended red wines with ellagic acid

Red Muscadine (aka “Scuppernong”)
Ellagic acid isn’t found in other V. vinifera wine grapes (e.g. Cabernet Sauvignon, Malbec etc)
Ellagic acid is found in oak-aged wines (any type) as ellagitannin.
Ellagitannin increases with each year of oak aging
Fermentation increases ellagic acid levels in Scuppernong/Muscadine grape juice


Anyone can teach me how to tell what type of grapes each wine is made of?
Any wines to recommend that fit the above?
 
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