Wireless bluetooth EAR BUDS recommendations

[Alexz_Hong]

For me the audio stutter or connection dropouts don't really happen while jogging (probably because I jog in a park). But if I'm walking around, I find that if I'm near a traffic light or cars, there will be some dropouts. For me my experience is that QCC3020 doesn't really have the strongest connection, maybe because it's built to be more power efficient instead.

For me I've never had issues with most TWS dropping out while jogging actually. Some will loosen a little, some will cause more thinking sound from footsteps, but never drop out before. Haha. Blessed with good ear shape maybe.

Maybe you can check this review.

https://www.scarbir.com/tws/haylou-gt1-plus-review

It seems that haylou gt1 plus have some connection drops.


But what is more impressive is you can actually make your redmi airdots stay in your ear during running? They are not exactly made for sports right?

I tried running with my similarly designed truedots but they keep dropping out of my ears.

 

[Project_Xco]

For me the audio stutter or connection dropouts don't really happen while jogging (probably because I jog in a park). But if I'm walking around, I find that if I'm near a traffic light or cars, there will be some dropouts. For me my experience is that QCC3020 doesn't really have the strongest connection, maybe because it's built to be more power efficient instead.

For me I've never had issues with most TWS dropping out while jogging actually. Some will loosen a little, some will cause more thinking sound from footsteps, but never drop out before. Haha. Blessed with good ear shape maybe.

What really cause the dropouts? Is it magnetic interference or something else?

 

[kazuki666]

Anyway, on the topic of earbuds dropping out of ears. Personally I notice when I move my jaws, for example chewing food, yawning, earbuds tend to loosen.

 

[Alexz_Hong]

What really cause the dropouts? Is it magnetic interference or something else?

It could be. IIRC, Bluetooth operates at 2.4GHz, which A LOT of devices uses too, and can be interfered rather easily. Like for example I have a logitech wireless mouse that uses 2.4GHz, and just by inserting a USB 3.0 HDD near the mouse's USB adapter causes interference and dropouts in the signal. Same for targus BT mouse that I have if the HDD is plugged into a USB-A USB 3.0 port on my desktop. Apparently even USB 3.0 can interfere with 2.4GHz devices. lol.

https://www.intel.sg/content/www/xa...al-bus/usb3-frequency-interference-paper.html

I think that is probably what's interfering with the signal? Something that puts out a lot of noise in the 2.4GHz spectrum? At least that's what I understand from it la. And my guess is that the button where you press for the traffic lights has something like that in it cause i've noticed dropouts when i'm near those a few times already. haha

Not sure if it's placebo too, but I've noticed (or think that) some devices perform worse in terms of BT compared to others. Like the Google Pixel lineup in general seems rather meh. haha.

Anyway, on the topic of earbuds dropping out of ears. Personally I notice when I move my jaws, for example chewing food, yawning, earbuds tend to loosen.

opening the jaw typically opens up the ear canals a little as well if i'm not mistaken. like if you're tried wearing deep insertion IEMs from Etymotics for example, it's a little easier to insert when your jaw is slightly slack. That could be the reason.

 

[blueday977]

Is liberty 2 pro still a good buy now?

Think shopee if consider cashback and everything is around $165.

Lazada will have sale soon and guessing after cc + shop discount prolly around 150-170ish

 

[justln]

Is liberty 2 pro still a good buy now?

Think shopee if consider cashback and everything is around $165.

Lazada will have sale soon and guessing after cc + shop discount prolly around 150-170ish

It's good but got minor white noise issue, good sound, connection and battery life.

I rather top up buy Sony WF-1000XM3 cause of the activenoise cancelling, but no IPX rating so not sweatproof, should be below $200 during sale + cashback everything.

 

[allanzzz]

Actually what is meant by the fiil t1x in chinese?
Cannot be the songs they translate in chinese real time right?

When do we get to hear chinese through the fiil t1x?
Change song and it says next in chinese or?

 

[kazuki666]

Ask you all for recommendations. I am looking for cheap cheap Bluetooth earphones

• $30-$40
• true wireless. Switch between left and right side instantly with no lags
• can control volume on the earphone

What options are there?

If minus volume control function, what's the best buy can get for $30?
Preferably still able to switch left and right side instantly with no lags.

Sent from Xiaomi POCOPHONE F1 using GAGT

 

[Remless]

Actually what is meant by the fiil t1x in chinese?
Cannot be the songs they translate in chinese real time right?

When do we get to hear chinese through the fiil t1x?
Change song and it says next in chinese or?

They will notify in chinese for these situations related to bluetooth connections:

eg,
蓝牙已同步
蓝牙已连接
蓝牙已断开

For skipping tracks, volume control, etc, they use audible beeps.

 

[Remless]

If minus volume control function, what's the best buy can get for $30?
Preferably still able to switch left and right side instantly with no lags.

Sent from Xiaomi POCOPHONE F1 using GAGT

Either haylou GT plus, or qcy t5.

According to the review below, qcy t5 do not use the qcc3020 chip (therefore, should not have the weaker connectivity or the occasional pairing/connecting issues/lags u experienced in e12 ultra), but still support left/right hotswapping. I don't have a qcy t5 so I cannot say for sure.

https://www.scarbir.com/tws/qcy-t5-review

(Hmm.. some other reviews says qcy t5 is using the usual master-slave setup that don't have the ability to hotswap left/right. Really need a qcy t5 owner to comment on this.

Reason why I did not get the qcy t5: Not a fan on stem designs)

 

[kazuki666]

Either haylou GT plus, or qcy t5.

According to the review below, qcy t5 do not use the qcc3020 chip (therefore, should not have the weaker connectivity or the occasional pairing/connecting issues/lags u experienced in e12 ultra), but still support left/right hotswapping. I don't have a qcy t5 so I cannot say for sure.

https://www.scarbir.com/tws/qcy-t5-review

(Hmm.. some other reviews says qcy t5 is using the usual master-slave setup that don't have the ability to hotswap left/right. Really need a qcy t5 owner to comment on this.

Reason why I did not get the qcy t5: Not a fan on stem designs)

Seems like these two are always the comparison for the lower price range.

Taken from scarbir:
The $25 QCY T5, which can be considered balanced with elevated upper-mids and highs, seems surprisingly bassy in comparison to the GT1 Plus. Its bass is fatter and more present. The bass of the GT1 Plus doesn't kick in as fast, but when it does, it sounds tighter than that of the T5. Upper-mids and vocals have more impact too, with vocals coming in clearer. The center-mids, like pianos and guitars, however, are more emphasized and sound more lifelike on the T5. It's tossing a coin between these two. Battery life is comparable; the QCY T5 has a nifty low-latency mode for gaming as a nice addition.

 

[eBuddy]

Using GT1 Plus for 2 days. It is not bad. Sound quality acceptable, phone call is clear, long lasting battery and small in size, pocket friendly.

 

[Remless]

Seems like these two are always the comparison for the lower price range.

Taken from scarbir:
The $25 QCY T5, which can be considered balanced with elevated upper-mids and highs, seems surprisingly bassy in comparison to the GT1 Plus. Its bass is fatter and more present. The bass of the GT1 Plus doesn't kick in as fast, but when it does, it sounds tighter than that of the T5. Upper-mids and vocals have more impact too, with vocals coming in clearer. The center-mids, like pianos and guitars, however, are more emphasized and sound more lifelike on the T5. It's tossing a coin between these two. Battery life is comparable; the QCY T5 has a nifty low-latency mode for gaming as a nice addition.

Yeah.

I am not sure how important the ability to quickly swap L/R earpiece to u, but do note that the moment you chosen a earpiece with aptx and qualcomm chip, you lost the ability for seamless connection and hotswap if you are not using a device with snapdragon 845 (and above).

I guess that's why manufacturers like samsung and sony do not use the qualcomm chipset and rather, develop their own proprietary bluetooth chipset that supports double master setup. This way, they can not only assure their earpieces connects and swaps seamlessly, but also ensure their earpieces connect/swap seamlessly on ios devices. Its the same case with Fiil. A trade-off between support for aptx and seamless connection/swap.

Now I am not that keen in tws+ and aptx anymore as I want the seamless connection and swap. Even on snapdragon 845 and above devices, there is still lag as the earpieces connect/disconnect when earpieces are swapped back and forth to their cases.

(And that's why you see 2 devices in bluetooth setting for tws+ setups. Its a hybrid setup that allows hotswap using non-master/slave setup if the device is snapdragon 845 and above, or fallback to master/slave setup when its not)

Unfortunately, at lower price points, if you want the hotswap capability, only the tws+ solution is available.


Further readup (note nanaholic's post on why they are thankful for having no aptx support):

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/off...celling-true-wireless-earphones.911305/page-3


Which is the same reason why I held fiil t1x with such high regards. At that price point, they can develop a non-master/slave BT solution that connect/swap as seamlessly as galaxy buds, sony wf-1000xm3 and apple airpods without locking the user to any ecosystem, that I don't actually want tws+ or aptx on it.

 

[kazuki666]

hmm... I am using pocophone F1 which should be snapdragon 845, but I do experience the short lag with Sabbat E12 Ultra. So I am kinda suspecting qualcomm chip earbuds will experience this common issue.

Same, I appreciate the seamless and swapping sides, so I guess I have to avoid QC chip earbuds till there is a further tech advancement

 

[Remless]

hmm... I am using pocophone F1 which should be snapdragon 845, but I do experience the short lag with Sabbat E12 Ultra. So I am kinda suspecting qualcomm chip earbuds will experience this common issue.

Same, I appreciate the seamless and swapping sides, so I guess I have to avoid QC chip earbuds till there is a further tech advancement

Same here. I also use pocophone. Both truedots and sabbat e12 have lag when swapping. Bo bian.... its the tws+ thing and budget ones all use qualcomm's readily available tws+.

The rest using realtek chip cannot swap at all since they use master-slave setup.

Only fiil t1x is the odd one out (that i encounter so far) that actually has a double master solution for a budget earpiece.

Its not that tws+ is bad. It offers a solution to manufacturers to enable their earbuds to have the ability of having L/R independent use, which usually is limited to manufacturers that have the capacity to develop their own proprietary tech for hotswapping like samsung, apple and sony.

Just that its not as seamless as compared to them.

 

[Computeron]

lazada will have sale tonight / tml

 

[Jlyong0008]

Using the first gen. So far so good. I really like its sound signature. Minimum cut outs, battery life is good. Not bad at all for its price. Gen2 shld be better (USB-C + longer battery life). Had minor issues with the buds dislodging inside the case and connecting to my phone. Not sure if 2nd gen fixed it.

Is liberty 2 pro still a good buy now?

Think shopee if consider cashback and everything is around $165.

Lazada will have sale soon and guessing after cc + shop discount prolly around 150-170ish

 

[Remless]

lazada will have sale tonight / tml

I am hoping that the '?' is a 6, so that I can get another set of this near perfect earbuds.

 

[Albedo]

I am hoping that the '?' is a 6, so that I can get another set of this near perfect earbuds.

I will be tempted if its just $60.

 

[Remless]

I will be tempted if its just $60.

Same.

But looks like more good news coming our way.

https://www.techradar.com/amp/news/new-qualcomm-chips-could-bring-noise-cancelling-to-budget-bluetooth-buds

By the end of the yr, we might have ANC as a standard feature in most buds.