Wireless IP Camera thread

[Fuzzywuz]

Changed my mind after checking out the T7837WIP and T7838WIP. On first impression,
the ID looks bulky compared to EasyN H3-137V and H3-187V.

 

[Hardcor?]

No audio on SD card

After doing some read up of the last 40 pages of product discussion here and reviews online between several brands cameras, I settled for a VStarcam T7838WIP at FUNAN Challenger after seeing the product live demo there.

PROS:

The camera is extremely easy to setup and use. Video & Audio quality are clear.

CONS:

The sad thing is the cameras does not have record to NAS feature, nor does it have audio recording to microSD Card. Audio wise is 1 way on mobile, either you talk or you listen.

The eye4 cloud is still buggy with frequent unavailability today. It could be better.

I believe all cameras have their pros and cons, and its really good that people are contributing their reviews and hands-on so that we can read and benefit from the information.

Do hope more forumers will contribute their product hands-on experience which was the intention of what DR_ARCHER had started initially.

Whatever had happened, let it die down and move on for the benefits of all forumers.

Actually I'm quite supprised that audio on SD card is not working. It must be a bug or some defect on the unit.

 

[Core2max]

Core2max,

Try restart both cam n router. Of not, Write to the factory support, ask them to refresh ur ddns account.

BTW, Foscam angle should b wider for newer models as some people have claimed. Otherwise, invest in a wide angle lens n couple onto the camera.

I'm still search for the cheapest wide angle lens to try onto my cameras.

Thanks for the suggestions... will email them later...

 

[easydoesit]

Actually I'm quite supprised that audio on SD card is not working. It must be a bug or some defect on the unit.

Actually, it is not a bug or defect. It was stated in geckoSG's review that the T series products are not able to do audio recording to MicroSD, I've counter check with MARIX as well. Hope it will be available soon as they have told me that firmware on the cameras are ready, but not released as the APPs are still being tuned for playback.

I'm not siding him or VStarcam, but I see that you are now hitting hard on VStarcam when you do not even know what the product feature are, it really makes you look bad as a local agent for EasyN. In fact, MARIX did not hit at your products, being nearly distributors for the brand you are an agent for.

So, Hardcor?, seriously stop this and concentrate on telling everyone what your product can do or cannot do. Let the consumers decide what we want. Slamming doesn't help if you do not know your competitor's products well.

BTW, the CONS that I listed out is just sharing to everyone what I feel VStarcam cameras are lacking in feature, the network recording and the audio recording. I do hope it can be added onto in future. If a distributor is willing to feedback such small things to their factory and improve, these are the sort of products that will make consumer like myself buy.

I'm not siding anyone, just here to share the facts after buying 1 and how I feel about the product. My views are still primarily and still need to observe for a while more about the camera function.

 

[easydoesit]

easydoesit,

U can use VSCAM APP instead, much stable n higher availability online. Same thing less the Login interface by account.

Thanks geckoSG, was told by MARIX support on the same thing, hope VStarcam stabilize the platform. Very messy in terms of language appearance still.

 

[Hardcor?]

About slamming competitors product

Actually, it is not a bug or defect. It was stated in geckoSG's review that the T series products are not able to do audio recording to MicroSD, I've counter check with MARIX as well. Hope it will be available soon as they have told me that firmware on the cameras are ready, but not released as the APPs are still being tuned for playback.

I'm not siding him or VStarcam, but I see that you are now hitting hard on VStarcam when you do not even know what the product feature are, it really makes you look bad as a local agent for EasyN. In fact, MARIX did not hit at your products, being nearly distributors for the brand you are an agent for.

So, Hardcor?, seriously stop this and concentrate on telling everyone what your product can do or cannot do. Let the consumers decide what we want. Slamming doesn't help if you do not know your competitor's products well.

BTW, the CONS that I listed out is just sharing to everyone what I feel VStarcam cameras are lacking in feature, the network recording and the audio recording. I do hope it can be added onto in future. If a distributor is willing to feedback such small things to their factory and improve, these are the sort of products that will make consumer like myself buy.

I'm not siding anyone, just here to share the facts after buying 1 and how I feel about the product. My views are still primarily and still need to observe for a while more about the camera function.

Hi Sir,
Sorry about. Just checking. You have the right to defence.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

Let me clarify. Definitely a software bug if you intend to fix it by modifying the software. Everyone knows that. It's a matter of whether it's a serious or minor bug.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

Hey guys,

Can someone explain the differences / pros and cons between Prolink PIC1007WP and Vstarcam T7833WIP?

Thanks heaps

Hi JaeDees,
The Prolink PIC looks like a space astronaut to me compared to T7833WIP (UFO I think)

 

[geckoSG]

Let me clarify. Definitely a software bug if you intend to fix it by modifying the software. Everyone knows that. It's a matter of whether it's a serious or minor bug.

Fuzzywuz, I think you need to differentiate between bug n feature not available. And understand enhancements terms. Readers here will be able to tell that you do not understand what is "feature not available, but enhancement will be added in future".

Bugs are terms used to say a feature which is suppose to work but it did not. For example. U click on factory reset to reset the camera, but it did not work. That is a bug.

Hope this example helps clarify the terms you have came across here.

 

[geckoSG]

Thanks geckoSG, was told by MARIX support on the same thing, hope VStarcam stabilize the platform. Very messy in terms of language appearance still.

You will have to wait quite a while for it to be stable. So use the VSCAM first. Cos last few days, there were connection issue with the cloud. So I fall back to the older APP instead. Once they do up the cloud properly, it will be a better product.

I'm waiting for them to include reading the microSD card from the cloud platform to do playback. Currently the platform is still buggy, if u read MARIX's blog, they have also announce it n ask users to use the VSCAM n then try the eye4 cloud.

 

[geckoSG]

Hey guys,

Can someone explain the differences / pros and cons between Prolink PIC1007WP and Vstarcam T7833WIP?

Thanks heaps

2 major differences actually.

Prolink uses PIR motion sensor (hardware), so motion alarming will be more accurate as compared to software motion detection of T7833WIP. the only set back is the viewing angle compared to T7833WIP, you can tell from pic also. bonus of T7833WIP is the 3 x optical zoom.

Hope this small info helps

 

[geckoSG]

Just to share with the many readers here. If you are particularly concerned on motion detection. Look for an ip camera that comes with a PIR sensor on it. This hardware greatly proves the motion detection rate of detection.

Most cameras are software based if you do not see a semi circle matt white color like the one in PIC1007WP or certain D-Link models.

Software based can have up to 50% error rates. Its a hit n miss using software comparison.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

If it is an intended feature in the first place but could not be fix before the launch of the product, then it should be called a bug. "feature not available, but enhancement will be added in future" is a nice way of telling customer's that you will fix it in future. I will give you a trophy for covering for VSTARCAM so sweetly.

 

[marixsupport]

If it is an intended feature in the first place but could not be fix before the launch of the product, then it should be called a bug. "feature not available, but enhancement will be added in future" is a nice way of telling customer's that you will fix it in future. I will give you a trophy for covering for VSTARCAM so sweetly.

Dear Fuzzywuz,

We thank you for your criticism on the product. FYI, the audio recording for VStarcam T Series was never intended to be put in. It was decided to be put in by VStarcam after MARIX submits Singapore users requests after consolidating the feedbacks. The factory then sees and understands the requirement in Singapore, hence development was in place to put in the feature, as the playback interface was not matured yet, hence the decision to open up the feature was delayed. We hope this answers your understanding of "enhancements" and features of VStarcam Products.

Should you like to know more about what VStarcam can do and cannot do, you are welcome to come visit our office at AMK for a sales demo on the products.

Nevertheless, we thank you for your feedback on the product on the outlook of the designs.

 

[Fuzzywuz]

I should give you another Trophy, you make a very good lawyer or politician. Maybe the opposition party will call you some time and we can all see you debate in parliament. For the your effort, I change my mind. I will buy the T7837WIP (WIP = WORKS IN PROGRESS?)

 

[cybercom8]

wah, isn't it obivous to everyone there are crones here fighting for vstarcam/marix??

also its obvious marix and gecko does not want other brands to be represented in this forum...so much for sharing

 

[JaeDees]

2 major differences actually.

Prolink uses PIR motion sensor (hardware), so motion alarming will be more accurate as compared to software motion detection of T7833WIP. the only set back is the viewing angle compared to T7833WIP, you can tell from pic also. bonus of T7833WIP is the 3 x optical zoom.

Hope this small info helps

Hi geckoSG,

Can you explain what you mean by PIC1007WIP viewing angle setback compared to Vstarcam T7833WIP? I searched up on vstarcam's viewing angle and it says 4～9mm@F1.4/51～24˚. Im sorry I can't understand what that means, can you or anyone on this forum help to explain? Is it that - at the most zoomed out setting, the left to right viewing angle is 51 degree?

Software wise,
Can both monitor from andriod phone and ipad?
Can both access the recorded footage in their microsd cards wirelessly from andriod and ipad?
Is the recording done 24/7 or only when they detect motion?
And which software is more user friendly? Especially for aunties to use......

Thanks lots !!

 

[Fuzzywuz]

I think Marix just invited me to his office for a bashing. I must get my people on standby.

 

[geckoSG]

Hi geckoSG,

Can you explain what you mean by PIC1007WIP viewing angle setback compared to Vstarcam T7833WIP? I searched up on vstarcam's viewing angle and it says 4～9mm@F1.4/51～24˚. Im sorry I can't understand what that means, can you or anyone on this forum help to explain? Is it that - at the most zoomed out setting, the left to right viewing angle is 51 degree?

Software wise,
Can both monitor from andriod phone and ipad?
Can both access the recorded footage in their microsd cards wirelessly from andriod and ipad?
Is the recording done 24/7 or only when they detect motion?
And which software is more user friendly? Especially for aunties to use......

Thanks lots !!

OK, I'll only share what I've had hands-on here. The T7833WIP is an outdoor camera, the lens information you see is saying that if you zoom out, it will show the image with 4mm lens, and zoomed in, it will show using 9mm lens. Something like tat. It is a 3 X Optical zoom camera, concept similar to DSLR cameras. The camera can pan (left/right) angle up to 355 degree. Tilt (up/down) is 90 degree.


The ProLink camera, why I state here as setback in viewing is. If you look at the design, it cannot view anything behind it, its just like the Linksys WVC 200 which I used to have, I can only view front and limited sideways. Viewing angle will be much limited, but what I like about the camera is that it comes with hardware PIR motion detector, this is important and useful for motion detection. The hardware improves the accuracy of the motion detection which most IP Cameras does comparison using software which T7833WIP is doing.

I know VStarcam certainly can use iOS and Android mobiles & tablets. Can record to MicroSD Card. Can playback via mobile, BUT it does not allow you to play at certain time of the clip. U need to watch the WHOLE CLIP. No AUDIO recording for now as well. It can be motion detect recording or continuous recording.

Prolink have their own mobile APP as well and they should be able to record to MicroSD Card too and similar motion or continuous recording. I've not tested it myself, so can't comment much about it. So, Pro-Link users who owns the model could help to share your experience as well.

Or before you buy, go down FUNAN Challenger. Take a look at the display demos there before you commit to buy, there's D-Link, Pro-Link, Aztech, Sineoji, VStarcam, etc. Always do comparison first of any products before you buy. So you will not regret yourself.

Information here are shared by vendors, end-users, so you do your own homework with read ups here, view the reviews that people do online, test out any demos that are release to the public and then decide which model meets your need.

Not everyone shares the same view for the same product. Hope this helps.

 

[Spongy]

Didn't realise that gecko is selling vstarcam. Is he also selling Asus router?