Wireless IP Camera thread

[Dr_ARCHer]

Can't believe that the first post to this thread is now coming to 6 years old. And I am still interested in them, although their use is no longer about using it as a baby video monitor (my oldest is now 10 years old, and my youngest is 6 years old), but about using it to check on what is happening at home.

Glad to see that there is still considerable interest in this topic.

 

[harky]

Night Vision Snap
I turn off my light and close my door @ 9.10pm (my clock is wrong as my mom set 30min faster)

All lights off? Apparently, there's an obvious glow on the altar. The light from your PC monitor can also have a positive effect on the IR performance.

Test night vision, must be in total darkness. That will be accurate. If there are lights at the altar, of course it will be clear. Makes no difference turning on infrared in day light.

Every camera turning on infra red with some lights on will be clear. The question is without any lights and in complete darkness, what is the accurate view in terms of clarity ?

Not so difficult for you to off the lights at the altar and your PC. Just do a screenshot from your phone.

 

[sgnimo]

Night Vision Snap
I turn off my light and close my door @ 9.10pm (my clock is wrong as my mom set 30min faster)

Bro, I must salute you...I am very doubtful of your night vision shots. I am into photography and by looking at this screenshot, I can tell if this is genuine or fake. This pic you shared perhaps is not an infra red pic, seems to be a pic edited on photoshop to make it look like an infra red with clarity..

Under enormous darkness, when infra red kicks in, black fabric materials will be reflective and it will turn out white. The black chair you have turns out black under infra red in complete darkness ? This is a joke.

I have an ipcamera and placed in the store room with the lights on and lights off (complete darkness). I have a black fabric chair and a black fury soft toy sitting on the fabric chair.

Lights on.

Now, lights is off and the store room is in complete darkness. Look at the black fabric chair and the soft toy, it reflects under infra red condition.

Now let's see a fake infra red edited on photoshop.

 

[Dr_ARCHer]

The principle of IR is similar to the principle of visible light. Under IR, an object will appear to be black if it absorbs the IR, and white if it reflects (or emits) IR.

Bro sgnimo, your chair and soft-toy material might reflect IR, but the chair in the other picture might not. If you look closely at say the haversack (?) on the right in your picture, you noticed that the bulk of it is white (reflects IR), but the zipper part is black (absorbs) IR. Note also the metal leg of the chair and the ventilation hole (?) are both black in normal light and IR.

 

[sgnimo]

The principle of IR is similar to the principle of visible light. Under IR, an object will appear to be black if it absorbs the IR, and white if it reflects (or emits) IR.

Bro sgnimo, your chair and soft-toy material might reflect IR, but the chair in the other picture might not. If you look closely at say the haversack (?) on the right in your picture, you noticed that the bulk of it is white (reflects IR), but the zipper part is black (absorbs) IR. Note also the metal leg of the chair and the ventilation hole (?) are both black in normal light and IR.

Dr_ARCHer, agree with you. The fact is the black fabric seat of Harky's is absorbing all the IR as there is another direct light source pointing to it resulting on this inaccuracy of the night vision..

To test the ipcam night vision performance, we wanna see it on a complete darkness without any external light source. But looking at the picture he posted, there is a light source from behind as it is reflected on the wall which I illustrated.

 

[harky]

Photo is direct taken out from IP cam storage.

You really look too high on me. I do know basic photoshop editing but I don't know how to do this type of effect...


The only I can think is that you so call light, should be the outside corridor path way. My window is close and it has solar film (?) And that shine one which you circle in red should be a glass bowl.

There isn't any light shine toward the wall..
Should had take one in the dark, so you won't pick something from the stone.

I will try to do a shoot from my store room maybe today or Tml.

I quite sad that where ppl truly share a pic and you claim it is fake just because fabric materials.

Bro, I must salute you...I am very doubtful of your night vision shots. I am into photography and by looking at this screenshot, I can tell if this is genuine or fake. This pic you shared perhaps is not an infra red pic, seems to be a pic edited on photoshop to make it look like an infra red with clarity..

Under enormous darkness, when infra red kicks in, black fabric materials will be reflective and it will turn out white. The black chair you have turns out black under infra red in complete darkness ? This is a joke.

I have an ipcamera and placed in the store room with the lights on and lights off (complete darkness). I have a black fabric chair and a black fury soft toy sitting on the fabric chair.

Lights on.

Now, lights is off and the store room is in complete darkness. Look at the black fabric chair and the soft toy, it reflects under infra red condition.

Now let's see a fake infra red edited on photoshop.

 

[harky]

Does that mean the chair fabric materials is good?

The principle of IR is similar to the principle of visible light. Under IR, an object will appear to be black if it absorbs the IR, and white if it reflects (or emits) IR.

Bro sgnimo, your chair and soft-toy material might reflect IR, but the chair in the other picture might not. If you look closely at say the haversack (?) on the right in your picture, you noticed that the bulk of it is white (reflects IR), but the zipper part is black (absorbs) IR. Note also the metal leg of the chair and the ventilation hole (?) are both black in normal light and IR.

 

[seabreeze82]

hi, both my 2 year old sineoji ip cams are dead... any good ip cameras to recommend? i tried seraching reviews, but all latest are not local reviews.

 

[goodwin]

I have the privilege to test out the Sineoji’s latest arrival PT713V, 2 Megapixel, Full HD 1080P, 170° Ultra Wide Viewing Angle IP Camera with 10x Digital Zoom, supporting 128GB micro SDCard.

The video image was impressive, and the ultra wide angle is an added feature where you have your camera sitting at one corner and have almost the complete view of your living hall, balcony including blindspots.

Setting up was relatively easy. Have your android/iphone connected to your 2.4Ghz band, download the sineoji app from the app store. Run the app and enter the wifi password of your main router and in no time, your camera is up and running. No ethernet cables are needed for the setup.

Picture taken with an android smartphone in the living hall.

Screenshot taken with Sineoji’s PT603V, 130° wide viewing angle with 960P HD

Screenshot taken with Sineoji’s PT713V, 170° wide viewing angle using Sineoji app with 1080P HD.

Screenshot taken with Sineoji’s PT713V using IP Cam Viewer Pro by Robert Chou with 1080P HD

Screenshot taken with Sineoji’s PT713V using tinyCam Monitor Pro by Tiny Solutions LLC on 1080P HD

Screenshot taken on night vision

Video on Night Vision

The PT713V is extremely responsive during pan and tilt on mobile data plan. Even at HD mode, there is no lag or pause when you pan and tilt your camera with your 4G mobile data.

Tested the software on Windows but it requires a little technical knowledge to set it up.

For mac users like myself, there is a mac software where you can download from sineoji website. With this software installed, you can watch your cam live remotely anywhere you are. You must have a Mac OS El Capitan at least..

I tested the zoom function but manage to achieve 4x. I have been informed that there will be a firmware update on this.

The motion detection alarm is very sensitive. Even when the day curtain starts to swing a little, the motion alarm rings. Recording of the sdcard can be configured either by 24/7 recording on a daily basis or motion detection recording.

3 years warranty with free onsite installation and mounting. There was no announcement of price as yet.

 

[harky]

EDIT
i living in old hdb so the store room is small.. unlike can take a good pic.. this is the best
but i think u may think i use photoshop from colour to white

Living room (just notice I forget to use HD mode, but anyways all are using same mode so quality is same)

the 2 dot light, is from 2 pc

***the so call light which u circle in red, now i know is from where! it not from glass bowl but it reflection which create by the cam toward the wall tiles


ok, i not going to waste time on this. is up to u to believe.
Anyway this cam is just cost SGD$65, install part isnt hard..
if u know how to setup router than this isnt tht hard to do it.

Dr_ARCHer, agree with you. The fact is the black fabric seat of Harky's is absorbing all the IR as there is another direct light source pointing to it resulting on this inaccuracy of the night vision..

To test the ipcam night vision performance, we wanna see it on a complete darkness without any external light source. But looking at the picture he posted, there is a light source from behind as it is reflected on the wall which I illustrated.

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[Dr_ARCHer]

Does that mean the chair fabric materials is good?

I don't know what is classified as good fabric material. Based on logic, if I sit on a chair, if I don't want to feel the heat from my body, I would like the fabric of the chair to be able to absorb my body heat. But that is just one aspect of it. The other aspect is whether the fabric can stain easily, whether it is washable etc.

I certainly am no fabric expert. I only recently found out that micro-fiber is not cloth but is actually plastic.

 

[Dr_ARCHer]

To test the ipcam night vision performance, we wanna see it on a complete darkness without any external light source. But looking at the picture he posted, there is a light source from behind as it is reflected on the wall which I illustrated.

Actually, the best way to test the various ipcams is to put them side by side and do a group test. I think if you look at the start of this thread, I have attempted to do some group tests, but those cameras are from the late 2010 era. I have also attempted to do varying degree of brightness in the room (all lights on, toilet lights on, no lights on etc.). Only thing I don't have is a light meter. Been wanting to get it (was crazy over photography at one stage), but never got round to getting one.

 

[geckoSG]

Goodwin,

Can you post a daytime image from the camera? Importantly is put the camera on your
TV console so that the windows do not cause glare to the camera and show us a picture
facing where you placed the camera in your review above?

This way, we can see how clear the camera image is.

 

[geckoSG]

OMG, it is a very sad day for me today, I went to SINEOJI website to order the 619V, guess what, it is NO LONGER AVAILABLE!!! So much hype about the model and suddenly, it just disappear from the website.

Harky, your review wise is very good, the model that you have seems to have lesser viewing angle, but if you look at the comparison against my HW0048 and the PT713V images, your camera have a better clarity in terms of night vision and daytime.

The picture of PT713V, if you open up the picture, you will see the 3 lamps on the left are blurry, even the lighted area on the right are not as sharp as the centre area.

goodwin,

The youtube video wise, movement is very chalky, not smooth, Are you using 4G or 3G to do the streaming viewing?

 

[geckoSG]

hi, both my 2 year old sineoji ip cams are dead... any good ip cameras to recommend? i tried seraching reviews, but all latest are not local reviews.

Why don't you want to buy sineoji again? So much of reviews here already

 

[Errz]

wait and see how much the PT713V

 

[jwattbradley]

Geckosg, your ipcam business must be bad lately...trying to bring other brands down. Good at least the public get to see who you are and what you really are.

Can't keep up with the competition and creating unscrupulous tactics to confuse the public ? Be honest for once in your life time because not many household are rich, can't afford changing ipcams. Decent household and young families just starting a family looking for an ipcam, don't treat us as you may think we are fools again. Buy an ipcam and trash it and getting another set ? Paying for installation $90, $80 ,?

Forum is good at least your hidden agenda is exposed.

 

[geckoSG]

Jwattbradley,

You can say whatever you like. It doesn't affect me anyway, the more you slam me, the better it is for the public too to see where you are coming from. It's obvious you buy from cheap source have problem get no help and start blaming others. Vstarcam have passed it's time, and I do not hide this from the public, those who seen my posts previously would have seen me posting the suspected compromised of the cloud server with messages on mobile device recently. You can go ahead and discredit me like some others did recently.

There are many IP cameras out there on the market, buyers are free to choose what they buy, I always say, test before you buy. Installation fee offered by vendors, you like you take, no like look for others. Save money just DIY, no one is stopping you.

Nevertheless, my reviews will still go on, I will still post remarks of what I think. The public is free to see if what I said make senses based on photos and videos posted here.

So, there's nothing to hide when there are pictures and videos to prove it.

 

[geckoSG]

wait and see how much the PT713V

I guess range around 279? The last 619V was marked at $279.

 

[harky]

if i can get a ip cam without installation tag on it,
so i wont pay additional $80, $90 extra? isnt that better?

actually installation SHOULD'T be included in a normal ip camera package.
Some ppl prefer to do DIY, if i need some1 to install for me than i wont mind to pay additional $80-$90. fair deal.

Geckosg, your ipcam business must be bad lately...trying to bring other brands down. Good at least the public get to see who you are and what you really are.

Can't keep up with the competition and creating unscrupulous tactics to confuse the public ? Be honest for once in your life time because not many household are rich, can't afford changing ipcams. Decent household and young families just starting a family looking for an ipcam, don't treat us as you may think we are fools again. Buy an ipcam and trash it and getting another set ? Paying for installation $90, $80 ,?

Forum is good at least your hidden agenda is exposed.