Working Shoe for Young Exec - Part 2

[thundermarch]

Wonder why most shoemakers don't seem to offer nubuck options when it comes to dress shoes.

From what is shared, it would appear to be a superior option to split suede and I am presuming nubuck isn't prohibitively more expensive since we do see nubuck (at least based on labeling) used quite extensively in much lower priced casual shoes.

Well, in the setting of "higher end" shoes, nubuck seems to be more often used for exotics like croc, elephant, seal, etc. So the surface texture of the original leather is preserved, and yet it has the nap and "matte" appearance of suede. These leathers in and of itself are already quite expensive, so the clientele for these would be fairly select I would imagine, thus you won't see them so often.

Secondly, I think that though nubuck would generally be preferable to split suedes, the "nubuck" that we see in the lower priced casual shoes. Well, they could have come from hides with noticeable imperfections, with the buffing process hiding these defects somewhat (with the hides thus costing less). We are then essentially dealing with corrected grain leather. Also, if the hides come from more "obscure" tanneries, the tannage and ultimate quality of leather might also have a part to play in terms of cost. Well, the best stuff typically still does come from the best tanneries.

 

[All in a Day]

Well, in the setting of "higher end" shoes, nubuck seems to be more often used for exotics like croc, elephant, seal, etc. So the surface texture of the original leather is preserved, and yet it has the nap and "matte" appearance of suede. These leathers in and of itself are already quite expensive, so the clientele for these would be fairly select I would imagine, thus you won't see them so often.

Secondly, I think that though nubuck would generally be preferable to split suedes, the "nubuck" that we see in the lower priced casual shoes. Well, they could have come from hides with noticeable imperfections, with the buffing process hiding these defects somewhat (with the hides thus costing less). We are then essentially dealing with corrected grain leather. Also, if the hides come from more "obscure" tanneries, the tannage and ultimate quality of leather might also have a part to play in terms of cost. Well, the best stuff typically still does come from the best tanneries.

Thanks TM, that now seems to make sense. Guess the shoemakers rather put a good piece of leather to use "as is" (presumably more economically viable as well) than to have it "grain corrected", so to speak.

 

[htngwilliam]

Hi. Would like to check is anyone familiar with Meermin Elton last? I'm normally a size 41, and I wear UK 7.5 for Carmina Rain but UK 7 for Carlos Santos 234. Which size shld I get for Meermin? Many thanks.

Happen to me also. Personally I think the right fit for 41 is UK7.5. if you look at the measurement, UK7 is 0.6cm (6mm) smaller than UK7.5.


Unless you are there to try the shoes, I think getting smaller size is always a risk. Personally I would buy UK7.5.

 

[All in a Day]

Happen to me also. Personally I think the right fit for 41 is UK7.5. if you look at the measurement, UK7 is 0.6cm (6mm) smaller than UK7.5.


Unless you are there to try the shoes, I think getting smaller size is always a risk. Personally I would buy UK7.5.

+1

Shoes slightly big can potentially salvage by wearing thicker socks, or use padding

Shoes too small is GG, return or put on carousell..

 

[wiz]

Good details on suede. Thanks guys

 

[htngwilliam]

+1

Shoes slightly big can potentially salvage by wearing thicker socks, or use padding

Shoes too small is GG, return or put on carousell..

Yeah. Sometimes I am a bit worried when I buy 1/2 size smaller. As you try, it feels so good and the bigger size seems to be too big. The worrying thing is you feel pain after wearing with the smaller size after walking for a while. This is enough to kill me

 

[jnpy3093]

Happen to me also. Personally I think the right fit for 41 is UK7.5. if you look at the measurement, UK7 is 0.6cm (6mm) smaller than UK7.5.


Unless you are there to try the shoes, I think getting smaller size is always a risk. Personally I would buy UK7.5.

Thanks for sharing. Based on the chart provided by Meermin, 41 is actually UK 7.

In fact I was asked by Meermin to "For your information our ELTON last is true to size, regular E UK (Medium) fitting, if you normally wear a size 7.5UK on your own dress shoes, we do recommend you to wear the same size in our shoes."

I may go for UK 7.5 if the toe cap area is narrower....less roomy than the Carlos Santos 234 last.

 

[wiz]

Agree, that is my biggest concern when sizing down.... have been pondering over the last few days if I should size down for a pair I have been beoing

Yeah. Sometimes I am a bit worried when I buy 1/2 size smaller. As you try, it feels so good and the bigger size seems to be too big. The worrying thing is you feel pain after wearing with the smaller size after walking for a while. This is enough to kill me

 

[htngwilliam]

Thanks for sharing. Based on the chart provided by Meermin, 41 is actually UK 7.

In fact I was asked by Meermin to "For your information our ELTON last is true to size, regular E UK (Medium) fitting, if you normally wear a size 7.5UK on your own dress shoes, we do recommend you to wear the same size in our shoes."

I may go for UK 7.5 if the toe cap area is narrower....less roomy than the Carlos Santos 234 last.

If that is the case, then I think go for uk7. Usually UK7.5 is US8 and EU41. If UK7 is EU41, I think alright

 

[Fiddler]

Anyone knows where I can get Saphir Gloss Wax Polish? Apparently there is no stock at Tangs

For colored version, will it be a problem if our shoe color and the polish color is different? Sometimes difficult to get 100% matchung

I would just get it from afinepairofshoes....the prices are as low as you'll find and it should arrive usually within 10 days.

For colour matching one doesn't need to be 100% precise...just go as close as you can...for browns that are a bit reddish I use mahogany....sometimes I use black was polish on brown shoes.....navy on green leather.

Over time it creates a colour that is rich, layered and complex.

At the end of the day, these are just shoes. Have fun with them.

 

[terras14]

Hi. Would like to check is anyone familiar with Meermin Elton last? I'm normally a size 41, and I wear UK 7.5 for Carmina Rain but UK 7 for Carlos Santos 234. Which size shld I get for Meermin? Many thanks.

I wear uk6.5 mostly except for loafers or G width shoe which i downsize. Otherwise 6.5 is good. Elton last 6.5 for me is very tight in the toe cap and vamp. Length wise is ok. So if younhave wide feet, this last may not be the best.

 

[htngwilliam]

Is there any brands that makes slightly wider dress shoes?

 

[jonleelk]

Is there any brands that makes slightly wider dress shoes?

Loake 1880 swing last.

 

[DT1212]

Hi guys,

Need some advice.

Have a pair of Vass shoe with JR sole.

Any recommendation whether to install metal toe cap or vibram sole or just leave it?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

 

[Fiddler]

Hi guys,

Need some advice.

Have a pair of Vass shoe with JR sole.

Any recommendation whether to install metal toe cap or vibram sole or just leave it?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

leave it....enjoy the shoes.

 

[Kegler]

Ordered this awhile ago.... just got it... quite nice to wear and it’s MTO

 

[All in a Day]

Is there any brands that makes slightly wider dress shoes?

For some reason (probably aesthetics), the higher end the brand, the more likely the dress shoe lasts tend to be on the narrower side.

From my memory, the following lasts are considered to be slightly wide, but still classified under standard fit (E or F as the case may be) by their makers:
Loake Capital last
Carmina Rain last
Carlos Santos 234 last

You can do a google search for 'wider' lasts within each of the various brands out there.

If you really need a wider fit, going specifically for dress shoes marked as wide fit (e.g. G or F) would be the safer option. There are fewer options or may require special order, but not impossible to find.

Good luck!

 

[jnpy3093]

I wear uk6.5 mostly except for loafers or G width shoe which i downsize. Otherwise 6.5 is good. Elton last 6.5 for me is very tight in the toe cap and vamp. Length wise is ok. So if younhave wide feet, this last may not be the best.

Thanks for sharing. Its always a struggle to find the right size, especially when I'm on a journey to explore and add different brands and lasts to my small collection.

 

[xtwis7]

Is there any brands that makes slightly wider dress shoes?

For Loakes, you will want to go for the 026 last. Otherwise, Herring G lasts are pretty wide too.

 

[wrinklednails]

Hi guys,

Need some advice.

Have a pair of Vass shoe with JR sole.

Any recommendation whether to install metal toe cap or vibram sole or just leave it?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Depends on your usuage. Mostly indoor use on high friction flooring like carpets, great to leave it as it is.

Frequent walking in public spaces/on smooth tiles and using public transportation then get the front half soles fixed with rubber to avoid slipping.

Take a look at the wear pattern of your other shoes for reference as to whether you should add metal toe taps. If you notice increased wearing down on the tip of the soles compared to the other parts then it'll be a good idea to install toe taps!

I can help with adding a front half rubber sole, drop me a PM or check out my carousell page @pulloutnow