Working Shoe for Young Exec - Part 2

[Wryer]

So apart from the creasing problem, does the leather season well also? hehehe currently they having GSS sale of 20% leh

I use Saphir cream on it, about once a month. Renovetuer too. It still looks pretty ok. Can't say the same for the heel and toe area because they are fairly abused by myself. Other wise, it's looking pretty good.

 

[Wryer]

I am normally a UK 9, but i have a high instep.

On Meermin's Hiro last, i took a 9.5. For both my Ed's (wholecut and double monk), I had to take 9.5 as well.

Other than Meermin Hiro and Ed's, I am always in UK9 (Herring, Cheaney, Carmina's Rain etc). The more important thing for me appears to be the instep and width.

Disclaimer: I am not familiar with Meermin's other lasts or any of Ed's.

Thanks! Sounds like Meermin tallies with Eds.

 

[darthsid11111]

Thanks! Sounds like Meermin tallies with Eds.

I think you have to be careful with Ed's sizing as they don't follow the typical chart proportions.

My Ed's in 44EUR was actually labeled as 9.5UK. 44EUR is typically 10UK for most other brands and is what I normally wear. For my Ed's they're snug with the width a little too narrow so as to cause some discomfort.

Sent from the exploded Death Star using GAGT

 

[Wryer]

I think you have to be careful with Ed's sizing as they don't follow the typical chart proportions.

My Ed's in 44EUR was actually labeled as 9.5UK. 44EUR is typically 10UK for most other brands and is what I normally wear. For my Ed's they're snug with the width a little too narrow so as to cause some discomfort.

Sent from the exploded Death Star using GAGT

Thanks for the advice. Indeed, I do feel Eds sizing at abit off tangent compared to my other shoes. I'll probably drop a mail to Meermin and Loake to be doubly sure. Thanks!

 

[Edwardtzy]

I use Saphir cream on it, about once a month. Renovetuer too. It still looks pretty ok. Can't say the same for the heel and toe area because they are fairly abused by myself. Other wise, it's looking pretty good.

what colour do you use for your what colour of shoes? I only got the renovateur, thinking of getting the cream as well. Can advice me what colour of cream should I get if I have black shoes and intending to get a tan/dark brown shoes as well?

 

[darthsid11111]

Neutral...

Sent from the exploded Death Star using GAGT

 

[urbanturban]

Question: has anyone come across shoe trees for boots? Thanks to let me know the links/location.

 

[lirahs]

Size up by 1/2 size if you are purchasing based on Euro sizes. Their shoes are on the narrow side.

Leather is nice and soft, however, creases very easily. Stitchin/finishing is pretty decent for its price range.

Ed Et Al's RTW range are in 'E' width (narrow) lasts but I wouldn't recommed sizing up by 1/2 as one may experience slight heel slippage. Try the shoes at their physical atelier to determine your best fit.

For lads with wide feet, I would suggest taking your size and let the sales rep (Daniel or Shaun) use the shoe-stretching machine (probably a week or so) to increase the shoes' width before you wear the shoes.

 

[lirahs]

Never tried Meermins before so can't comment. Perhaps someone else can answer your question.

I have 2 pairs of Ed's shoes and 1 pair of Meermin's boots. My Ed's are the $300+ range.
They are rather comparable. Not great, but they are goodyear welted. I find my Meermin a bit more comfortable out of the box.

Thanks! Sounds like Meermin tallies with Eds.

It depends on which grades we are comparing. Ed Et Al's RTW range is comparable to Meermin classic collection; while Ed Et Al's MTO range is comparable to Meermin LM range. This is not taking into consideration the price-point, but merely the construction, finishing, process and etc. This is subjective to one's observations and expectations too.

 

[lirahs]

I have 2 pairs of Eds and they are good value for money. The creasing is a problem, but I do wear them up to 4 times a week. They are in shoe trees if not worn. The shoes take a while to break in, and I had really pain heels for almost a month. Maybe the fit wasn't perfect, but for that price, I can't get anything better locally.

Another name that seems to go off radar are the Loakes 1880.. I'm looking to get a pair of black oxfords or semi brogues at around that price range (400ish). I'm wondering if they are a level up from Ed. Anyone with both to make a comment? I'm on 40 on Ed so what should I be looking at for Loakd 1880? 6.5 or 7? How about Meermins?

So apart from the creasing problem, does the leather season well also? hehehe currently they having GSS sale of 20% leh

Pardon me but how do you expect the shoes not to crease considerably if you wear them almost every weekday (4 times a week) as you mentioned? Creasings will be the case and will always be for all shoes (even for high-end range). Personally, I find and feel certain creasings as a form of art/beauty itself. It depicts a certain aging process. Good shoes creases.

Plain toe shoes will always crease more and wholecuts will most likely crease the most. Like our skin, leather is subjected to creasings and few of the ways to minimise (not eliminate) them is to rejuvenate it with Saphir reno/creams and inserting shoe trees (as you, Wryer, mentioned earlier). I have a pair of Ed Et Al's RTW (4th collection range) dark brown captoe oxfords 'Cityhall' model going well for 2 years now. Shining the toe caps with wax is fairly speedier(as compared to initial sessions) and the leather absorbs reno/creams at a decent rate, giving it a matte finish. It has also developed a nice two tone patina. It ages well, I believe.

Loake 1880 range are a decent entry level for English goodyear welted shoes. Locally, you can visit Robinson's Orchard to determine your sizing, albeit limited range and stocks. If you're comfortable with Ed Et Al Euro 40 ('E' width), I think you will be fine wearing Loake 1880, size UK 7, with a bit of roominess at the toe box area.

 

[lirahs]

what colour do you use for your what colour of shoes? I only got the renovateur, thinking of getting the cream as well. Can advice me what colour of cream should I get if I have black shoes and intending to get a tan/dark brown shoes as well?

Neutral...

For wax/cream, I would suggest getting the best possible similar colour for your shoes so as to achieve uniform consistency intended for your office formal wear.

But if one intends to be adventurous and decides to experiment, I wouldn't hesitate to propose utilising wax/creams with a slightly lighter/darker (depending on one's taste/preferences) colour to create a desirable hue.

 

[Wryer]

Pardon me but how do you expect the shoes not to crease considerably if you wear them almost every weekday (4 times a week) as you mentioned? Creasings will be the case and will always be for all shoes (even for high-end range). Personally, I find and feel certain creasings as a form of art/beauty itself. It depicts a certain aging process. Good shoes creases.

Plain toe shoes will always crease more and wholecuts will most likely crease the most. Like our skin, leather is subjected to creasings and few of the ways to minimise (not eliminate) them is to rejuvenate it with Saphir reno/creams and inserting shoe trees (as you, Wryer, mentioned earlier). I have a pair of Ed Et Al's RTW (4th collection range) dark brown captoe oxfords 'Cityhall' model going well for 2 years now. Shining the toe caps with wax is fairly speedier(as compared to initial sessions) and the leather absorbs reno/creams at a decent rate, giving it a matte finish. It has also developed a nice two tone patina. It ages well, I believe.

Loake 1880 range are a decent entry level for English goodyear welted shoes. Locally, you can visit Robinson's Orchard to determine your sizing, albeit limited range and stocks. If you're comfortable with Ed Et Al Euro 40 ('E' width), I think you will be fine wearing Loake 1880, size UK 7, with a bit of roominess at the toe box area.

Thanks for your advice on Loake.

As for creasing, I'm cool with it. Which is why I stated I abuse it fairly, so perfectly okay with it. With reno and cream, they are doing fine. Just that I feel my Eds creased quicker than my other oxfords. Like you say - so many variables that affect creasing, so it really depends. But thankfully their OTR range aren't too expensive so it's good to have a try.

 

[dark_aLLeY]

Ed Et Al's RTW range are in 'E' width (narrow) lasts but I wouldn't recommed sizing up by 1/2 as one may experience slight heel slippage. Try the shoes at their physical atelier to determine your best fit.

For lads with wide feet, I would suggest taking your size and let the sales rep (Daniel or Shaun) use the shoe-stretching machine (probably a week or so) to increase the shoes' width before you wear the shoes.

Oh cool, I didn't know they have the shoe-stretching machine now.

 

[lirahs]

Question: has anyone come across shoe trees for boots? Thanks to let me know the links/location.

Count me in as I will like to receive favourable responses to the question posed. Thanks!

 

[lirahs]

Thanks for your advice on Loake.

As for creasing, I'm cool with it. Which is why I stated I abuse it fairly, so perfectly okay with it. With reno and cream, they are doing fine. Just that I feel my Eds creased quicker than my other oxfords. Like you say - so many variables that affect creasing, so it really depends. But thankfully their OTR range aren't too expensive so it's good to have a try.

My pleasure.

It also depends on which Ed Et Al's RTW collection range. I believe that the 4th collection and succeeding ones integrated a better leather quality as compared to preceding ones; in which creasings are not as prevalent for newer batches. More often that not, the way we walk/lifestyle may also constitute a great proportion to the creasing episode.

 

[xtreamzz]

hey guys, just a quick question - may i know the price range for Atelier LLYR shoes?

also, do they have the 'lower-end' series like edetal has (not sure if they still do) that retails for ~S$180?

Thanks in advance!

 

[urbanturban]

Oh cool, I didn't know they have the shoe-stretching machine now.

Ed Et Al's RTW range are in 'E' width (narrow) lasts but I wouldn't recommed sizing up by 1/2 as one may experience slight heel slippage. Try the shoes at their physical atelier to determine your best fit.

For lads with wide feet, I would suggest taking your size and let the sales rep (Daniel or Shaun) use the shoe-stretching machine (probably a week or so) to increase the shoes' width before you wear the shoes.

I bought my second pair of Ed's with size 44 (same as my other Ed wholecuts). During the time of trying on the shoe, Daniel earnestly mentioned that i can go to 43 (it was fitting). But when i received my 44 later (on backorder), i can barely fit my left foot in. It had to go on the stretching machine as well.

I find Ed's sizing not too agreeable with my feet.

 

[Edwardtzy]

Guys, any advice on which colour is more versatile? Tan / Dark brown or Burgundy? For a pair of brogues hahaha

 

[koburn]

Guys, any advice on which colour is more versatile? Tan / Dark brown or Burgundy? For a pair of brogues hahaha

I fancy Burgandy, but there are also many tonal variations within the colour.

 

[urbanturban]

Guys, any advice on which colour is more versatile? Tan / Dark brown or Burgundy? For a pair of brogues hahaha

Dark Brown > Burgundy > Tan.
In that order, if you are wearing office wear.

For casual clothes, it depends on the brogues and soles etc.