Working Shoe for Young Exec - Part 2

[Beta_Tester]

Im gonna meet up with the guy who does Patina for DW in Holland in March. Think he has his own shoe range launching soon.

 

[villan]

Carlos Santos anyone?

any reviews? price range around loake and meermin...

 

[Edwardtzy]

Any opinions regarding Meermin's suede tassel loafers & Loake's one?

 

[stormcontrol]

Any opinions regarding Meermin's suede tassel loafers & Loake's one?

Meermin's style 101381? Apparently those who've tried the Ron last have found that it lacking. Massive heel slip or something like that. I'll leave it to LHB and ball to give you details.

 

[thundermarch]

Carlos Santos anyone?

What do you have in mind, Sir?

 

[Darknight55]

What do you have in mind, Sir?

Something in Green(Sintra) for a start... But perhaps wait for the new styles from Skoak to be out before doing anything.

 

[thundermarch]

any reviews? price range around loake and meermin...

This is a review of Carlos Santos by Jesper from the shoegazing blog.

http://shoegazing.se/english/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/

Earlier on when I'd first ventured into GYWs, I'd actually bought a pair of derbies from this relatively unknown French maker, Markowski / Prince Jorge.
Looking at them, they are EXACTLy the same as the 3 eyelet derby shown on SkoaB's website. Which leads me to believe they are made by one and the same maker.
I didn't think they were quite on par with Carminas, as the leather was noticeably stiffer and the finishing was a little sloppy. But they were in the sub 400SGD price bracket.
However, things may have changed, and Patrik thinks fairly highly of them. And I do trust him.
Jesper also pointed out that they use leather (instead of leatherboard) insoles and leatherboard (instead of celastic) heel counters. These are all good things.
Only thing is if the open channel outsoles bother you or not.

 

[starsandstripes]

Earlier on when I'd first ventured into GYWs, I'd actually bought a pair of derbies from this relatively unknown French maker, Markowski / Prince Jorge.
Looking at them, they are EXACTLy the same as the 3 eyelet derby shown on SkoaB's website. Which leads me to believe they are made by one and the same maker.
I didn't think they were quite on par with Carminas, as the leather was noticeably stiffer and the finishing was a little sloppy. But they were in the sub 400SGD price bracket.
However, things may have changed, and Patrik thinks fairly highly of them. And I do trust him.
Jesper also pointed out that they use leather (instead of leatherboard) insoles and leatherboard (instead of celastic) heel counters. These are all good things.
Only thing is if the open channel outsoles bother you or not.

Now that you've mentioned it, they do look very similar.

On Markowski's site, the shoes are listed as made in Portugal too.

I'm assuming for his own range, Carlos Santos finishes their shoes to a higher quality?

When Carminas were around $400, it was definitely one of the best price-to-quality ratio. Now that Carminas are around $650 (~40% increase), what are your thoughts?

 

[likehotbutter]

When Carminas were around $400, it was definitely one of the best price-to-quality ratio. Now that Carminas are around $650 (~40% increase), what are your thoughts?

650 if top up 30-50 can get you handwelted vass and enzo imo

 

[likehotbutter]

Jumper boots for SG $400....

Are my eyes deceiving me. Thats even cheaper than cobbler union

Patrik y yu do diz

 

[likehotbutter]

Meermin's style 101381? Apparently those who've tried the Ron last have found that it lacking. Massive heel slip or something like that. I'll leave it to LHB and ball to give you details.

Its just a last not really suited for smaller azn feet. But try first Edward, you may never know. Go carousell and hunt

Sizing loafers quite difficult online tbh

 

[urbanturban]

In the review blog, i think C.S. had 3 tiers of shoemaking, (1) blake stitched, (2) GYW and (3) hand welted/closed channel.

They are at various price points and of course done to different specifications of the retailer/brand they make for.

I am inclined to wait for the reviews of buyers who bought the initial batch to comment.

 

[terras14]

Any opinions regarding Meermin's suede tassel loafers & Loake's one?

I have got the loake lincoln and the last is quite sleek. I have the loafer in 6.5uk and the strand in 6.5uk. No need size down. Meermin I have no experience but generally the ron last needs to size down. Let me know abt your experience if u decide to get the meermin.

 

[thundermarch]

Now that you've mentioned it, they do look very similar.

On Markowski's site, the shoes are listed as made in Portugal too.

I'm assuming for his own range, Carlos Santos finishes their shoes to a higher quality?

When Carminas were around $400, it was definitely one of the best price-to-quality ratio. Now that Carminas are around $650 (~40% increase), what are your thoughts?

On their site, I just checked as well, they apparently have changed their derby design to 2 eyelets. Prob to distinguish themselves .... somewhat.

I can make no assumptions or claims about Carlos Santos' own range as I do not own them. But I might not mind giving em a try just for the heck of it.
Jesper (shoegazing) seems to speak highly of their finish, though.

With regards to Carmina's new price point, one guy on SF has put it quite eloquently, that they are creeping closer and closer to the "f**k off" territory. IMO, they're already there.

Speaking of which, I think in terms of direction, looking at how things are going, I think SG prices for Carmina will be increasing further. I have a very strong feeling that Carmina will be stopping their online retailers shipping to SG, or forcing a further price hike for us. If there is something you guys still want to get from Carmina, now is probably the time.

 

[starsandstripes]

I was trying to find the previous version of their derby (3 eyelets) and found your photo, along with your review.

 

[thundermarch]

In the review blog, i think C.S. had 3 tiers of shoemaking, (1) blake stitched, (2) GYW and (3) hand welted/closed channel.

They are at various price points and of course done to different specifications of the retailer/brand they make for.

I am inclined to wait for the reviews of buyers who bought the initial batch to comment.

Actually I think for their handgrade line, they are still GYW, if you read the blog review closely, albeit with fiddle waists and closed channels.

I think Patrik is going to concentrate working on the GYW range as he does wish to give a clear price point distinction (from Carmina) for what is perceived to be otherwise (apart from the open channels) equivalent quality overall. His target group for CS is very clear.

 

[K|muRa^84]

650 if top up 30-50 can get you handwelted vass and enzo imo

Shame the enzo selection on skoak is rather limited

 

[likehotbutter]

Shame the enzo selection on skoak is rather limited

Gmto haha

Post on reddit and styleforum to get more peeps

 

[urbanturban]

Shame the enzo selection on skoak is rather limited

MTO is 15% more. Which is really very good actually

 

[terras14]

Just topydoed my shoe with shukey suntec. Half sole 35
Worksmanship is good with about 45mins per pair of shoe