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[PetiaC]

just to update you guys... I check with dw, cheapest range is 549 and above...

DW is endorsed by celebrities who like the bold and trendy design rather than the man on the street who requires a durable and comfortable shoe or gentlemen who enjoy luxury of exotic material. Of course celebrities bring huge popularity to the products they endorse.

 

[boysdontcryy]

I highly doubt they manufacture in korea too.
from what i heard, ed's shoes aren't made here, i think they are made in vietnam.

will check out both ed and dw over the weekend and see for myself.

Wow. Suddenly, you're an expert on where shoes are made. A moment ago, you just said you were new to the scene, and just learning about all this, and your post count reflects this.

Now, you claim you know where Ed's shoes are made ... without even having seen the shoes as you've said ... That speaks a lot about one's intentions doesn't it?

All right, let's adopt the method of elimination -- list local brands who make/sell shoes, and eliminate DW and Ed et al from the list ...

 

[Carnage]

lol but what i meant was that they claimed to be a korean brand, but according to BDC, he says they are local?

I highly doubt they manufacture in korea too.
from what i heard, ed's shoes aren't made here, i think they are made in vietnam.

will check out both ed and dw over the weekend and see for myself.

A matter of misunderstanding. No harm done when all confusion is cleared up.

I don't know where ed et al's shoes are manufactured in but I'm certain his bespoke and custom line are handmade.

 

[MrGentleman]

Would appreciate your review on their primaute line and their retail service.

Went down personally on Saturday to fit the Primaute collection. Was told that the leather used this time is ANNONAY LEATHER compared to their previous RTW which are made of Italian Calf Leather.

So decided to try a pair since I am there. TBH, there are differences between their past collection and the new launch primaute based on their aesthetics. Leather wise, cant really tell a big difference unless I own them personally. So decided to buy a pair of single strap monk with patina finishing since there's no extra charge for it. And to my surprise, they actually charge the same for their boots, which are pretty decent. But too bad I am not a fan of boots.

Will update again about the leather once I break them in

 

[MrGentleman]

Wow. Suddenly, you're an expert on where shoes are made. A moment ago, you just said you were new to the scene, and just learning about all this, and your post count reflects this.

Now, you claim you know where Ed's shoes are made ... without even having seen the shoes as you've said ... That speaks a lot about one's intentions doesn't it?

All right, let's adopt the method of elimination -- list local brands who make/sell shoes, and eliminate DW and Ed et al from the list ...

How about ATELIER LLYR? Anyone?

 

[ironpatriot]

Wow. Suddenly, you're an expert on where shoes are made. A moment ago, you just said you were new to the scene, and just learning about all this, and your post count reflects this.

Now, you claim you know where Ed's shoes are made ... without even having seen the shoes as you've said ... That speaks a lot about one's intentions doesn't it?

All right, let's adopt the method of elimination -- list local brands who make/sell shoes, and eliminate DW and Ed et al from the list ...

hmm nah you're the expert.. i'm just making a general assumption that its quite unlikely shoes are actually made in korea..

i dont have to be a shoe expert, this is common sense..

i didnt claim, i heard. do you have problems reading what i wrote?
i saw people posting saying ed's shoes are made in vietnam, and hence I HEARD.

you're the expert, you make the list..

 

[PetiaC]

To my knowledge, not saying I am 100% right.

DW here is a local franchise of a Korean shoe brand/maker. Quality wise / construction I have no idea / comment.

SEOUL have a small and growing shoemaking industry. I have bought several pairs of shoes made to order, sent from Korea. Maybe is made in China send to Korea. But I highly doubt so in the turnaround time.

I am happy with my Korean shoes as I find them value for money.

 

[Carnage]

Went down personally on Saturday to fit the Primaute collection. Was told that the leather used this time is ANNONAY LEATHER compared to their previous RTW which are made of Italian Calf Leather.

So decided to try a pair since I am there. TBH, there are differences between their past collection and the new launch primaute based on their aesthetics. Leather wise, cant really tell a big difference unless I own them personally. So decided to buy a pair of single strap monk with patina finishing since there's no extra charge for it. And to my surprise, they actually charge the same for their boots, which are pretty decent. But too bad I am not a fan of boots.

Will update again about the leather once I break them in

Looks like I got to make my way down again tonight. Was asked to go down for some matters on my shoes, not sure why.

Will go see the new line vs. their 4th collection and see what's the fuss about.

 

[josephkjc]

I am abit confuse by the terms bespoke, made to measure (MTM) (some refer to as custom).
According to Wikipedia: The distinction made here is between bespoke, created without use of a pre-existing pattern, and made to measure, which alters a standard-sized pattern to fit the customer.

Ed Et Al does MTM from $500 which allows customization of leathers and colours and I suppose the design but it is based on its existing available lasts.
They can do bespoke as well by making a last based on the customer's feet, then making the shoe based on the customer's design.

Diamond Walker does MTM. But do they really do bespoke and make last according to customer's feet? From what I gathered, I do not think they use Goodyear welt.

Maybe the word bespoke is not such a clear standard and different people has different interpretation of it.

Do correct me if I am wrong or share your views between Bespoke and MTM.

 

[boysdontcryy]

I am abit confuse by the terms bespoke, made to measure (MTM) (some refer to as custom).
According to Wikipedia: The distinction made here is between bespoke, created without use of a pre-existing pattern, and made to measure, which alters a standard-sized pattern to fit the customer.

(1) Ed Et Al does MTO from $500 which allows customization of leathers and colours and I suppose the design but it is based on its existing available lasts.
(2) They can do bespoke as well by making a last based on the customer's feet, then making the shoe based on the customer's design.

Diamond Walker does MTM. But do they really do bespoke and make last according to customer's feet? From what I gathered, I do not think they use Goodyear welt.

Maybe the word bespoke is not such a clear standard and different people has different interpretation of it.

Do correct me if I am wrong or share your views between Bespoke and MTM.

Your definition is more or less correct. 1) is MTO, gives you the opportunity to choose leathers, colours etc. 2) is bespoke. A last to suit your feet + choose leathers, colours etc.

There never used to be a need to distinguish between them, because they were synonymous.

 

[ironpatriot]

Interesting. So you have common sense ... can guess, and can assume, then why bother to ask for a comprehensive list of where shoes are made in? Trolling? Or trying to do something else?

can guess can assume, but waiting for the expert to enlighten me.
everyone can make assumptions, and since you know, why not do a list for everyone.
don't be selfish
thanks

 

[boysdontcryy]

can guess can assume, but waiting for the expert to enlighten me.
everyone can make assumptions, and since you know, why not do a list for everyone.
don't be selfish
thanks

You know, your posts and tone really show how juvenile you are. Grow up, kid. Stop creating accounts and using means to foster doubts about customer service, where they're made, and attempt to run other brands down. Instead of mud-slinging at other brands, try a more positive approach to marketing, by letting your products (prospective products if you're a new entrant) speak for themselves. Running other brands, that people took time to create and cultivate, down, is detrimental to the scene in Singapore as a whole.

My last word on this: I never claimed to know where all shoes are made. In fact, you were the one who claimed to know where DW is from etc, based on their Wordpress post. If DW is a Korean label (different from Korea-made, or sold under a different name), it'd be nice to see a Korean webpage, if the name, Diamond Walker, is as big as is claimed. If there is one, good to know.

 

[jonleelk]

To my knowledge, not saying I am 100% right.

DW here is a local franchise of a Korean shoe brand/maker. Quality wise / construction I have no idea / comment.

SEOUL have a small and growing shoemaking industry. I have bought several pairs of shoes made to order, sent from Korea. Maybe is made in China send to Korea. But I highly doubt so in the turnaround time.

I am happy with my Korean shoes as I find them value for money.

Does look like a Korean brand.

THE JOURNEY of DIAMOND WALKER BESPOKE SHOES | a.Fasione

I simple man. Just give me a pair of English made calf leather shoes will do.

 

[Carnage]

Ed Et Al does MTM from $500 which allows customization of leathers and colours and I suppose the design but it is based on its existing available lasts.
They can do bespoke as well by making a last based on the customer's feet, then making the shoe based on the customer's design.

Correction: MTO is not MTM. It's just customisation for the leathers and colours. You don't get to choose the lasts you want. That's their custom line which costs $800 upwards.

 

[boysdontcryy]

Correction: MTO is not MTM. It's just customisation for the leathers and colours. You don't get to choose the lasts you want. That's their custom line which costs $800 upwards.

Ya. Sorry. You're right. MTO. I was still in the suiting frame-of-mind.

 

[ironpatriot]

You know, your posts and tone really show how juvenile you are. Grow up, kid. Stop creating accounts and using means to foster doubts about customer service, where they're made, and attempt to run other brands down. Instead of mud-slinging at other brands, try a more positive approach to marketing, by letting your products (prospective products if you're a new entrant) speak for themselves. Running other brands, that people took time to create and cultivate, down, is detrimental to the scene in Singapore as a whole.

My last word on this: I never claimed to know where all shoes are made. In fact, you were the one who claimed to know where DW is from etc, based on their Wordpress post.

1. I'm not fostering doubts about customer service.
- i asked and enquired, i never slated any brands.
- all for the sake of understanding how the entire customer experience would be like.

2. Doubts about where the shoes are made were based on what I have seen in this forum itself, and not something I conjured up on my own.

3. Who is mud-slinging other brands? I have not said anything against any of the brands that can be deemed as mud-slinging. I have not gave my own perspective yet as I have yet to step into anyone of the shops, will do so when I have.

4. You clearly think too highly of yourself to question me being juvenile if you cannot hold a proper argument and make no sense with whatever you are saying.

5. You were the one that said you believed that DW is a Singaporean label no? Or was that also me? I did not claim, i quoted from their website, which is what people generally do when they are doing research, which is go to the company's webpage.

Thanks.

 

[Seannie]

so what are you trying to say?
are DW shoes from seoul or not?
are they made in singapore or seoul?
or is it a singaporean brand made in seoul?

you seem to know everything, please enlighten me.

if Dw bluff me, i also have nothing to say, but this is what the shop people have claimed, up to you to believe or not: DW shoes is made in korea. After taking down my feet measurements they send to korea to make the shoes. I was emailed my order list with korean words. Took more than 6 weeks before my shoes arrive in sg. If people say that it is made in singapore or other places, just listen lor not necessary take their words so seriously. Anyway i cant be bothered abt the details, ultimately i am a very happy DW customer who thinks my $ is well spent, that is the important part, at least shoes is v comfy & looks dashing. Worth or not worth i dont give a hoot. And about DW shoes being flashy i dont agree, its just being unique. It really is up to individual. If old uncles are too conservative & not daring to try out new things just let them be. I dont feel that dress shoes must forever be in dull boring colours or designs, as long as it is not overdone.

 

[boysdontcryy]

1. I'm not fostering doubts about customer service.
- i asked and enquired, i never slated any brands.
- all for the sake of understanding how the entire customer experience would be like.

2. Doubts about where the shoes are made were based on what I have seen in this forum itself, and not something I conjured up on my own.

3. Who is mud-slinging other brands? I have not said anything against any of the brands that can be deemed as mud-slinging. I have not gave my own perspective yet as I have yet to step into anyone of the shops, will do so when I have.

4. You clearly think too highly of yourself to question me being juvenile if you cannot hold a proper argument and make no sense with whatever you are saying.

5. You were the one that said you believed that DW is a Singaporean label no? Or was that also me? I did not claim, i quoted from their website, which is what people generally do when they are doing research, which is go to the company's webpage.

Thanks.

Cool story, troll

You don't need to do things directly. I don't have to say 'DW shoes are bad ...'. I can pose it in the form of a question like 'Are the shoes flashy and uncomfortable?'. Same effect, different means of communication. Quoting a post on Ed et al, and asking 'Is customer service bad? I hate bad customer service ...' Self-explanatory.

Your posts were gng in that direction. Maybe you stopped because you were caught out so soon. I usually ignore socks promoting their wares, but if one creates multiple accounts to try and foster doubts in order to put other brands down, it's quite detrimental to the scene as a whole.

You obviously don't even know what you're talking about. Singapore-label/name given to the shoes, but made in Korea or sold under a different name in Korea that is immensely popular in Korea, not plausible? That's what a friend who knows them well told me. But if he's wrong, sure ... Like I said, it'd be nice to see a Korean webpage on the Diamond Walker brand/label ...

If you're curious, Girling shoes used to be manufactured in the Alfred Sargent workshop. Is Girling, well, a brand of itself, or is it part of the Alfred Sargent brand? If DKNY makes clothing in India using an Indian factory. Is DKNY an Indian brand/label?

 

[Seannie]

oh by the way, DW shop also employs a korean girl, for what rationale im not sure, but surely not just to put on a show to convince people its really korean? My guess is that they need to have a korean staff in sg in order to communicate with the korean people who may be taking down our orders and shoe details etc.

 

[runforyourlife]

DW is endorsed by celebrities who like the bold and trendy design rather than the man on the street who requires a durable and comfortable shoe or gentlemen who enjoy luxury of exotic material. Of course celebrities bring huge popularity to the products they endorse.

endorsement aside, this is what i got! i think its pretty cool but probably e designs are very very loud. will suit some others probably not me haha.

For our new premium range of full-grain Italian calfskin leathers from Italy, our handmade & made-to-measure basic shoes start from $549 upwards. With boots starting from $649. This new range of shoes, comes with full inner lining made of cow hide, incorporates a mid-sole with steel shank for more stability as well as options such as a hidden insoles for a height boost and other refinements such as various good quality outsole materials in leather and Vibram Morflex rubber outsoles.