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Hi guys. My gf just bought me this pair of shoes from abroad. Don't look cheap. Hope to wear them for as long as possible. How do you guys normally wear these shoes? As it is? Or stick some rubber to protect the soles?

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Dr Sheldon, good pair of shoe. Some tips for you:

1) Don't wear them each day. Allow it to breathe on alternate days.
2) Use a shoe tree.
3) Use cream to nourish them once in a while
4) Keep it dry
5) Whether we need to put on a topy (rubber) sole, the mileage may differ. I do it for some of my shoes (those i wear on rainy days). I don't for the other shoes.
6) Polish it once in a while to keep them shiny.
 

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Hi guys. My gf just bought me this pair of shoes from abroad. Don't look cheap. Hope to wear them for as long as possible. How do you guys normally wear these shoes? As it is? Or stick some rubber to protect the soles?
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Not advisable. have you seen how the cobbler add a protective rubber sole?
they use a machine to grind part of the sole to make the leather sole rough
and then apply a layer of glue to it.

the grinding will spoilt the leather and thus making it not strong.
 

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Dr Sheldon, good pair of shoe. Some tips for you:

1) Don't wear them each day. Allow it to breathe on alternate days.
2) Use a shoe tree.
3) Use cream to nourish them once in a while
4) Keep it dry
5) Whether we need to put on a topy (rubber) sole, the mileage may differ. I do it for some of my shoes (those i wear on rainy days). I don't for the other shoes.
6) Polish it once in a while to keep them shiny.

Not advisable. have you seen how the cobbler add a protective rubber sole?
they use a machine to grind part of the sole to make the leather sole rough
and then apply a layer of glue to it.

the grinding will spoilt the leather and thus making it not strong.

Thanks guys. Do you have a recommendation for the cream/shoe trees?

Another question here. If I do not add a rubber sole, once the sole wears out, I have to throw the shoes away? Or still possible to repair/resole next time?
 

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Do you have a recommendation for the cream/shoe trees?

If I do not add a rubber sole, once the sole wears out, I have to throw the shoes away? Or still possible to repair/resole next time?

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P.s. I got my Topy without grinding off a layer at The Arcade. http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/85929409-post6177.html
 

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Not advisable. have you seen how the cobbler add a protective rubber sole?
they use a machine to grind part of the sole to make the leather sole rough
and then apply a layer of glue to it.

the grinding will spoilt the leather and thus making it not strong.

Orly. Why can't it be that a portion of the leather sole is, as you say, grinded away in order for the rubber topy to be flush with the rest of the sole, and therefore enabling the shoe to be worn as it was intended?

I don't even know how to respond to the statement that grinding will spoilt the leather and make it "not strong". It's not like half the sole is being filed away, and neither would it compromise the integrity of the shoe - unless they're poorly constructed (which one wouldn't expect from a pair of Church's...)
 

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Not advisable. have you seen how the cobbler add a protective rubber sole?
they use a machine to grind part of the sole to make the leather sole rough
and then apply a layer of glue to it.

the grinding will spoilt the leather and thus making it not strong.


Aisyoz knows what he is talking about. Do not do anything that roughs up the leather - including wearing your shoes outdoors. Then not strong... not strong.
 

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Not advisable. have you seen how the cobbler add a protective rubber sole?
they use a machine to grind part of the sole to make the leather sole rough
and then apply a layer of glue to it.

the grinding will spoilt the leather and thus making it not strong.
Am I the only one who :s13: -ed at this?
 

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I agree with aisyoz.

I will not risk send my $300 shoes to your local cobbler where they will throw a cheap sole on the shoe using who-knows-what techniques.

I rather send back to the manufacturers for resole
 

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I agree with aisyoz.

I will not risk send my $300 shoes to your local cobbler where they will throw a cheap sole on the shoe using who-knows-what techniques.

I rather send back to the manufacturers for resole

Alamak. I post here in the end same dilemma. Dunno to wear as it is. Or add the topy. Haha.

Any idea how much will it cost to resole???
 

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Alamak. I post here in the end same dilemma. Dunno to wear as it is. Or add the topy. Haha.

Any idea how much will it cost to resole???

Got my Topy without grinding off a layer at The Arcade. http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/85929409-post6177.html

Wearing Loake Guildhall http://www.loake.co.uk/guildhall.html

Shoe Shine by John Chung from Mason & Smith http://instagram.com/p/oe_jQfKmC_/

Need Shoe Trees? http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/68253739-post5.html
 
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I agree with aisyoz.

I will not risk send my $300 shoes to your local cobbler where they will throw a cheap sole on the shoe using who-knows-what techniques.

I rather send back to the manufacturers for resole

I agree with Zoysia. $300 is seriously big fk. Cannot give to local cobblers who use cheap who-knows-what methods.
 

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Alamak. I post here in the end same dilemma. Dunno to wear as it is. Or add the topy. Haha.

Any idea how much will it cost to resole???

It's a personal preference, no right or wrong. Re-soling by manufacturers dont come cheap if i am not wrong. Shipping plays a huge part, expect about $120 for 2-way shipping alone to europe.
 

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Why spend more than 20% of the shoe costs to repair? Maybe it makes more sense to buy a new one.

That is why i think topy is really a matter of preference. I do topy sometimes, but I just leave some shoes 'bare' as is too.
 

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Why spend more than 20% of the shoe costs to repair? Maybe it makes more sense to buy a new one.

That is why i think topy is really a matter of preference. I do topy sometimes, but I just leave some shoes 'bare' as is too.

The reason that people go for shoe repair is because it's cheaper to do than buying a new pair again as most good brands are quite good at building their shoe to the point that they encourage recrafting of their shoe due to their quality build. I believe i remember that edetal offers recrafting services for their own brand at $150 and $180 for other brands.
 

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The reason that people go for shoe repair is because it's cheaper to do than buying a new pair again as most good brands are quite good at building their shoe to the point that they encourage recrafting of their shoe due to their quality build. I believe i remember that edetal offers recrafting services for their own brand at $150 and $180 for other brands.

I have only started wearing good quality (entirely subjective) GY welt dress shoes recently in the last couple of years and topy all my shoes. Rotation works out to about 1 wear a week. I personally find the argument of "good shoes better mileage" self-fulfilling in the sense that if you rotate (the main reason for better mileage IMHO) and follow a shoe care regime (shoe trees, wipedowns after each wear, regular conditioning and polishing), any shoes will naturally give you better mileage.

FWIW, previous dress shoes I wore did not see any rotation (i.e. worn about 5 times a week, consecutive days), but I made it a point to re-topy before the wooded heel gets exposed, which is roughly about 6 months, and kiwi the uppers every 3, 4 months (but no conditioning).

Those shoes lasted me about 3 years before the uppers or more often, the inner arch area of the sole gave way. And during the entire period, there was no need to re-topy the forefoot area (before the shoes died of other reasons).

Would anyone care to share with reasonable rotation (worn at least 3-6x a month?) + shoe care, what is the longest one has managed to keep your dress shoes in wearable condition with only re-topy (either heel, forefoot or both) and not re-soling? And what brand shoes are those?

Just to add for perspective, since the post is already so lengthy, while I work an office-based job, I do not drive and therefore do quite a fair bit of walking in my dress shoes.
 
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The reason that people go for shoe repair is because it's cheaper to do than buying a new pair again as most good brands are quite good at building their shoe to the point that they encourage recrafting of their shoe due to their quality build. I believe i remember that edetal offers recrafting services for their own brand at $150 and $180 for other brands.

Makes financial sense if the shoes is above $700.
At $300 a pair, spending $150 to recraft may not be a viable option.
 
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