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My first pair of LLYR shoes. New to this forum and want to share my swagger exclusive in handstained antique brown.

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I was told by Sherwin that it is goodyear welting and the inner lining is dark purple (which probably is better than red lining in case it discolours socks).
Then it was completed with Tian Tian chicken rice at the Maxwell food centre next door

Sweet shoes Bro.
The sideswept single monk look is really classy
 

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The price is quite good but honestly I don't know if I should get a pair of Carmina. And am I right that the price here is more expensive than if I buy online? Or should I go for Vass? Or both! Haha.

When in doubt. Buy both
but seriously speaking these 2 brands are really different and so is the pricing
But imo both give good value
 

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When in doubt. Buy both
but seriously speaking these 2 brands are really different and so is the pricing
But imo both give good value

I agree their prices are different and of different quality. It is always my wish to buy a Vass but my job requires me to go to a machine workshop every now and then. So I thought of buying a pair of lower end shoes for that purpose.
 

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Hello Trendmatrix,

Buying both is always the best option!

Well depends on your lifestyle I suppose. I think Carmina would be a good entry level shoe to begin with.


Hope you don't mind me asking, and no offence to all, what do you actually like about Vass, I always wondered what are the main reasons why people like Vass, I do like them to a certain extend that I feel I should have one, which reminds me I need to get one soon!But I would like to know what about Vass does people like especially in Singapore.

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Ho

I agree their prices are different and of different quality. It is always my wish to buy a Vass but my job requires me to go to a machine workshop every now and then. So I thought of buying a pair of lower end shoes for that purpose.
 

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I agree their prices are different and of different quality. It is always my wish to buy a Vass but my job requires me to go to a machine workshop every now and then. So I thought of buying a pair of lower end shoes for that purpose.

Actually to me i would be a bit heart pain if i trashed any of my carminas. In fact at their price point they're already pretty mid range. Very decent quality with very good construction. And varied designs ... Something for everyone.
Actually if you're talking about entry level shoes you can consider meermin or duggers. Still good value.
 

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Actually to me i would be a bit heart pain if i trashed any of my carminas. In fact at their price point they're already pretty mid range. Very decent quality with very good construction. And varied designs ... Something for everyone.
Actually if you're talking about entry level shoes you can consider meermin or duggers. Still good value.

I usually wear a pair of Church's to the workshop. But I have sent it back to England for resoling. So I thought I need another pair now. Thanks for the recommendation. Will consider them!
 
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Hello Trendmatrix,

Buying both is always the best option!

Well depends on your lifestyle I suppose. I think Carmina would be a good entry level shoe to begin with.


Hope you don't mind me asking, and no offence to all, what do you actually like about Vass, I always wondered what are the main reasons why people like Vass, I do like them to a certain extend that I feel I should have one, which reminds me I need to get one soon!But I would like to know what about Vass does people like especially in Singapore.

Regards,
Ho
Vass is well known for their hand made quality. For that price point, I feel it is very value for money rather than always going for the EGs or G&Gs. I also wish to have a wider variety of shoes (in terms of brands) to fill up my shoe cabinet. :)
 
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I usually wear a pair of Church's to the workshop. But I have sent it back to England for resoling. So I thought I need another pair now. Thanks for the recommendation. Will consider them!

Ah my apologies. I guess in that case if you're wearing Church's to the workshop then i think there won't be a problem wearing Carminas lol. In fact Church's are priced above them.
 

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The picture was taken right before the first wearing. As soon as I took the first few steps, my mirror polish on the right toe cap cracked. I initially blamed it on myself for applying that many layers of wax ( All my shoes are polished to a mirror shine. ) and thought that must be the reason the mirror surface cracked. Left toe is shining without any cracks.

However, even after removing and redoing my shine using a lesser amount of wax, the issue still persists. I figured that the toe stiffener isn't performing 100% ideal, thus causing the upper on the middle of the toe to crease.

They still allow you to return the shoes after polishing? I know must online retailers don't allow that.
 

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Hi all,

May I ask if I use middle brown cream + wax on a pair of mahogany shoes, what will be results?

slight difference in the colour of cream and waxes should still be fine; in fact mahogany on mid brown shoes brings out some of the vibrancy
 

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Warning: Pic heavy

Hope you don't mind me asking, and no offence to all, what do you actually like about Vass, I always wondered what are the main reasons why people like Vass, I do like them to a certain extend that I feel I should have one, which reminds me I need to get one soon!But I would like to know what about Vass does people like especially in Singapore.

Vass is handwelted, the oldest and foremost method of of shoemaking.

Goodyear welting while good, is still a factory line adaptation of traditional hand methods like handwelting and with industrialisation (and lower prices) comes compromises. For Goodyear, the compromise is a cork paste layer in lieu of a leather midsole (Problems: decay/pressure wells) and the use of glued fabric (gemming) as the holdfast. (Problems: Critical part of shoe held together by glue and cloth)

Thus while often regarded as the penultimate method of construction, there has also been abit of drama on AAAC and other foreign forums with regards to the use of glue and fabric at a critical connection in our "expensive" shoes. This is as compared to Handwelt or Blake rapid where every layer is solidly joined by a leather to leather connection and stitches. Arguably it can be said that there are also other methods considered "better" such as Veldts or the previously mentioned Blake Rapid (use of a leather midsole but stitching aloft in insole).

Handwelting( Hand channeled holdfast from thick leather midsole)
*** Virtually flat midsole to outsole surface, no need for cork filling***


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Goodyear (glued fabric gemming in place of holdfast)

***note the structural gap from the gemming that has to be filled with cork paste***

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Blake Rapid (Leather midsole but stitching may be aloft in sock liner)
***still waterproof like Goodyear due to stitch placement + slim welt***

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was anyone at the carmina event at KBKS? couldn't attend because of work! what was teh pricing like?
 

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Hi guys, got a question to ask regarding Meermin sizing. For reference, a size 7UK in Carmina'a Simpson last fits me snugly. What would be the equivalent sizing for Meermin's New Rey last?
I've emailed Meermin and their recommendation was a 8UK. Would that be an accurate recommendation? Thanks!
 

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was anyone at the carmina event at KBKS? couldn't attend because of work! what was teh pricing like?

RTW range was $650 with 15% off yesterday. MTO is $900. There was limited stock... wasn't able to hoot any cos no size.
 

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Hi guys, got a question to ask regarding Meermin sizing. For reference, a size 7UK in Carmina'a Simpson last fits me snugly. What would be the equivalent sizing for Meermin's New Rey last?
I've emailed Meermin and their recommendation was a 8UK. Would that be an accurate recommendation? Thanks!

Dude that sounds really off
I upped half a size in simpson and wear uk 9 and it fits great
my new rey is coming in a few days, i kept my simpson sizing and most ppl say new rey fits similar to simpson
you sound like at most a uk 7.5 in new rey if you find uk 7 in simpson too snug
you must take meermin's size recommendations with a good pinch of salt
they recommended i take 8 in hiro, i fit 8.5 in almost everything that does not fit too narrow. and if i took 8 in hiro i would have firebombed all my meermin shoes in hiro to oblivion. as it is, their 8.5 fits really strangely
 
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anyway dude i'll let you know how the new rey fits in comparison to my simpsons over the next few days
meanwhile ... what is your size in other lasts? for comparison's sake
 
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