Xperia New Product Announcement

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Sony use the 1 inch sensor most likely due to extra sensors available from the RX range and not many people buying dedicated cameras nowadays, and the difficulty of getting chips from the manufacturing crunch. So that's why this 1 inch sensor that is not fully utilized. A bit odd but will help Sony clear their 1 inch sensors inventory. Sony really needs to get into the computational photography game. Sony was one of the pioneers who started computational photography using the handheld twilight modes which made handheld night shots usable, don't know what happened and they like not into it now.

There are some sales charts that indicated Sony normally sells more of their APS-C models compared to full frame and 1 inch models. The camera market has always been a niche one and aside from full frame models usually purchased by the professionals, the 1 inch models are not selling as well as the APS-C ones so it is more a strategy to introduce it to the smartphone market, maybe to also attract potential competitors for more sales.
 

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There are some sales charts that indicated Sony normally sells more of their APS-C models compared to full frame and 1 inch models. The camera market has always been a niche one and aside from full frame models usually purchased by the professionals, the 1 inch models are not selling as well as the APS-C ones so it is more a strategy to introduce it to the smartphone market, maybe to also attract potential competitors for more sales.
I don't think 1 inch sensors will sell well in the mobile phone market because it requires a huge lens also and so thicker bodies, which mobile phone manufacturers are not into at the moment. 1 inch sensor compact cameras, or in fact compact cameras for that matter, is a dead market now because of mobile phones, while those who require superior quality and speed will use interchangeable lens cameras. 1 inch sensor is neither here nor there now, unless engineers can defy physics and make a lens that can keep to decent quality and small, I think it's hard to take off in mobile phones.
 

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I don't think 1 inch sensors will sell well in the mobile phone market because it requires a huge lens also and so thicker bodies, which mobile phone manufacturers are not into at the moment. 1 inch sensor compact cameras, or in fact compact cameras for that matter, is a dead market now because of mobile phones, while those who require superior quality and speed will use interchangeable lens cameras. 1 inch sensor is neither here nor there now, unless engineers can defy physics and make a lens that can keep to decent quality and small, I think it's hard to take off in mobile phones.
Like you say, that is a dying market. No harm trying it in the smartphone market for bragging rights and also partial marketing for their camera section.

Xperia 1 succeeded in pioneering the market for longer display size at their patent 21:9 ratio, with the many of the rest followed with their 20:9 ratio. :cool:
 

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Lowkey tempted sia since I do want a good discreet camera sometimes...

inb4 once again I didn't preorder it in time and later make noise/FOMO here... 😂
 

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Like you say, that is a dying market. No harm trying it in the smartphone market for bragging rights and also partial marketing for their camera section.

Xperia 1 succeeded in pioneering the market for longer display size at their patent 21:9 ratio, with the many of the rest followed with their 20:9 ratio. :cool:
Yup, let's see if other manufacturers will pick up this sensor and make a breakthrough in lens engineering which will enable usage of the full area of the sensor without being too bulky.
 

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Wah... this alone is worth more than price of admission :LOL:o_O
 

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Sony use the 1 inch sensor most likely due to extra sensors available from the RX range and not many people buying dedicated cameras nowadays, and the difficulty of getting chips from the manufacturing crunch. So that's why this 1 inch sensor that is not fully utilized. A bit odd but will help Sony clear their 1 inch sensors inventory. Sony really needs to get into the computational photography game. Sony was one of the pioneers who started computational photography using the handheld twilight modes which made handheld night shots usable, don't know what happened and they like not into it now.
Sharp R6 use the same 1 inch Sony sensor. Theirs are full 20MP.
 

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Sharp R6 use the same 1 inch Sony sensor. Theirs are full 20MP.
They sacrifice thickness for the pixel size if not wrong. Therefore Sony only utilize 60% of the sensor. But think they able to utilize the bokeh the free pixels can likely also used for proper stabilization (steady shot)

"However, in order to keep the phone small, Sony has designed a lens that can't project an image circle large enough to cover the entire area of the 1" sensor. That's why, instead of 20MP images, as you'd get from the RX100 VII camera, you get 12MP images."
Sauce : https://m.dpreview.com/news/1641689...sor-into-the-xperia-pro-i-but-there-s-a-catch
 
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