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Please correct your thread title... I don't see any rusty ship. The only rusty ship in the news recently was the USS Abraham Lincoln docked in Pattaya.
Don’t want to see, can close your eyes
 

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😂 Their state media now criticise us that we are racist.

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They are not criticising us, just reporting that within Singapore got a lot of racists remarks :o
 

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Our ships are traditionally made from steel instead of exotic composites. This contributes to the heavy dimpling of the hull plates. Rust is expected.
This ship don’t have special coating? If your rifle rust… can or not
 

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From gemini:

Carriers operate in some of the most corrosive conditions on Earth—hot temperatures, high humidity, continuous salt spray, and scorching jet blast on the flight deck. Saltwater accelerates oxidation on carbon steel rapidly.

In past decades, marine paints relied heavily on lead, chromates, and toxic anti-fouling chemicals that lasted longer and killed marine growth easily. Modern environmental regulations forced a transition to eco-friendly, lead-free polysiloxane and epoxy coatings. While safer for marine ecosystems, these newer paints require precise, dry application conditions that are nearly impossible to achieve while floating at sea.


If in house near sea will notice metallic furniture start to rust liao, not to mention something that is constantly exposed to the elements.
 

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They talking China's 官方话术。
This good promotional material for pinkies.
 

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This ship don’t have special coating? If your rifle rust… can or not
There is coating and sacrificial anodes. But rust spotting is inevitable.

Rust on a rifle exterior is fine, even expected under combat conditions. Inside though, you can’t have that because rust changes the dimensions of parts that operate at tight tolerances.

Ditto for a ship. If you can’t maintain everything, maintain the parts that matter the most. Rust spotting on a hull is generally retarded because the sacrificial anodes massively slow progression. Rust on key mechanical components on the other hand needs rectification.
 

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From gemini:

Carriers operate in some of the most corrosive conditions on Earth—hot temperatures, high humidity, continuous salt spray, and scorching jet blast on the flight deck. Saltwater accelerates oxidation on carbon steel rapidly.

In past decades, marine paints relied heavily on lead, chromates, and toxic anti-fouling chemicals that lasted longer and killed marine growth easily. Modern environmental regulations forced a transition to eco-friendly, lead-free polysiloxane and epoxy coatings. While safer for marine ecosystems, these newer paints require precise, dry application conditions that are nearly impossible to achieve while floating at sea.


If in house near sea will notice metallic furniture start to rust liao, not to mention something that is constantly exposed to the elements.
militaries don’t generally subscribe to civilian regulations. Did you know a lot of our NSMen have kit plated with Cadmium? and plenty of asbestos bearing gloves are probably still in service.

The best **** for the job often carries tradeoffs.
 

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There is coating and sacrificial anodes. But rust spotting is inevitable.

Rust on a rifle exterior is fine, even expected under combat conditions. Inside though, you can’t have that because rust changes the dimensions of parts that operate at tight tolerances.

Ditto for a ship. If you can’t maintain everything, maintain the parts that matter the most. Rust spotting on a hull is generally retarded because the sacrificial anodes massively slow progression. Rust on key mechanical components on the other hand needs rectification.
The brown spots just are too striking for me… it’s the first thing I notice… maybe it don’t really matter to the warfare warfare nowadays
 

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militaries don’t generally subscribe to civilian regulations. Did you know a lot of our NSMen have kit plated with Cadmium? and plenty of asbestos bearing gloves are probably still in service.

The best **** for the job often carries tradeoffs.
I don't know but here is what Gemini says:

No, standard issue operational gear for SAF NSmen does not contain asbestos or cadmium, and the premise that militaries ignore safety regulations for general issue gear is false.

While militaries around the world operate under exemptions from certain civilian industrial laws—allowing them to store explosives, discharge heavy weapons, or bypass standard environmental restrictions during tactical operations—their supply chains are bound by strict defense safety standards and public health laws.

Clarifying the Gear Myths​

  • Asbestos-Bearing Gloves: Standard issue gloves provided to NSmen (such as combat leather gloves, Nomex heat-resistant gloves, or load-bearing gear) do not contain asbestos. Heat-resistant military textiles use aramid synthetics like Nomex or Kevlar.
    • Where the myth comes from: In the mid-to-late 20th century, legacy military systems worldwide used asbestos for heavy industrial applications (e.g., boiler insulation in old naval ships or heavy machine gun barrel changing mitts). These were phased out decades ago due to strict bans on friable asbestos.
  • Cadmium Plating: Basic infantry gear, field packs, and personal wear are made of synthetic polymers, aluminum, and stainless steel. You will not find cadmium-plated personal kit in a standard eMart pack.
    • Where the truth lies: Cadmium electroplating is an industrial process used on critical specialized aerospace and weapons components (such as specific high-tensile aircraft bolts, missile fasteners, or marine fittings) because it offers exceptional salt-water corrosion resistance without galling. It is heavily regulated, handled exclusively by trained maintenance technicians under strict environmental controls, and is never applied to items handled casually by general infantrymen or NSmen.
 

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I don't know but here is what Gemini says:

No, standard issue operational gear for SAF NSmen does not contain asbestos or cadmium, and the premise that militaries ignore safety regulations for general issue gear is false.

While militaries around the world operate under exemptions from certain civilian industrial laws—allowing them to store explosives, discharge heavy weapons, or bypass standard environmental restrictions during tactical operations—their supply chains are bound by strict defense safety standards and public health laws.

Clarifying the Gear Myths​

  • Asbestos-Bearing Gloves: Standard issue gloves provided to NSmen (such as combat leather gloves, Nomex heat-resistant gloves, or load-bearing gear) do not contain asbestos. Heat-resistant military textiles use aramid synthetics like Nomex or Kevlar.
    • Where the myth comes from: In the mid-to-late 20th century, legacy military systems worldwide used asbestos for heavy industrial applications (e.g., boiler insulation in old naval ships or heavy machine gun barrel changing mitts). These were phased out decades ago due to strict bans on friable asbestos.
  • Cadmium Plating:Basic infantry gear, field packs, and personal wear are made of synthetic polymers, aluminum, and stainless steel. You will not find cadmium-plated personal kit in a standard eMart pack.
    • Where the truth lies: Cadmium electroplating is an industrial process used on critical specialized aerospace and weapons components (such as specific high-tensile aircraft bolts, missile fasteners, or marine fittings) because it offers exceptional salt-water corrosion resistance without galling. It is heavily regulated, handled exclusively by trained maintenance technicians under strict environmental controls, and is never applied to items handled casually by general infantrymen or NSmen.
Not anymore bro. Current issue kit most certainly does not contain Cd plating. However, AI doesn’t understand timelines.

Maybe ask it in a historical context spanning the turn of the century. Elder NSMen with the old model SBOs will be familiar with the olive fasteners and blue rust.

I ended my service only 8 years ago, and my batch still used those old model SBOs. Ditto those asbestos gloves.
 

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You never see the brown brown spots
Scrub clean one meh… 😂

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Although it looks like rust, the brown spots you see on the ship is actually not rust.

First of all, the brown spots are high up above the waterline.

The part of ships near the waterline is the part that gets repeatedly exposed to seawater, air and sunlight (which acts as a catalyst) and will rust first.



The brown spots on the ship we see from the video are actually just water stains from rainwater.

Rain water collects dirt particles in the air as it falls down, plus will gather any dirt on a ship's decks.

When it is still raining, the water flow is fast, so it doesn't leave too much stains.

However, when the rain subsides, the remaining pooled rainwater will often drain/drip slowly around the edge of window sills and other ledges.

This is when the dirt particles and minerals trapped in the rainwater have time to attach to the walls/hulls without being washed off by fast flowing water.

We see the same types of water stains on building walls, fibreglass ships and even cars.

So, these stains can in fact be scrubbed off as they are not rust.

But best done while stationarily docked at port by shipyard crews. You get untrained RSAF personel to rappel down the sides of a heaving ship at sea to scrub the hull, later have to do rescue mission. Or if they kenna sucked and diced into bits by the propellers, captain dunno need to write how many reports.
 
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Steadfast is a 21 yr old ship, not rusty then what?

We sent Col Ng to talk, they only sent NCO to respond to reporter.. dun give face leh.
 

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This ship don’t have special coating? If your rifle rust… can or not
have, but they operate in sea water which strips off the paint. and yes rifles do rust as well, that's why always ask you to oil the barrel so it won't rust.

and ships are mainly made of steel, not stainless steel. usually they visit a port at least once every 2 to 3 months, that's where the maintenance on the hull will be done. and even if the ship is in such state, it's still recoverable, they will grind away the rust then repaint the entire ship hull
 
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