[Official] Home Automation Thread

[davidwong]

Thanks bro noted.

None of them is neutral as SG switch don't have neutral at the switch. I presume you want to replace the switch with a smart switch, please read this as you'll need to bypass/give up the 2 way switching as most smart switches don't support this kind of switch- terminate with wago connector. and do wireless switch at the second location instead.

If not sure of the connections, please get a licensed electrician to do the work instead as safety comes first.

 

[shacboi]

sharing, new arrival water heater switch, EU standard though.

SG$ 23.87 50%OFF | EU WiFi Boiler Water Heater Switch 4400W Tuya Smart Life App Remote Control ON OFF Timer Voice Control Google Home Alexa Echo
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/QT1emyu

 

[zoneguard]

For sharing, Minitiger Wifi switch.

They have both Tuya and Ewelink app versions of the switch and neutral/no neutral versions. Interesting.

EU size but dimensions are 86 by 86mm.

Tuya has GH/Alexa support and local control (cloudless) is also possible. HA support is there for both cloud and cloudless versions.

 

[pustefix]

New Aqara hub, sensors, switches, etc.

https://homekitnews.com/2019/07/08/aqara-unveils-new-m2-homekit-hub-switches-locks-cameras-and-more/

 

[drkcynic]

I am also using RM mini 3 in every room. However I have replaced 4 of them after using for less than a year, do you guys have the same issue or it is just my luck. Mine has no warranty.

These are powered via USB? Where do you find a USB in every room?

 

[pustefix]

These are powered via USB? Where do you find a USB in every room?

I used an extension power plug with USB like this. I've measured the current and voltage with a USB meter and the RM mini is drawing less than 1A. If you don't trust the USB point in the extension, just plug in a USB charger.

 

[sellun]

For sharing, Minitiger Wifi switch.

They have both Tuya and Ewelink app versions of the switch and neutral/no neutral versions. Interesting.

EU size but dimensions are 86 by 86mm.

Tuya has GH/Alexa support and local control (cloudless) is also possible. HA support is there for both cloud and cloudless versions.

Anyone used the non neutral version before? How does it work? Have capacitor to keep the switch powered?

Sent from HUAWEI BLA-L29 using GAGT

 

[shacboi]

Wow.. This one seems gd, if no neutral, can use rf433mhz and WiFi, quite idea.

Just wondering EU standard 86mm by 86mm can fit our SG normal junction box right? The two screws sizes oso 60mm apart?

For sharing, Minitiger Wifi switch.

They have both Tuya and Ewelink app versions of the switch and neutral/no neutral versions. Interesting.

EU size but dimensions are 86 by 86mm.

Tuya has GH/Alexa support and local control (cloudless) is also possible. HA support is there for both cloud and cloudless versions.

 

[zoneguard]

Capacitor needed at the 1st lighting. I don't know if the hole spacing fits our UK standard 86x86mm switch box.

 

[zoneguard]

A customer from Singapore for this item commented it is compatible with our SG switch outlet.

 

[CyberMew]

So far I only see Xiaomi wall switch. How about sockets? Those able to be smart also without plugging in a middleman? And will these melt if pulling a lot of power out?

 

[drkcynic]

If i intend to smart home my new place what should I tell the ID? To add additional neutral wiring?

Does the Xiaomi Mi home works?

 

[Superbigfatdaddy]

So far I only see Xiaomi wall switch. How about sockets? Those able to be smart also without plugging in a middleman? And will these melt if pulling a lot of power out?

Yah, there are smart wall receptacles as well. Generally as long as you use them within their specification, it should be fine.

 

[Superbigfatdaddy]

If i intend to smart home my new place what should I tell the ID? To add additional neutral wiring?

Does the Xiaomi Mi home works?

Yap, but generally you will only be using it mostly for switches only.

 

[shacboi]

A customer from Singapore for this item commented it is compatible with our SG switch outlet.

Capacitor needed at the 1st lighting. I don't know if the hole spacing fits our UK standard 86x86mm switch box.

Ya, i think EU/UK is same, can fit the same box to hold the switch, hmmmm but having the capacitor there, not really sure, am I right to say the capacitor is placed at the first lighting load, just put the 2 ends there n screw tight together with the wiring ??

more like an add-on to the wiring there?

Size 86*86mm Cassette Universal White Wall Mounting Box for EU/UK Socket Back Box and Wall Light Touch Switch
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32823761535.html

 

[shacboi]

Wow.. This one seems gd, if no neutral, can use rf433mhz and WiFi, quite idea.

Just wondering EU standard 86mm by 86mm can fit our SG normal junction box right? The two screws sizes oso 60mm apart?

Anyone used the non neutral version before? How does it work? Have capacitor to keep the switch powered?

Sent from HUAWEI BLA-L29 using GAGT

Not sure anybody here use this Minitiger switch before, does the switch when using RF433mhz uses dedicated on/off(like Funry/Broadlink T2) or toggle(like Livolo) mode ?

 

[drkcynic]

I am abit confused on google assistant/alexa. If you are using GA or Alexa why do you still need devices like Homey Zigzag etc? Is it that homey zigzag control frequencies while GA/Alexa controls wifi? So for smart switches which device controls it?

In any case are you guys using GA or Alexa?

 

[Superbigfatdaddy]

I am abit confused on google assistant/alexa. If you are using GA or Alexa why do you still need devices like Homey Zigzag etc? Is it that homey zigzag control frequencies while GA/Alexa controls wifi? So for smart switches which device controls it?

In any case are you guys using GA or Alexa?

Although I'm not using Google home nor Alexia, but I think Google home does not support all devices and neither does Homey. So I think it is just a combination of both hubs to control a wider spread of devices. Google home does support wemo smart switch I think.

Correct me if I'm wrong anyway.

 

[zoneguard]

I am abit confused on google assistant/alexa. If you are using GA or Alexa why do you still need devices like Homey Zigzag etc? Is it that homey zigzag control frequencies while GA/Alexa controls wifi? So for smart switches which device controls it?

In any case are you guys using GA or Alexa?

The flow goes like this:

You --(Voice)--Voice Assistant(GA/Alexa) --(Wifi)--Router--(Internet)--(GA/Amazon Cloud)--(Internet)--Router--Homey-- (ZWave/Zigbee)--Smart Home Device

 

[HMAN]

Today eventually I added both RF+Wi-Fi controller to control my cove light and downlight.

Using Sonoff RF WI-FI(with CE , safe to use, good build quality), come in Handy with the RF module.

3 years back, I missed doing up the full house control .
Today, take the courage to take out downlights to insert the Wi-Fi control module, did break one spring arm of the LED light (not as easy as what were illustrated on YouTube).

Always messy to DIY after renovation is done

As I am electrically trained, product safety is always my concern. After experiment with those external Wi-Fi switch for 2 years, knowing its reliability, today slot in the Wi-Fi switch to the false ceiling.

Why Wi-Fi module is used but not those wall mount Wi-Fi switches?
-still maintain AC power flow control, when not in used, can totally isolate the power without AC standby .
- no neutral line at wall switch area, messy to pull one conceal line down, wife will not agreed to hack wall to lay cable.

I have 2 Google home, 1 mini and 1 nest hub home, 3 broadlink RM mini.


No dedicated home automation kits to integrate everything.
Only Google assistant to integrate the few link actions . If more complicated scenes are required, just use IFTTT with JavaScript control.

Main control are
- TV, fans, air-conditioning (hate warm, just need to On/off with fixed 20-22degC, open loop system is enough) and lighting.

-Afternoon-single Google assistant voice command or visual triggering through the Google nest hub
-On my TV, TV box, turn on ceiling fan with right speed. Start the default channel on the TV box.
* AC power sockets are hidden in recess compartment behind a features wall for TV /media box, sound bar, routers and network switches. Everyday repeating the job of flipping door to switch on/off of appliances are tough, all appliances going to AC off after use including routers.
*all power switches are Wi-Fi control thru a smart Power strip with 3 universal sockets and 2 USB-A power ports, switches are individually controllable through Wi-Fi.

-Going to bed, switch off all , TV box is switched off through IR shutdown then do the USB power off and DC ceiling fan to standby.


-Lightings off after I move to master bedroom .

-weekdays morning, morning rush, Google mini at bathroom run 25 minutes of class 95 FM Radio playback, so that I must finish my business within 25 minutes.
- bedside lamp light up at my wake up time, within a minute , Google mini play radio. Wash up done, light off.
-weekend, switch on sound bar, sound bar booting time is slow and will not default to On mode when AC POWER is applied , still failed to time it correctly to start Chromecast Spotify over.

All these are simple control, I don't need a complicated bridging system

Till now use up 20++ IP addresses, still no need to go zeebee, zwave kind of mesh network.
All toys are Google assistant compatible so that voice commands can be used easily.

Home automation can be done with rojak appliances without the dedicated gateway

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