*Official* Shiny Things club - Part 2

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You understand this doesn't really make any sense, right?

If CSPX split 100-for-1, so it was $2.81 instead of $281, you might be able to buy 100 shares instead of 1 share (for example). But it would move one-one-hundredth as much - if the S&P 500 went up 1%, then our "split CSPX" would go up by 2.8 cents, but the actual CSPX would go up by $2.80. You'd make the same amount of money either way: either 2.8 cents per share on 100 shares, or $2.80 per share on one share.

That all said: you're investing for the long term, and you want to diversify, not go all-in on the USA. So IWDA is the right thing to buy anyway.

The main advantage of cheaper shares is that you are left with less cash after buying your allotment per month and hence reducing the cash drag. Sure, you carry it over to the next month to buy and it doesn't matter much in the long run, but it just look a little less pretty (some of us have OCD).
 

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Currently using... we both are using BoA savings, checking accounts and credit and debit cards. Just because... BoA is nearest to us. Haha. Any good recommendations? :D
Not them. ;) At least, not after you leave.

Here’s the “ideal” bank or credit union account:

1. No minimum balance requirement.

2. Low or no fees, including especially no debit/ATM card foreign transaction fee or incoming wire fee.

3. Free Bill Pay (so you can pay somebody in the U.S. in a pinch if you need to).

4. Doesn’t mind foreign addresses and F-1/F-2 visa holders.

5. Online and mobile friendly, e.g. it’d be nice to be able to deposit the oddball U.S. paper check using your smartphone.

I think I’m going to suggest Alliant Credit Union, which hits all these marks. That’s the credit union serving United Airlines employees, and others. (There are a few United employees in Singapore, so a Singapore mailing address isn’t a big deal — although like most institutions you have to opt for electronic statements to avoid a paper statement fee.) It costs US$10 to join (donation to a charity) if you don’t otherwise qualify for membership, and that’s it for life. Their High-Interest Checking Account pays decent interest on balances, and their ATM card is almost as globally fabulous as Schwab’s. (Instead of unlimited ATM operator fee rebates it’s US$20 maximum per month. And there’s no foreign currency markup — just the Visa network’s 1% charge.) They also offer a savings account which pays excellent interest, and if you don’t think you’ll ever use the Bill Pay feature or use an ATM that levies an operator fee then that’s enough. (Savings accounts are limited to 6 withdrawals per month, but cash withdrawn at an ATM doesn’t count.) You can have both, of course.

Like other institutions they have inactive and dormant account rules, so just make sure you understand those rules. A 50 cent steamed bun purchase using your chip-based Visa debit card is entirely sufficient for recording activity on the account and resetting the inactivity clock. So is ACH transferring a penny to or from your Schwab account.

There’s no tax on the interest if you’re a non-U.S. person outside the U.S. (or in some cases inside — F-1/F-2, I believe). Just file your W-8BEN, and you’re all set. You should be able to have separate or joint accounts, as you prefer. With separate accounts you should be able to set up reciprocal PoD arrangements. Or one of you can have savings, the other checking, both with PoDs to the other. As you prefer.

I suggest looking through DepositAccounts.com to find other candidates, but I think that one is a very good one, a “keeper” (along with a Schwab One account).
 

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The main advantage of cheaper shares is that you are left with less cash after buying your allotment per month and hence reducing the cash drag. Sure, you carry it over to the next month to buy and it doesn't matter much in the long run, but it just look a little less pretty (some of us have OCD).

If CSPX split 100-for-1, so it was $2.81 instead of $281, you might be able to buy 100 shares instead of 1 share (for example). But it would move one-one-hundredth as much - if the S&P 500 went up 1%, then our "split CSPX" would go up by 2.8 cents, but the actual CSPX would go up by $2.80. You'd make the same amount of money either way: either 2.8 cents per share on 100 shares, or $2.80 per share on one share.

That all said: you're investing for the long term, and you want to diversify, not go all-in on the USA. So IWDA is the right thing to buy anyway.
How about XD9U, listed in London? It trades at about US$77/share right now, fund size looks OK to me, TER is 0.07%, and it tracks the slightly broader MSCI USA index (about 130 additional U.S. listed stocks just below the S&P 500 cutoff).

I’m not necessarily recommending you do this, just pointing out how you could.
 

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Haha I do carry the balance cash over to next month to buy more. My IBKR is cash account, so I just transfer a fix amount into my account every month, and just see how much IWDA i can buy. So it will come to a point that as I top up, there will be some small leftover cash in my account, then I can also choose to buy other stuff, like stocks or other etf.

My previous qns hasnt been answered I think. Is buying EIMI a hedge/bet on emerging markets for the long term?

The main advantage of cheaper shares is that you are left with less cash after buying your allotment per month and hence reducing the cash drag. Sure, you carry it over to the next month to buy and it doesn't matter much in the long run, but it just look a little less pretty (some of us have OCD).
 

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How about XD9U, listed in London? It trades at about US$77/share right now, fund size looks OK to me, TER is 0.07%, and it tracks the slightly broader MSCI USA index (about 130 additional U.S. listed stocks just below the S&P 500 cutoff).

I’m not necessarily recommending you do this, just pointing out how you could.

The TER is surprising low. It's an Xtracker ETF, to which my first thought was that it is a synthetic ETF, but its factsheet says full replication...

https://etf.dws.com/LUX/ENG/Download/Factsheet/IE00BJ0KDR00/-/MSCI-USA-UCITS-ETF

Yes, EIMI covers the emerging markets. Is it worth while? Maybe. Emerging markets are (forever) emerging.

Yes, EIMI covers the emerging markets. Is it worth while? Maybe. Emerging markets are (forever) emerging.
 

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Speaking of Xtrackers, I just saw on equal weights XDEW. A slightly higher expense at 0.25, but Equal weights have it's advantages. Thinking of alternating this and IWDA monthly.
 

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Can I suggest that instead of a financial planner, you should look for a career counselor? (And maybe a therapist as well—I can’t imagine your better half is too pleased with having you sitting around unemployed, not wanting to get a job, and shouting at the kids all day.)

Can i suggest that you and BBCwatcher stop replying to him? I love to read a healthy debate any time but this guy is just turning ppl off. It seems he's more interested in stating the size of his portfolio and how much experience he has

He's just like ppl who go to a doctor and rejecting the younger doctor's diagnosis because it isn't music to his age old and wizened ears or that it doesn't corroborate what he has gotten off Google
 

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Can i suggest that you and BBCwatcher stop replying to him? I love to read a healthy debate any time but this guy is just turning ppl off. It seems he's more interested in stating the size of his portfolio and how much experience he has

He's just like ppl who go to a doctor and rejecting the younger doctor's diagnosis because it isn't music to his age old and wizened ears or that it doesn't corroborate what he has gotten off Google

Did he say how much he has? Im curious about his net worth vs age for him to feel this way
 

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Repost :)

Hi everyone,

I need help to decide if I should opt for A35 from POSB-IS or MBH from OCBC BCIP.

OCBC BCIP
-Buying 0.3% of the total investment amount or S$5 per counter, whichever is higher.
-Selling 0.3% of the total sales proceeds or S$5 per counter, whichever is higher.

POSB-IS
- A sales charge of 0.5% will be deducted from investment amount into the ABF Singapore Bond Index Fund. Currently no sales charge for selling.

It looks like POSB-IS (A35) is the platform to go for? Would the better yield from MBH more than compensate the cheaper sales commission of A35 from POSB-IS?

Thanks!
Why not buy direct from DBS Vickers?
I bought 10k @ 1.04 and was charged $17.80 additional, effectively 0.17%.
 

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Hi guys - I'm at my wit's end here. And I know the question has been asked before.

Basically I am trying to transfer my POSB Invest Saver ETFs to CDP, because it is not a permissible broker/investment custodian in where I work.

But after two visits to separate DBS branches, the staff are still telling me it is not doable, and I would have to redeem/sell it. I even showed them the transfer form that has been shared in this thread.

Any kind souls who has done the same tell me if it is still doable and which branch is the best to do it?
 

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You can’t do it. It’s different. Only sell and buy back at market price.

Hi guys - I'm at my wit's end here. And I know the question has been asked before.

Basically I am trying to transfer my POSB Invest Saver ETFs to CDP, because it is not a permissible broker/investment custodian in where I work.

But after two visits to separate DBS branches, the staff are still telling me it is not doable, and I would have to redeem/sell it. I even showed them the transfer form that has been shared in this thread.

Any kind souls who has done the same tell me if it is still doable and which branch is the best to do it?
 

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Hi! Thanks commenting on my post. I am just starting out so the contribution amount is small. Not more than SGD5000 a year🙂

Why not buy direct from DBS Vickers?
I bought 10k @ 1.04 and was charged $17.80 additional, effectively 0.17%.
 

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You can’t do it. It’s different. Only sell and buy back at market price.

Is that really the case?

I've searched the thread and there has been a few of such instances actually. So I'm now really, really confused.
 

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Speaking of Xtrackers, I just saw on equal weights XDEW. A slightly higher expense at 0.25, but Equal weights have it's advantages. Thinking of alternating this and IWDA monthly.

Yeah nah, I wouldn't say this. This is another one of those Pokemon ETFs.

Equal-weighting is basically a sneaky way of putting in a small-cap tilt. It was briefly popular a few years back because it looks great in back-tests, but the small-cap factor hasn't really worked very well in a long time; small caps don't outperform any more. I wouldn't bother, you're just making your portfolio more complicated.

Why not buy direct from DBS Vickers?
I bought 10k @ 1.04 and was charged $17.80 additional, effectively 0.17%.

Because most people are buying a few hundred dollars a month, not ten grand worth. For small monthly contributions, POSB IS is great because it doesn't have a minimum brokerage amount.

Hi guys - I'm at my wit's end here. And I know the question has been asked before.

Basically I am trying to transfer my POSB Invest Saver ETFs to CDP, because it is not a permissible broker/investment custodian in where I work.

But after two visits to separate DBS branches, the staff are still telling me it is not doable, and I would have to redeem/sell it. I even showed them the transfer form that has been shared in this thread.

Any kind souls who has done the same tell me if it is still doable and which branch is the best to do it?

Unfortunately they're right. You can't transfer POSB IS holdings to CDP; you'll have to sell them and re-buy through a different broker.

Anyone know if dbs vickers offers forex trading? If yes,what platform?

Don't trade foreign exchange.

For retail investors, FX trading is basically glorified gambling.

Is the Regular Savings Plan the only automated way to purchase ETFs automatically on a monthly basis?

These RSPs are the only good way, let's say. I'm still looking for a good roboadvisor that would do all of this for you.
 

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Yeah nah, I wouldn't say this. This is another one of those Pokemon ETFs.

Equal-weighting is basically a sneaky way of putting in a small-cap tilt. It was briefly popular a few years back because it looks great in back-tests, but the small-cap factor hasn't really worked very well in a long time; small caps don't outperform any more. I wouldn't bother, you're just making your portfolio more complicated.



Because most people are buying a few hundred dollars a month, not ten grand worth. For small monthly contributions, POSB IS is great because it doesn't have a minimum brokerage amount.



Unfortunately they're right. You can't transfer POSB IS holdings to CDP; you'll have to sell them and re-buy through a different broker.



Don't trade foreign exchange.

For retail investors, FX trading is basically glorified gambling.



These RSPs are the only good way, let's say. I'm still looking for a good roboadvisor that would do all of this for you.

The latest stashaway optimizing of portfolio to pure equities, 72% US equity & 27% international equities.

kinda like IDWA?
 

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Because most people are buying a few hundred dollars a month, not ten grand worth. For small monthly contributions, POSB IS is great because it doesn't have a minimum brokerage amount.

That being said, how would you advise ChinoGirl? I'm actually quite curious myself - is it more sensible to purchase MBH with OCBC BCIP or A35 with POSB-IS?
 

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That being said, how would you advise ChinoGirl? I'm actually quite curious myself - is it more sensible to purchase MBH with OCBC BCIP or A35 with POSB-IS?

Fair question: I think the answer is A35 with POSB-IS.

OCBC BCIP has a $5 minimum per transaction, which makes it pretty expensive compared to POSB-IS (which has no minimum).
 

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Noted with thanks. Just asking abt it because i am thinking of getting a dbs vickers account. As i have a savings account there as well, easier to manage all in one.

I used to have a cdp account many years ago but didnt really use it. Rrcently have re activated it again by updating my signature and get the internet service account

Yeah nah, I wouldn't say this. This is another one of those Pokemon ETFs.

Equal-weighting is basically a sneaky way of putting in a small-cap tilt. It was briefly popular a few years back because it looks great in back-tests, but the small-cap factor hasn't really worked very well in a long time; small caps don't outperform any more. I wouldn't bother, you're just making your portfolio more complicated.



Because most people are buying a few hundred dollars a month, not ten grand worth. For small monthly contributions, POSB IS is great because it doesn't have a minimum brokerage amount.



Unfortunately they're right. You can't transfer POSB IS holdings to CDP; you'll have to sell them and re-buy through a different broker.



Don't trade foreign exchange.

For retail investors, FX trading is basically glorified gambling.



These RSPs are the only good way, let's say. I'm still looking for a good roboadvisor that would do all of this for you.
 

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Sorry but just a noob question:

How did the saying : burn your fingers in stocks
Come by? Can you really lose more the amount you invest?

Example you invest $1000 to buy 1 lot of stock X. If the chart go down, you lose more than $1000 until you end the trade or hold it longer?
 
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