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hey guys, im new here :)
made a workflow video of my daily flatwhite-making during **. please check it out and happy if you guys have tips or feedback. im using a breville infuser and niche zero.

[edit: it seems i cant post URLs yet :( but my video is titled "Morning Coffee & Jazz | Breville Infuser and Niche Zero" on youtube]

my current fave beans are the single-origin ethiopian Ardi Sidama from Common Man. i do like fruity stuff in general but these beans have a roast profile similar to CMCR's other espresso roasts e.g. their blends, really easy to work with (i just do a typical 1:2 which is also what is recommended by the roaster) - while acidity is high, it is also very balanced and tastes amazing with milk.
 

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hey guys, im new here :)
made a workflow video of my daily flatwhite-making during **. please check it out and happy if you guys have tips or feedback. im using a breville infuser and niche zero.

[edit: it seems i cant post URLs yet :( but my video is titled "Morning Coffee & Jazz | Breville Infuser and Niche Zero" on youtube]

my current fave beans are the single-origin ethiopian Ardi Sidama from Common Man. i do like fruity stuff in general but these beans have a roast profile similar to CMCR's other espresso roasts e.g. their blends, really easy to work with (i just do a typical 1:2 which is also what is recommended by the roaster) - while acidity is high, it is also very balanced and tastes amazing with milk.


Your routine seems pretty spot on! Did you take classes to learn latte art?

I'm not a fan of the OCD. As i don't think the OCD distributes the grounds evenly as advertised. Based on the study below it seems to perform worse in terms to total dissolved solids and did not improve consistency compare to no OCD. But heck if it works for you, the just stick with it. You could try to see if WDT works better to get a more delicious extraction. Use a fine needle.

http://socraticcoffee.com/2016/12/e...the-ocd-on-total-dissolved-solids-extraction/

If you like fruity coffee then go for natural process kenyans, ethiopians or Gesha. this one was fantastic but unfortunately its a limited run and OOS now. Can't wait to try new lots from the some producer.

https://onacoffee.com.au/product/prism-reserve/
 

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Nice video, enjoyed watching it

hey guys, im new here :)
made a workflow video of my daily flatwhite-making during **. please check it out and happy if you guys have tips or feedback. im using a breville infuser and niche zero.

[edit: it seems i cant post URLs yet :( but my video is titled "Morning Coffee & Jazz | Breville Infuser and Niche Zero" on youtube]

my current fave beans are the single-origin ethiopian Ardi Sidama from Common Man. i do like fruity stuff in general but these beans have a roast profile similar to CMCR's other espresso roasts e.g. their blends, really easy to work with (i just do a typical 1:2 which is also what is recommended by the roaster) - while acidity is high, it is also very balanced and tastes amazing with milk.
 

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Your routine seems pretty spot on! Did you take classes to learn latte art?

I'm not a fan of the OCD. As i don't think the OCD distributes the grounds evenly as advertised. Based on the study below it seems to perform worse in terms to total dissolved solids and did not improve consistency compare to no OCD. But heck if it works for you, the just stick with it. You could try to see if WDT works better to get a more delicious extraction. Use a fine needle.

If you like fruity coffee then go for natural process kenyans, ethiopians or Gesha. this one was fantastic but unfortunately its a limited run and OOS now. Can't wait to try new lots from the some producer.

thanks so much! milk steaming and “latte art” for me was simply a sh*t-ton of youtube and alot of practice - i think ** compressed my learning time tenfold but of course im still working at it.

yes ive actually taken to doing the toothpick method before the OCD-ing. i dont even tamp anymore cos i set the distribution tool the same depth as my tamper. ive realised (with the help of the bottomless porta) that the toothpick distribution is quite a guaranteed way of minimising/eliminating channeling, whereas with just the ocd tool theres a good chance i can sprays n stuff.

thanks for the beans recs! while im super new to espresso, i come from a long background of pourover coffees so im super biased towards ethiopians specifically, and find stuff to like whatever the processing method. i actually seek out espresso blends that have ethiopians in them knowing that theres a high chance ill like it haha. but happy to hear recs and always down to check out more stuff!
 

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thanks so much! milk steaming and “latte art” for me was simply a sh*t-ton of youtube and alot of practice - i think ** compressed my learning time tenfold but of course im still working at it.

yes ive actually taken to doing the toothpick method before the OCD-ing. i dont even tamp anymore cos i set the distribution tool the same depth as my tamper. ive realised (with the help of the bottomless porta) that the toothpick distribution is quite a guaranteed way of minimising/eliminating channeling, whereas with just the ocd tool theres a good chance i can sprays n stuff.

thanks for the beans recs! while im super new to espresso, i come from a long background of pourover coffees so im super biased towards ethiopians specifically, and find stuff to like whatever the processing method. i actually seek out espresso blends that have ethiopians in them knowing that theres a high chance ill like it haha. but happy to hear recs and always down to check out more stuff!

U can try strangers reunion chakra blends since you like fruit in your espresso. I find SR blends tend to use natural processed beans in their blends. Enjoy!
 

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Just watched your video and it is very nice! I’m new to espresso and wonder what your thoughts are for your Breville machine?

hey guys, im new here :)
made a workflow video of my daily flatwhite-making during **. please check it out and happy if you guys have tips or feedback. im using a breville infuser and niche zero.

[edit: it seems i cant post URLs yet :( but my video is titled "Morning Coffee & Jazz | Breville Infuser and Niche Zero" on youtube]

my current fave beans are the single-origin ethiopian Ardi Sidama from Common Man. i do like fruity stuff in general but these beans have a roast profile similar to CMCR's other espresso roasts e.g. their blends, really easy to work with (i just do a typical 1:2 which is also what is recommended by the roaster) - while acidity is high, it is also very balanced and tastes amazing with milk.
 

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Hi can anyone recommend a Cheap and good coffeebean grinder with settings? I own a hario v60 and a french press . Normally i try to grind my coffee beans with a Electronic grinder (The type for spice and beans) but the beans turn out very inconsistent.
 

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Hi can anyone recommend a Cheap and good coffeebean grinder with settings? I own a hario v60 and a french press . Normally i try to grind my coffee beans with a Electronic grinder (The type for spice and beans) but the beans turn out very inconsistent.

If you're using a blade grinder, then you're unfortunately missing out on the full potential of your beans. Get a burr grinder.

Cheapest burr grinders are manual ones. These are below $100. You will have to put some effort into the grinding as your arms are the motor turning the burrs. If you don't mind that, it's a good option. I bring one when I travel, but otherwise I would never choose to use one as it's just a pain in the butt.

Otherwise, motorised grinders pricing and quality have a big range. Something like a Baratza Encore or Vario would be something that's relatively cheap and works well.

https://www.lazada.sg/products/baratza-virtuoso-i835564359-s2836972843.html?spm=a2o42.searchlist.list.1.1a3a1c80hTlFZs&search=1

https://www.lazada.sg/products/baratza-encore-conical-burr-coffee-grinder-white-i835644050-s2837404967.html?spm=a2o42.searchlist.list.7.4e5626a57J5NlP&search=1
 

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I also suggest buy the most high end burr grinder that your budget allows, that way you can enjoy to the max and it will not outgrow you or your coffee brewing.
 

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For an established entry level machine grinder, can try the wilfa svart. It is around $200 locally. Grinds faster and quieter than its immediate competitor, Baratza encore.

Hi can anyone recommend a Cheap and good coffeebean grinder with settings? I own a hario v60 and a french press . Normally i try to grind my coffee beans with a Electronic grinder (The type for spice and beans) but the beans turn out very inconsistent.
 

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Hi can anyone recommend a Cheap and good coffeebean grinder with settings? I own a hario v60 and a french press . Normally i try to grind my coffee beans with a Electronic grinder (The type for spice and beans) but the beans turn out very inconsistent.

Just go for Niche Zero. :)
Like what one mentioned here, it’s better to get a good grinder.
 
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Any one tried parchmen coffee before? Their beans quite cheap also.
Usually I get from lamyeo but too far from me place. Don't mind paying some shipping fee because time is money haha
 

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Almost wanted to buy the niche grinder.

Found out that they are made in China. :(

This is the inside, what a tiny motor and so much plastic. :(
10168_niche_internal.jpg


It's using a tiny DC motor, look like my motor placed in my Tamiya car. :s13:

Something like this.
https://m.globalsources.com/DC-motor/DC-Motor-1092505022p.htm#1092505022


My experience with DC motor is they are not as lasting as AC motors. Motor itself is a problem, normally don't last as well. The second and more frequent problem is there should be a circuitry to convert AC power supply to DC with some filters to regulate the power, will be a costly PITA to fix if it's dead. Just like DC fans nowadays are not as reliable as those KDK AC fans used in the past.

The whole niche grinder with its chassis only weigh about 4kg! A mazzer kony with similar 63mm conical burrs weights about 20kg. Can you imagine how much plastic inside and outside is in the niche? :(
 

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Almost wanted to buy the niche grinder.

Found out that they are made in China. :(

This is the inside, what a tiny motor and so much plastic. :(
10168_niche_internal.jpg


It's using a tiny DC motor, look like my motor placed in my Tamiya car. :s13:

Something like this.
https://m.globalsources.com/DC-motor/DC-Motor-1092505022p.htm#1092505022


My experience with DC motor is they are not as lasting as AC motors. Motor itself is a problem, normally don't last as well. The second and more frequent problem is there should be a circuitry to convert AC power supply to DC with some filters to regulate the power, will be a costly PITA to fix if it's dead. Just like DC fans nowadays are not as reliable as those KDK AC fans used in the past.

The whole niche grinder with its chassis only weigh about 4kg! A mazzer kony with similar 63mm conical burrs weights about 20kg. Can you imagine how much plastic inside and outside is in the niche? :(

Maybe you can take a look at the review done by Dave Corby, he is very respected in the coffee machine industry for his no-nonsense approach. The niche body is aluminium. I am no motor expert, but my niche has been going strong, i am the first indiegogo batch.

The kony and robur are commercial size and use, cannot really compare unless you don't mind the price/size and more problematic workflow for home single dosing. The next alternative for you is the monolith conical version, but that is also using DC motor, same with many high end home grinder like the lagom, Monolith Max, EG1, Molar etc
 

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I did read that review, it's too "forgiving" and held its punches too much. The punishment tests also don't prove much. It does help to help me confirm that there's a regulator to convert AC>DC.
I prefer to understand things from my exp and engineering pov. :(

I think i will stick to my current process of throwing a few beans to flush out before making first shot since it seems that the niche will also provide a retention of 0.4 to 0.7g anyway.

zkEw4jz.png
 

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I did read that review, it's too "forgiving" and held its punches too much. The punishment tests also don't prove much. It does help to help me confirm that there's a regulator to convert AC>DC.
I prefer to understand things from my exp and engineering pov. :(

I think i will stick to my current process of throwing a few beans to flush out before making first shot since it seems that the niche will also provide a retention of 0.4 to 0.7g anyway.

zkEw4jz.png

There is some retention with single dose grinders because there will always be some grounds stuck between the burrs and exit chute. But at least there is no large grind chamber where grounds are retained until the next dose pushes it out. For designs like the EG1 there are vanes that touch the grind chamber to push out all the grinds out of the chamber into the chute. For ceado they use bellows to blow out the grinds.

You are right AC motors are generally more reliable. Cheaper too actually.

But DC motors are probably selected for grinders because of their higher starting torque (i.e. "turning power") for a compact design. This is required for designs that are low RPM... Its hard to start grinding hard beans with low RPM.

Based on my limited knowledge, DC motors also allows easier implementation for speed control....like in monolith and EG1 grinders...
AC motors requires varying the frequency of the electrical supply! e.g. 50hz-60hz....

DC motors reliability is better if you use brushless types.
 

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I did read that review, it's too "forgiving" and held its punches too much. The punishment tests also don't prove much. It does help to help me confirm that there's a regulator to convert AC>DC.
I prefer to understand things from my exp and engineering pov. :(

I think i will stick to my current process of throwing a few beans to flush out before making first shot since it seems that the niche will also provide a retention of 0.4 to 0.7g anyway.

zkEw4jz.png
0.4-0.7g retention isn't it the same as other non-single dose grinder?
 
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