Advice on DIY PC

[vince123123]

Hi everyone,

I need advice on getting a new PC Build.

Mostly productivity uses (office work, internet, some video rendering, some photo manipulations), but I need to run multiple monitors, many hard disks, and keep many windows open at a time. Need something zippy and fast as I don't wish to be slowed down by my PC while I work.

So perhaps you can describe it as a high end productivity/content creation machine; I'm not intending to use for gaming much (if at all). Problem is most of the DIY recommended builds that I searched on the internet seem to be geared towards gaming.

This is what I came up with so far, but

Intel I7-10700K 3.8GHZ LGA 1200 CPU
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-E
Corsair Veng Pro RGB 3600MHz CL18 (16GB x 2)
ASUS RX5500XT ROG STRIX GAMING OC 8GB

Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVME 1TB
CM MASTERBOX CM694 ATX W/TG (BLACK)
C.MASTER V650 V2 650W 80+ GOLD
Silverstone PF 240 AIO Liquid Cooling

Don't intend to overclock, so I'm wondering between the 10700k and 10700.
I did read about this "max turbo" on the 10700 that seems promising, so I wonder if I need an AIO liquid cooling to support that.

I also read about some possible ram speed limit of 2933 with the 10700 though.

Any comments would be welcome.

 

[hafiz116]

As an initial suggestion for your use case I would recommend you look at a AMD Ryzen build.

CPU
You can look at either the Ryzen 5 3600 (6 core 12 thread) or if you need more cores the Ryzen 7 3700X (8 core 16 thread). Would need a motherboard for it so look at a B550.

RAM
Look for a 32Gb kit rated at 3200Mhz or 3600Mhz CL16 - source from Amazon!

Storage
WD Black SN750 1TB NVMe - Source from Amazon!

Let us know if this is something you want to consider,...

 

[Mclairs83]

still got people build Intel?

 

[hafiz116]

still got people build Intel?

Those that do not know will be thinking of Intel since they used to be the gold standard! Another use case is applications that are very Intel specific. There are not many but I have seen some post on this in the past.

 

[Proxy1]

As an initial suggestion for your use case I would recommend you look at a AMD Ryzen build.

CPU
You can look at either the Ryzen 5 3600 (6 core 12 thread) or if you need more cores the Ryzen 7 3700X (8 core 16 thread). Would need a motherboard for it so look at a B550.

RAM
Look for a 32Gb kit rated at 3200Mhz or 3600Mhz CL16 - source from Amazon!

Storage
WD Black SN750 1TB NVMe - Source from Amazon!

Let us know if this is something you want to consider,...

Is Amazon that safe to buy?
I have 2 item still pending delivery and refund is so hassle.

 

[Rashkae]

Is Amazon that safe to buy?
I have 2 item still pending delivery and refund is so hassle.

Just make sure fulfillment is by Amazon SG or US, Not some weird China seller

 

[Rashkae]

Hi everyone,

I need advice on getting a new PC Build.

Mostly productivity uses (office work, internet, some video rendering, some photo manipulations), but I need to run multiple monitors, many hard disks, and keep many windows open at a time. Need something zippy and fast as I don't wish to be slowed down by my PC while I work.

So perhaps you can describe it as a high end productivity/content creation machine; I'm not intending to use for gaming much (if at all). Problem is most of the DIY recommended builds that I searched on the internet seem to be geared towards gaming.

This is what I came up with so far, but

Intel I7-10700K 3.8GHZ LGA 1200 CPU
ASUS ROG Strix Z490-E
Corsair Veng Pro RGB 3600MHz CL18 (16GB x 2)
ASUS RX5500XT ROG STRIX GAMING OC 8GB

Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVME 1TB
CM MASTERBOX CM694 ATX W/TG (BLACK)
C.MASTER V650 V2 650W 80+ GOLD
Silverstone PF 240 AIO Liquid Cooling

Don't intend to overclock, so I'm wondering between the 10700k and 10700.
I did read about this "max turbo" on the 10700 that seems promising, so I wonder if I need an AIO liquid cooling to support that.

I also read about some possible ram speed limit of 2933 with the 10700 though.

Any comments would be welcome.

Forget Intel. You should get a good Ryzen.

 

[vince123123]

Hi all, I've been out of touch for a while, so I would be grateful if you guys could shed some light and elaborate on why you would recommend AMD over Intel?

 

[hafiz116]

Is Amazon that safe to buy?
I have 2 item still pending delivery and refund is so hassle.

As Rashkae said,.. Check the actual seller and make sure its Amazon SG or Amazon US. I do not trust any other sellers as there are a lot of scammers on there these days.

 

[hafiz116]

Hi all, I've been out of touch for a while, so I would be grateful if you guys could shed some light and elaborate on why you would recommend AMD over Intel?

Basically in terms of productivity related tasks AMD has blown past Intel as they are on the 7nm manufacturing process and have managed to pack many more cores into their consumer CPU's (now 16 cores 32 threads with the Ryzen 9 3950X). The price to performance ratio is in favor of AMD now which is the reason people are all asking why Intel.

The only thing that Intel is ahead of is the single core performance which currently some games see the additional few FPS but even that is between 2-5% so even in the gaming/productivity use case the advise is to go the AMD route.

 

[vince123123]

Thanks hafiz116.

If I don't intend to overclock or run any fancy liquid cooler setup (something fuss free is good for me), would this be feasible?:

AMD Ryzen Gen 3 CPU Processor R7 3700X
Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming Wifi

Or should I get this instead:

Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming? Price difference is almost $200...

Would it be closer to, superior to or inferior to my initial proposal at the 1st post?

Basically in terms of productivity related tasks AMD has blown past Intel as they are on the 7nm manufacturing process and have managed to pack many more cores into their consumer CPU's (now 16 cores 32 threads with the Ryzen 9 3950X). The price to performance ratio is in favor of AMD now which is the reason people are all asking why Intel.

The only thing that Intel is ahead of is the single core performance which currently some games see the additional few FPS but even that is between 2-5% so even in the gaming/productivity use case the advise is to go the AMD route.

 

[vince123123]

Or maybe even this:

Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wifi (It's about the same price as the Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming Wifi)

Thanks hafiz116.

If I don't intend to overclock or run any fancy liquid cooler setup (something fuss free is good for me), would this be feasible?:

AMD Ryzen Gen 3 CPU Processor R7 3700X
Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming Wifi

Or should I get this instead:

Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming? Price difference is almost $200...

Would it be closer to, superior to or inferior to my initial proposal at the 1st post?

 

[Rashkae]

Thanks hafiz116.

If I don't intend to overclock or run any fancy liquid cooler setup (something fuss free is good for me), would this be feasible?:

AMD Ryzen Gen 3 CPU Processor R7 3700X
Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming Wifi

Or should I get this instead:

Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming? Price difference is almost $200...

Would it be closer to, superior to or inferior to my initial proposal at the 1st post?

For your purposes, no difference.

However, I would recommend using the extra $ for an nVidia card instead, so you can use nvenc

 

[NightRaven49]

it doesnt sound like ur those kind of enthusiast who cares about which nvme/pcie slot has pcie4 to the cpu or things like that, so a b550 will suffice, no need to spend the premium on an x570. also pls dont buy into brands: first intel, now asus, which is now known for really bad prices on their products with their asus tax. u lagi select their rog strix series, which is even more asus tax. u can literally go for any other board oem and they will be cheaper and still offer the same if not better features, but of course do ur research.

 

[hafiz116]

Or maybe even this:

Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wifi (It's about the same price as the Asus ROG Strix B550-E Gaming Wifi)

I would go the TUF Gaming X570 route as its a well reviewed board. In terms of cooling you can go with an AIO cooler or go air cooled but I do recommend upgrading the cooler from the stock one. Once you start to push the workload the CPU will get toasty so its advisable to keep it as cool as possible.

I have personally seen temps drop by up to 30 degrees between stock cooler vs AIO coolers. If you go the after market air cooled route then you may get temps around +10 degrees which is what I've personally seen.

 

[hafiz116]

The next question will be,.. are you going to DIY build? If so purchasing from Amazon will save you a lot,.. there is savings on practically every item with the exception of GPU and possibly Power Supply. The only challenge would be RMA especially for the Motherboard. But just for a gauge the TUF Gaming board goes for about $263 on Amazon!

 

[vince123123]

Thanks hafiz once again!

At this stage in my life, I'm more of a fuss-free person although I used to be a PC enthusiast years ago (hence the initial comment about being out of touch). I would still say I'm a power user though, although I don't play games anymore.

Between the AIO and aftermarket air cooling, I'm gravitating towards the latter to avoid problems such as pump spoil, leaking etc after 2-3 years which I've read about online. Since I'm not really overclocking, do I need an AIO cooler still? Not too sure about how much I'll need to push the CPU to based on the tasks I am doing.

For aftermarket aircooling, what would you recommend?

Finally, why would you recommend the x570 route compared to a B550 route (which was recommended by NightRaven)? It seems the major difference is the Gen 4 PCI part - how important is this?

I would go the TUF Gaming X570 route as its a well reviewed board. In terms of cooling you can go with an AIO cooler or go air cooled but I do recommend upgrading the cooler from the stock one. Once you start to push the workload the CPU will get toasty so its advisable to keep it as cool as possible.

I have personally seen temps drop by up to 30 degrees between stock cooler vs AIO coolers. If you go the after market air cooled route then you may get temps around +10 degrees which is what I've personally seen.

 

[vince123123]

I am aware that Amazon prices are really cheap, and buy most of my other PC peripherals (like HDDs etc) from there. However, Following from my comment earlier about being fuss free, I don't have a lot of time now to update myself (I used to do that long ago) or troubleshoot on DIY build, so what I intend to do is simply send a list of parts to PC Themes or Fuwell and get them to build it for me.

The next question will be,.. are you going to DIY build? If so purchasing from Amazon will save you a lot,.. there is savings on practically every item with the exception of GPU and possibly Power Supply. The only challenge would be RMA especially for the Motherboard. But just for a gauge the TUF Gaming board goes for about $263 on Amazon!

 

[vince123123]

Thanks NightRaven for your comments.

Well once upon a time I used to be those kind of enthusiast but now I just want something that works without too much fuss, and I don't mind spending a little to save some trouble. Most important aim is to have a fairly powerful PC as I still consider myself a power user (albeit an outdated one) although I don't game anymore. Intel was just something I was more familiar with in the past and was better then, but apparently over these X years, AMD seems to be good now.

What would you recommend for a motherboard then? Do feel free to ask me more questions if that would help you to help me.

it doesnt sound like ur those kind of enthusiast who cares about which nvme/pcie slot has pcie4 to the cpu or things like that, so a b550 will suffice, no need to spend the premium on an x570. also pls dont buy into brands: first intel, now asus, which is now known for really bad prices on their products with their asus tax. u lagi select their rog strix series, which is even more asus tax. u can literally go for any other board oem and they will be cheaper and still offer the same if not better features, but of course do ur research.

 

[socrates]

If you want to fuss free , perhaps look at ready to ship from Aftershock, Example below

Or even from Bizgram

I find the prices very good even when compared to DIY version