[Maylyn - Networking] ASUS ZenWiFi XT8

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Is there a reason why my Speedtest results from within the ASUS Router app is a lot faster than when going through the Speedtest app?

On Speedtest app I'm barely able to get more than 200mbps uploads, downloads are around 4-700mbps if standing next to the router. On the ASUS Router app I'm able to hit 900+download and 750 upload.

Asus router in build Speedtest is usually faster because is LAN connect from ONT/R to router.

Speedtest app (if you are on wifi) u will slower reading because is over WIFI. For my case when I use speed test APP on windows using LAN connection the result are about the same.
 

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Asus router in build Speedtest is usually faster because is LAN connect from ONT/R to router.

Speedtest app (if you are on wifi) u will slower reading because is over WIFI. For my case when I use speed test APP on windows using LAN connection the result are about the same.
Ah I see, thank you for the explanation.

I saw that someone else also has issues getting more than 200mbps upload speeds on WiFi, even when standing right next to the router/node. Anyone have an explanation or a solution?

I'm on VQ 1Gbps
 

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Ah I see, thank you for the explanation.

I saw that someone else also has issues getting more than 200mbps upload speeds on WiFi, even when standing right next to the router/node. Anyone have an explanation or a solution?

I'm on VQ 1Gbps

in brief, layman terms:
- wireless is a shared medium, wired is also shared, but less factors affecting speed.
- between router and phone, speed is determined by the slowest device
- speed can be affected by other slower devices on the wireless network
- speed can be affected by interference from other wireless devices not on your network but sharing (or overlapping) the same channel
- too near can also affect the speed, move to about 2m away

solution
- if speed is important, and circumstances support it, use wired
- if the slow speed does not affect actual use, don't pay too much attention to the speed test results. 200-300Mbps is sufficient for most general use. if it is latency/lagginess is crucial eg video calls, then wireless is not the ideal solution.
 

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I guess loganrunning answer your question.

01- Diff speedtest server will product different test result. (do take note)
02- 5ghz wifi "usually" give better speed. So do make sure your device is connected to 5ghz wifi
 

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in brief, layman terms:
- wireless is a shared medium, wired is also shared, but less factors affecting speed.
- between router and phone, speed is determined by the slowest device
- speed can be affected by other slower devices on the wireless network
- speed can be affected by interference from other wireless devices not on your network but sharing (or overlapping) the same channel
- too near can also affect the speed, move to about 2m away

solution
- if speed is important, and circumstances support it, use wired
- if the slow speed does not affect actual use, don't pay too much attention to the speed test results. 200-300Mbps is sufficient for most general use. if it is latency/lagginess is crucial eg video calls, then wireless is not the ideal solution.

I understand, but it's more a matter of trying to make sure i'm getting what I am paying for. If i'm not achieving anything close to the advertised speeds because of a firmware issue with the hardware, or a hardware issue itself, then I would be better off subscribing to a 500mbps plan in the future - if hardware change is not an option (which it is). Seeing others having a similar bottleneck in upload speeds should be a point of discussion no? I wonder if they've found a solution or fix to get rid of said bottleneck.
 

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I understand, but it's more a matter of trying to make sure i'm getting what I am paying for. If i'm not achieving anything close to the advertised speeds because of a firmware issue with the hardware, or a hardware issue itself, then I would be better off subscribing to a 500mbps plan in the future - if hardware change is not an option (which it is). Seeing others having a similar bottleneck in upload speeds should be a point of discussion no? I wonder if they've found a solution or fix to get rid of said bottleneck.
Don't confuse peak speed with total bandwidth.
You will never reach 500 Mbps per device in most day to day activities, not to mention 1 Gbps.

Maybe you finally get a device or router that can "speed test" 1 Gbps but it's all moot if all you do is watch Netflix ( 25Mbps@4K per device ) You will need to run 40 devices x 25 Mbps/unit at the same time to saturate full 1 Gbps bandwidth.
 
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I understand, but it's more a matter of trying to make sure i'm getting what I am paying for. If i'm not achieving anything close to the advertised speeds because of a firmware issue with the hardware, or a hardware issue itself, then I would be better off subscribing to a 500mbps plan in the future - if hardware change is not an option (which it is). Seeing others having a similar bottleneck in upload speeds should be a point of discussion no? I wonder if they've found a solution or fix to get rid of said bottleneck.

I do empathise with you, everyone, me included, wants to feel assured we are getting what we paid for. BTW, i'm on 500Mbps plan, and have not had problems with lack of bandwidth. to me, latency (responsiveness) and international speed is more important than local raw speed, but that's my personal view.

to resolve it, you need to look at the entire "chain of communications" to find the weak link or bottleneck. if you look at my list of factors which can cause slow speeds, you can use it as a starting point to identify these points eg:
a. device capability
you didn't mention your router model, but at the speeds it tested, it sounds like a recent model, being able to hit close to the 1Gbps plan speeds.

what wifi-connected device are you using? (apologies if i missed it). if the device can't communicate above a certain speed, then that is the limiting factor.

b. channel width. since you are reaching 200Mbps, i assume you are on 5GHz band. is the channel width set to 20, 40, or 80MHz?

c. wifi channel interference - are you using the same channels that your neighbour is using?
if the channel width is wider than 20MHz, does the wider channel overlap with your neighbours?

d. are there slower/legacy devices on the network?

e. is your speed test run as an app or within the browser?

f. there are other wifi optimisations in the Asus menus, but usually will rarely need to touch these

That said, @xonix has listed some good points in his post (https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/maylyn-networking-asus-zenwifi-xt8.6177953/post-139886602)

Since your wired connection can hit close to the 1Gbps plan (as shown in the router speed test results), then the cause lies between the router and the device. 200Mbps usually does not cause useability problems especially for handheld devices, unless your PCs are connected by wifi only, and they are being used for heavy uploading/downloading.

if you are ok with posting your network setup, devices connected, router settings, others with similar setups will be able to provide more detailed assistance.

cheers
 
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I understand, but it's more a matter of trying to make sure i'm getting what I am paying for. If i'm not achieving anything close to the advertised speeds because of a firmware issue with the hardware, or a hardware issue itself, then I would be better off subscribing to a 500mbps plan in the future - if hardware change is not an option (which it is). Seeing others having a similar bottleneck in upload speeds should be a point of discussion no? I wonder if they've found a solution or fix to get rid of said bottleneck.
https://www.duckware.com/tech/wifi-in-the-us.html
 

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Can the 2.5Gbps LAN port be used as a normal LAN port? Having 3xLAN ports is important as you can attach hubs and other devices to them.

It has two 2.5G ports, one as WAN and one as LAN.

It would be good that they can change this to allow using one of the two the gigabit ports as WAN and then use both 2.5G ports as LAN. Right now 2.5G WAN port is useless for Singapore ISPs.

Ports
RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for WAN x 1, RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for LAN x 1, RJ45 for Gigabits BaseT for LAN x 2
 

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Aiya, just give me the quad-band WiFi 6E router will do
:rolleyes:

Then you have to go for the recently announced Asus GT-AXE16000 (not yet available for sale). Or you have to go for Netgear Orbi RBK963.

Take note 6GHz band is not yet licensed to use for WiFi in Singapore as of now, so you do not see the Zenwifi ET8 and Zenwifi ET12 Pro in Singapore market yet.

And indeed triband Wifi 6E mesh router offers almost no benefits versus triband Wifi 6 mesh router as of now. So Quad-band may be the real upgrade when 6HHz band is approved. But then it is very expensive.

And then maybe Wifi 7 is out then killing Wifi 6E totally in Singapore.
 
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Then you have to go for the recently announced Asus GT-AXE16000 (not yet available for sale). Or you have to go for Netgear Orbi RBK963.

Take note 6GHz band is not yet licensed to use for WiFi in Singapore as of now, so you do not see the Zenwifi ET8 and Zenwifi ET12 Pro in Singapore market yet.

And indeed triband Wifi 6E mesh router offers almost no benefits versus triband Wifi 6 mesh router as of now. So Quad-band may be the real upgrade when 6HHz band is approved. But then it is very expensive.

And then maybe Wifi 7 is out then killing Wifi 6E totally in Singapore.
The ASUS GT-AXE16000 is a ugly *******xxcker

h525


The ASUS ZenWiFi Pro ET12 is WiFi 6E but Tri-band leh..........................sian

:rolleyes:
 

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It has two 2.5G ports, one as WAN and one as LAN.

It would be good that they can change this to allow using one of the two the gigabit ports as WAN and then use both 2.5G ports as LAN. Right now 2.5G WAN port is useless for Singapore ISPs.

Ports
RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for WAN x 1, RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for LAN x 1, RJ45 for Gigabits BaseT for LAN x 2
I know it has 2x2.5G ports, one WAN and one LAN. I just want to know whether can use that 2.5G LAN port as a normal LAN port so that one can have 3xLAN ports?

Router should come with more 1G LAN ports like 4x to 6x for connection to low speed devices and 2x2.5G WAN ports.

Imagine you need to connect hubs, printer, NAS etc. Where got enough LAN ports?

:rolleyes:
 
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I know it has 2x2.5G ports, one WAN and one LAN. I just want to know whether can use that 2.5G LAN port as a normal LAN port so that one can have 3xLAN ports?
Router should come with more 1G LAN ports like 4x to 6x for connection to low speed devices and 2x2.5G WAN ports.
Imagine you need to connect hubs, printer, NAS etc. Where got enough LAN ports?
:rolleyes:

Yes you have one WAN port and three LAN ports in total (one 2.5G LAN port and two 1G ports)

As mentioned in the previous reply.
Ports:
RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for WAN x 1,
RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for LAN x 1,
RJ45 for Gigabits BaseT for LAN x 2
 

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Yes you have one WAN port and three LAN ports in total (one 2.5G LAN port and two 1G ports)

As mentioned in the previous reply.
Ports:
RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for WAN x 1,
RJ45 for 2.5G BaseT for LAN x 1,
RJ45 for Gigabits BaseT for LAN x 2
Even with 3 LAN ports still not enough. Best to have 4x to 6x 1G LAN ports

:D
 
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