Asus GT-AX11000/Pro, RT-AX89X, , GT-AX6000, RT-AX88U Pro, RT-AX86U/Pro, RT-AX86S, TUF-AX6000, RT-AX82U (V1/V2), TUF-AX5400, RT-AX5400 and TUF-AX4200

[Legend2127]

Just using RT-AX86U (better, more consistent) or RT-AX82U with a good Wifi 6 client (2x2 AX 160MHz at 5GHz band) and it is easy to get >800Mbps at close range (eg: 1m to 3m). There are many other AX routers (2x2 AX 160MHz on the 5GHz band or better) can achieve this kind of speed, some of them are below S$200.

Good Wifi 5 router (eg: RT-AC86U) and Wifi 5 clients (2x2 AC 80MHz or better at 5GHz band) can usually get above 600Mbps.

Lower end AC router can probably only give you about 300-400Mbps speed.

What is your router and client used?

I’m using xt8 setup by isp… on the 1gbps plan the highest I even get on wifi at close range on iPhone 14 pro was 400+mbps…

 

[xiaofan]

I’m using xt8 setup by isp… on the 1gbps plan the highest I even get on wifi at close range on iPhone 14 pro was 400+mbps…

XT8 should not be that bad. It should be able to get you above 700Mbps. Something is wrong in your router settings.

Firstly check the QoS settings and disable Adaptive QoS. XT8 has the similar weak CPU as my RT-AX82U and the speed will drop significantly when QoS is enabled.

 

[kashix]

I’m using xt8 setup by isp… on the 1gbps plan the highest I even get on wifi at close range on iPhone 14 pro was 400+mbps…

XT8 I hit before 700+, can be done but wifi settings must tweak a bit

 

[Legend2127]

XT8 should not be that bad. It should be able to get you above 700Mbps. Something is wrong in your router settings.

Firstly check the QoS settings and disable Adaptive QoS. XT8 has the similar weak CPU as my RT-AX82U and the speed will drop significantly when QoS is enabled.

XT8 I hit before 700+, can be done but wifi settings must tweak a bit

icic… anyway I’m switching to GT-AX6000 and looking for a suitable node. I see AX55 as a recommendation.

the purpose of the node is for me to get a good connection from the furthest room from where my main router is placed at which is at the living room.

 

[kashix]

icic… anyway I’m switching to GT-AX6000 and looking for a suitable node. I see AX55 as a recommendation.

the purpose of the node is for me to get a good connection from the furthest room from where my main router is placed at which is at the living room.

Good connection no problem, good speed I doubt it, because AX55 is only AX1800. AX6000 I think now fastest on the market lol

Tempted to get 1 to play too ..

 

[Legend2127]

Good connection no problem, good speed I doubt it, because AX55 is only AX1800. AX6000 I think now fastest on the market lol

Tempted to get 1 to play too ..

I got 12 smart switches scattered at home. Having a stable and good connection will serve its purpose. As for speed, should be good enough for fb vid or China drama right?

gaming is connected via lan from ax6000 so probably can eliminate any wifi interference from the bomb shelter right in the middle of the house.

 

[xiaofan]

icic… anyway I’m switching to GT-AX6000 and looking for a suitable node. I see AX55 as a recommendation.

the purpose of the node is for me to get a good connection from the furthest room from where my main router is placed at which is at the living room.

SInce you are getting the GT-AX6000 and you have already the Zenwifi XT8, why do you still need the RT-AX55?

 

[kashix]

SInce you are getting the GT-AX6000 and you have already the Zenwifi XT8, why do you still need the RT-AX55?

He want have collection, like Pokémon, collect all

 

[Legend2127]

SInce you are getting the GT-AX6000 and you have already the Zenwifi XT8, why do you still need the RT-AX55?

Sold my XT8

 

[xiaofan]

Sold my XT8

Haha, I see. If you can use Ethernet backhaul, indeed there is no real point to get Zenwifi XT8 (only reason is if you like the form factor, but then XD6 will be much cheaper and good enough in that case).

Your GT-AX6000 is a very good router with powerful CPU and strong wireless performance (Dongknows list it as the overall best Wifi 6 router now, previously was RT-AX86U). If you can use Ethernet backhaul, then for the mesh node you can choose RT-AX55/RT-AX58U/RT-AX82U depending on your budget.

 

[Legend2127]

Haha, I see. If you can use Ethernet backhaul, indeed there is no real point to get Zenwifi XT8 (only reason is if you like the form factor, but then XD6 will be much cheaper and good enough in that case).

Your GT-AX6000 is a very good router with powerful CPU and strong wireless performance (Dongknows list it as the overall best Wifi 6 router now, previously was RT-AX86U). If you can use Ethernet backhaul, then for the mesh node you can choose RT-AX55/RT-AX58U/RT-AX82U depending on your budget.

I just pulled lan cable to my rooms as wireless mesh goes heywire from time to time causing connections drops and slowdowns…

Typical HDB with a bomb shelter in the middle, probably have low tolerance for wireless mesh…

 

[xiaofan]

If we compared Wifi 6 router to Wifi 5 router, then you can see there is no fight. Even using high end 4x4 or 3x3 80MHz AC client, it can hardly reach 2x2 AX 160MHz Wifi 6 speed. Take note most of the mobile AC clients are 2x2 AC 80MHz.

But if you have no AX clients, then indeed no point to upgrade to Wifi 6 router if you already have a good Wifi 5 router.

Ref:
https://dongknows.com/best-wi-fi-6-routers/https://dongknows.com/best-wi-fi-5-routers/

 

[Legend2127]

Above is my layout, before adding a mesh node in master room, my wifi connection could barely reached bedroom 3 without frequent speed drops or disconnections.

I determined that my household shelter is killing all wifi signals beyond bedroom 3. Further confirmed when I was using wireless mesh with XT8 where my wifi speeds are cut to 1/2 or experience frequent drops when I place the node in my master bedroom or bedroom 2 before lan points were installed.

With lan points installed, I set up wired backhaul in my master bedroom and got strong wifi coverage from start of the hall way leading to all bedrooms and bathroom with no dead spots.

The question then comes where by I was barely getting wifi speeds above 700mbps on a 1gbps connection from both AX6000 and AX86U. Could it be network interference from the household shelter?

Previously at the master router location with XT8 max wifi speed was only 400mbps…

 

[xonix]

@Legend2127 , wifi speed is also determined by your devices.
Real world wifi speeds of 700 mbps is already very fast.

 

[xiaofan]

The question then comes where by I was barely getting wifi speeds above 700mbps on a 1gbps connection from both AX6000 and AX86U. Could it be network interference from the household shelter?

Previously at the master router location with XT8 max wifi speed was only 400mbps…

Since you are using Ethernet backhaul and I assume you test at close range (1m to 3m), then the household shelter should not matter. 700Mbps+ is quite normal in this case.

Supposedly your Zenwifi XT8 should perform a bit better. But since you were using wireless backhaul, it could be that there were clients connected to the mesh node during your testing.

You mentioned that you were using iPhone 14 Pro. iPhone 14 generation seems to have lower Wifi performance compared to the previous generation, based on my test result (iPhone 14) and Kashix's test result (iPhone 14 Pro Max). 700Mbps+ seems to be correct. iPhones are not the best Wifi 6 client as they only support 2x2 AX 80MHz on the 5GHz band (max speed 1201 Mbps). But iPhone 14 seems to be worse than iPhone 13 as of now. Anyway, 700Mbps+ for a mobile phone is still more than sufficient.

If you have better Wifi 6 client (say laptop/desktop with Intel AX200/201 based adapter, 2x2 AX 160MHz on 5GHz band, theoretical max speed 2402 Mbps), then it should be easy to reach 800Mbps+ or even 900Mbps+.

 

[kashix]

Above is my layout, before adding a mesh node in master room, my wifi connection could barely reached bedroom 3 without frequent speed drops or disconnections.

I determined that my household shelter is killing all wifi signals beyond bedroom 3. Further confirmed when I was using wireless mesh with XT8 where my wifi speeds are cut to 1/2 or experience frequent drops when I place the node in my master bedroom or bedroom 2 before lan points were installed.

With lan points installed, I set up wired backhaul in my master bedroom and got strong wifi coverage from start of the hall way leading to all bedrooms and bathroom with no dead spots.

The question then comes where by I was barely getting wifi speeds above 700mbps on a 1gbps connection from both AX6000 and AX86U. Could it be network interference from the household shelter?

Previously at the master router location with XT8 max wifi speed was only 400mbps…

I hit 800+ on my iPhone 14 Pro Max but like what the rest have said, 700+mbps is plenty fast on mobile device.

 

[xiaofan]

If you have better Wifi 6 client (say laptop/desktop with Intel AX200/201 based adapter, 2x2 AX 160MHz on 5GHz band, theoretical max speed 2402 Mbps), then it should be easy to reach 800Mbps+ or even 900Mbps+.

Just a quick test using my Acer Laptop with Intel AX201 adapter, about 3m away from the Asus RT-AX82U router, Singtel 1Gbps plan, Singtel SpeedTest server, with Singtel TV Box on.

OOkla SpeedTest may be affected by the external server, so sometimes we may want to use iperf3 server connected to the router to test.

Results: Wireless Download 941Mbps, Upload 880 Mbps.

PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf3.11_64bit> .\iperf3 -c 192.168.50.5 -R
Connecting to host 192.168.50.5, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host 192.168.50.5 is sending
[  5] local 192.168.50.175 port 61089 connected to 192.168.50.5 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec   108 MBytes   908 Mbits/sec
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   113 MBytes   945 Mbits/sec
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   111 MBytes   931 Mbits/sec
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   111 MBytes   934 Mbits/sec
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   113 MBytes   949 Mbits/sec
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   112 MBytes   944 Mbits/sec
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   113 MBytes   948 Mbits/sec
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   114 MBytes   952 Mbits/sec
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   113 MBytes   947 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
[  5]   0.00-10.04  sec  1.10 GBytes   939 Mbits/sec    0             sender
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.10 GBytes   941 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.
PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf3.11_64bit> .\iperf3 -c 192.168.50.5
Connecting to host 192.168.50.5, port 5201
[  5] local 192.168.50.175 port 61104 connected to 192.168.50.5 port 5201
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  97.5 MBytes   817 Mbits/sec
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec   104 MBytes   868 Mbits/sec
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec   106 MBytes   886 Mbits/sec
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec   105 MBytes   877 Mbits/sec
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec   109 MBytes   913 Mbits/sec
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec   109 MBytes   912 Mbits/sec
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec   106 MBytes   894 Mbits/sec
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec   105 MBytes   879 Mbits/sec
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec   106 MBytes   888 Mbits/sec
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec   103 MBytes   868 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.02 GBytes   880 Mbits/sec                  sender
[  5]   0.00-10.05  sec  1.02 GBytes   874 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

At the same distance our iPhone 14 can only reach 700Mbps+.

iPhone 14 got a little better result at 1m away.

 

[halocast]

https://rog.asus.com/networking/rog-rapture-gt6-model/
New mesh gaming router

 

[xiaofan]

https://rog.asus.com/networking/rog-rapture-gt6-model/
New mesh gaming router

Looks not yet available in Singapore or even other places.

The processor is a bit strange: 1.7GHz tri-core processor. BCM6756 is supposed to be a quad-core 1.7GHz Arm Cortex A7 processor and a slightly better version than the BCM6755 (quad-core 1.5GHz Arm Cortex A7 processor) used in Zenwifi XT8 (as well as RT-AX56U/RT-AX55). Probably this is a slightly better version of BCM6750 (tri-core 1.5GHz Arm Cortex A7 processor). ALl in all still a low end processor.

News from DongKnows (not a real review yet).
https://dongknows.com/asus-rog-rapture-gt6-mesh-system-review/

 

[kashix]

Seems the new trend is UNII 4, wondering if iPhone can support it. Can’t seems to find any information. If it works, WiFi 6E performance but without the drawback. Can’t wait!