DIY PC Rig Recommendations For 2025

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Hi, my 1TB HDD just died on me after showing signs for a few months, luckily right after I back up some of my most important stuff to my 500GB OS SATA SSD (very squeezy now, which I heard is not a good thing for a SSD drive).

I discovered my current motherboard can actually accommodate a single M2 drive (PCIe 3.0), so I am thinking of getting a 1 or 2TB NVME M2 SSD (preferably PCIe 4 for a bit of future proofing) as OS/gaming drive (the 500GB SATA SSD will then become some kind of storage drive).

My budget is <100sgd for 1TB and ~150sgd for 2TB. So far on amazon.sg, there are Crucial (P3, P3+, P5+, T500), Silicon Power, Sabrent Rocket/+, among others. Any recommendation? Is a heat sink important as my MB does not have a built in heatsink for the M2 socket.

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if u dont mind u can get a cheap 2tb pcie 3.... then u no need to worry about overheating...
then next time when u move on to a new platform then buy 1tb pcie 4/5 os drive
u can save alot of money
 
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Not sure how to check the temps and why it goes high but i just let it be 😅

So far no issues with the strimmer extensions since installation. *touch wood* 🤣

@NightRaven49 : i think if wan to swap out to x3d then shud just go 7800x3d right? Have not considered 7900xtx but will research abit. Thanks all for advice!

but some of u say change psu, some say dun change this part i dunno if my rm750 is enough for the 4080. I thought they require more power? Therefore initially i thought psu is a must change
hwmonitor??????
 

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if u dont mine u can get a cheap 2tb pcie 3.... then u no need to worry about overheating...
then next time when u move on to a new platform then buy 1tb pcie 4/5 os drive
u can save alot of money
Just curious, newer mobo have multiple pcie slot to support multiple pcie ssd?
 

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Just curious, newer mobo have multiple pcie slot to support multiple pcie ssd?
yes if u get 790 type at least 2 slots or more...
if u get 750 maybe u get 2 slots or less
even like mine b550 mb has 2 slots
u have to check out ur mb...
it depends....
 

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Hate it when manufacturers often choose to put the ssd slot next to the pcie slot. It gets in the way of pcie devices. I tried taking out my pcie card kissing the top of my ssd heatsink and the ssd temperature reduces by 2C. Better to buy full atx motherboard to eliminate this problem as you still have other pcie slots to choose from.
 

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Hate it when manufacturers often choose to put the ssd slot next to the pcie slot. It gets in the way of pcie devices. I tried taking out my pcie card kissing the top of my ssd heatsink and the ssd temperature reduces by 2C. Better to buy full atx motherboard to eliminate this problem as you still have other pcie slots to choose from.
ya thats why 2nd drive best to run at pci 3 or with good heats
 

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I don't know about you but most people are focused on controlling the CPU and GPU temps. Not the SSD temperature......
 

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I don't know about you but most people are focused on controlling the CPU and GPU temps. Not the SSD temperature......
Cause CPU and GPU are the most expensive components? SSD temps are just as important. To me, it's not about making sure SSD life is extended as SSD are quite cheap nowadays, it's more about the precious data in it. I always fear losing them whenever my SSD goes bad. Some files and family photos including funerals goes as far back as in 2005.
 

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Top up of $200 is only for the colour and does the larger MB has any significant benefit over the MSI Pro B650M-a Wifi? If not, I think I will stick to your recommended MSI.
there are some enthusiast features like the fully featured 20gbps type c with displayport and power delivery support, along with pcie gen 5 support. whether those will be of benefit to ur daughter is up to her use case, but if just gaming probably not (the aero g is more targeted towards content creators).
Is there any recommendation for a white PSU that is of similar value? if not, I will go with your route since Lancool 216 has the PSU hidden below and I don't think it will be too obvious.
do note the lancool 216 psu shroud is mesh, so the psu is somewhat visible. there are some good psus in white from corsair and seasonic floating around but they are a lot more expensive (>$170).
Can we separately get the psu cable extensions? How to go about buying? Does it come as a set? Cost?
yea the extensions are a separate purchase, so just find them at ur regular pc parts retailers, price depends on what u get. u may not need them if u get a psu that has white cables from the get go though.
I will try to find the Asrock 7800XT steel legend if possible. I see that ASUS TUF Gaming Radeon RX 7800 XT OC Edition 16GB GDDR6 (white) is selling at Dynacore for $885. Worth the additional cost?
885 is very expensive for a 7800xt, u might as well get a 4070 for that price. the asus cooler is very slightly better than the steel legend, but i dont think it is worth that much more.
I notice that SN850x has 2 versions. Is it one with heatsink and one without? So for the recommended MSI MB, which one should I go for?
the one without, the mobo already provisions a nvme heatsink so if u get the nvme with heatsink u will need to take the provided heatsink off to put it in the main nvme slot, defeating the purpose of buying the heatsink variant in the first place.
My earlier build this year used the black Lancool 216. The mesh design is good but it seems to allow more dust going in? I can see a thin layer of dust inside my son's PC now. I was contemplating whether to upgrade the casing to Montech King 95 Pro (it has proper filter all round) but it seems that the white casing is out of stock. If there is white, do you think it is a worthwhile upgrade?
thermally the king 95 pro may not be as good since it does not appear to allow as much airflow, but it does offer a panoramic aesthetic vs a more conventional pc design. so depends on what u prioritise, i dont think they are very comparable anyway.
I realized that PS120SE does not come in white. So will Peerless Assassin 120 SE WHITE ARGB is ok as replacement? I suppose this can clear the RAM. Or I go back to ID-cooling SE-226-XT ARGB (White)?
as mentioned previously, any of these tower coolers will do fine on a 7500f. i would get the cheapest one in white.
@NightRaven49 : i think if wan to swap out to x3d then shud just go 7800x3d right?
if u want make the jump to 7800x3d, that will be very costly as u not only have to get a cpu, u also have to replace the mobo and ram, and u might as well build a whole new pc at that point. but as mentioned before, u can run ur 5800x with ur new gpu first, then consider upgrade if the gpu is being held back (not reaching 100% utilisation). i feel 5800x3d is a good enough upgrade if u need to since ur already on am4, alongside being cost effective both in terms of money and effort.
but some of u say change psu, some say dun change this part i dunno if my rm750 is enough for the 4080. I thought they require more power? Therefore initially i thought psu is a must change
nvidia recommends 750w for the 4080. these recommendations usually have a lot of headroom to account for spikes, but if u go find reviews u will notice that full system draw is typically only around 450-500w in gaming, so u dont always need to follow their recommendations 100%. personally have run gpus with underpowered psus without issue (eg 5700xt on 450w).
Just curious, newer mobo have multiple pcie slot to support multiple pcie ssd?
most except the most budget models have multiple slots. do check the product page to double confirm, some mobos may run different speeds on different slots or even disable nvme slots based on what other sata or pcie devices u plug into the board too.
 

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what is the highest capacity PSU for SFX-L available locally? i know theres corsair sf750 but i am looking for higher wattage for future proofing
 

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what is the highest capacity PSU for SFX-L available locally? i know theres corsair sf750 but i am looking for higher wattage for future proofing
u running 2 cards? if not any single card 750w is more then enff..
 

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thanks but, a top tier nvme doesn't necessary contribute to fast boot time in am5.
the mainstream cause for slow boot time in am5 was memory training which apparently I (most ppl) heard

until i really search it up, this was one of the more insightful piece.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...bility-slow-boots-memory-training-etc.315236/

AM5 now take ard 20s to post.

So boot times is ard 25s to windows screen.

It's the first memory training that will take awhile.
 

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what is the highest capacity PSU for SFX-L available locally? i know theres corsair sf750 but i am looking for higher wattage for future proofing

SF750, my setup, the fan doesnt even turn on (7600/7800xt) during gaming

SFXL means less space for cable management.

It's a common SFXL complaint no matter what case you are using.
 

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AM5 now take ard 20s to post.
most am5 boards with the latest bios dont take that long to post nowadays, usually about half that.
what is the highest capacity PSU for SFX-L available locally?
cooler master offers a v sfx 1100w. 1000w is also available in units from asus (rog loki), corsair (sf1000l) and silverstone (sx1000).
even if its 7600 x3d + a 4080?
750w is enough, refer to my previous post on this thread. 7600x3d doesnt exist (not yet anyway), but the 7800x3d is very power efficient so u only have to worry about gpu. i would say 650w-750w is the sweet spot nowadays, anything more is quite overkill (4090 generally doesnt consume anywhere near the recommended 850w).
 

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most am5 boards with the latest bios dont take that long to post nowadays, usually about half that.

cooler master offers a v sfx 1100w. 1000w is also available in units from asus (rog loki), corsair (sf1000l) and silverstone (sx1000).

750w is enough, refer to my previous post on this thread. 7600x3d doesnt exist (not yet anyway), but the 7800x3d is very power efficient so u only have to worry about gpu. i would say 650w-750w is the sweet spot nowadays, anything more is quite overkill (4090 generally doesnt consume anywhere near the recommended 850w).

10s to post is if you are lucky. My Asrock takes exactly 20s to post with XMP profile
 

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Hi Experts, Kindly let me know which is the best specs for 1080P gaming and value for money.

i have found 2 specs from Invaderpc and Aftershock.

not sure which one to go.

SGD 860

IM40605600-M03-WL03

Invader Master GeForce RTX™ 4060 | Ryzen 5 5600

📷  AMD RYZEN 5 5600 6CORE/12THREAD

📷  ASUS PRIME B550M-A WIFI II AX ARGB

📷  AMD WRAITH COOLER

📷  KINGSTON FURY BEAST RGB 3600MHz 16GB(8GBx2) CL17

📷  GALAX GeForce RTX™ 4060 1-CLICK OC 2X 8GB GDDR6

📷  CRUCIAL P3 PLUS 1TB SSD

📷  SILVERSTONE ET650-650W V1.4 80+ BRONZE

📷  NEOTEZ DEUS CASING

📷  4 X 120MM ARGB FANS

HIGH SPEED AX WIRELESS AND BT | WIFI 6 + BT 5.2

WINDOWS 11 HOME UN-ACTIVATED

Warranty:

- 1st Year Onsite

- 3 Years Parts and Labor

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SGD 869

Aftershock Level 2 AMD

R5 5600 + RTX 4060

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Processor

AMD Wraith Prism RGB Cooler

ASROCK B550M WIFI SE

Zotac RTX 4060 Solo 8GB

16GB ADATA Spectrix D35G DDR4 3600MHz (8x2)

1TB Lexar NQ710 Gen4 SSD

550W Deepcool 80+ PSU

Wireless + Bluetooth Included

AFTERSHOCK RAPID 2023

Windows 11 Home 64 Bit *Unactivated*
 
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