[POLL] Why so many old bird NSmen say M16 very good? Moi think SAR21 way better leh! :(

[crimsontactics]

I've only used Sar21 twice. The scope is nice though. Very easy to shoot. I think no need to zero? I dunno forgot.

But I still prefer M16. More rugged and reliable.

And yes, using the iron sight is much more satisfying and fast.

Every gun need to zero de Bro jadedRomeo!

 

[crimsontactics]

Typical old bird noise. They will say abuse nsf also better

That's very true Bro chaiscool!

 

[XCalintz]

M16 iron sight confirms not as easy as the SAR21 scope. Day shooting is still okay. Night shooting is a lot more difficult with only a small highlight guide.

 

[DragonFire]

So moi enlisted on 2011...

During BMT and medic school, we use SAR21 to train...

Very good gun, short short so easy to move around, then got scope so very easy to shoot...

Some more charging handle by the side so easy to pull...

Then moi got posted to Air Force and we are forced to use M16 because we are considered rear units...

The M16 so long move around so mafan...

Then the iron sight so jialat so hard to shoot...

Charging handle also at the back which make it hard to pull...

But why so many old bird said M16 better? Is it nostalgia?

It makes a good walking stick. Also, it is better balanced without a loaded mag inserted. SAR21 is very front heavy.

In the kind of action SG troops are likely to see tho, I think the SAR21 is the better conscript rifle.

Anybody can pick one up and plink off man sized targets at 100m with little training. That’s really important.

AR15 platform requires quite a bit more skill to use well, and the old rifles SAF has are a bit worn. We used to stuff twisted tissue between upper an lower receiver to stop the wiggles at range time.

 

[DragonFire]

Got.. my unit had. Now I don't know anymore.

I think the carbine is still used by armor.

 

[XCalintz]

M16 run soc last time very pain. Back will have abrasion

Try running SOC with sar21. The extra weight is torturous. Can feel straight away from the 700m starting rundown.

 

[Bardiel]

Chiu also air force Bro Bardiel?

no. was in some service battalion

cos my era was the camou to pixlised era

so bmt sar train. go unit m16 train again =/

 

[Mark8888]

I used M6 during NS. My son told me SAR21 is not for left handed folks because the dust cover is on the right side of the butt.. Both of us are left handed and our master eye is on the left.

 

[randyap]

Would be curious to see SAF statistics for marksman before and after conversion to SAR21

 

[randyap]

Use M16 easier to rifle-butt the enemy during close combat.

 

[st0rm5cap3]

I used both before. Bobo shooter with M16 but marksman with SAR21. So there u have it. Sighting better, smaller so can hug tighter to steady each recoil.

 

[crimsontactics]

M16 iron sight confirms not as easy as the SAR21 scope. Day shooting is still okay. Night shooting is a lot more difficult with only a small highlight guide.

Yeah sia Bro XCalintz!

 

[parmesparmes]

I trained with M16 during BMT and OCS. Used carbine when posted to Armour. Reservist transition to SAR. Different unit/vocation will have different requirements and needs, so preferences will definitely vary. Priority is to take down your opponent before your opponent takes you down. Based on my last appointment before I MR, I believe the SAR will enable me to do my job best.

 

[crimsontactics]

It makes a good walking stick. Also, it is better balanced without a loaded mag inserted. SAR21 is very front heavy.

In the kind of action SG troops are likely to see tho, I think the SAR21 is the better conscript rifle.

Anybody can pick one up and plink off man sized targets at 100m with little training. That’s really important.

AR15 platform requires quite a bit more skill to use well, and the old rifles SAF has are a bit worn. We used to stuff twisted tissue between upper an lower receiver to stop the wiggles at range time.

Moi thought SAR21 ish back heavy Bro DragonFire?

 

[crimsontactics]

no. was in some service battalion

cos my era was the camou to pixlised era

so bmt sar train. go unit m16 train again =/

I see Bro Bardiel...

 

[crimsontactics]

I used M6 during NS. My son told me SAR21 is not for left handed folks because the dust cover is on the right side of the butt.. Both of us are left handed and our master eye is on the left.

Whats M6 Bro Mark8888?

 

[DragonFire]

Moi thought SAR21 ish back heavy Bro DragonFire?

LOL you might be right. The dementia is setting in.

 

[crimsontactics]

Would be curious to see SAF statistics for marksman before and after conversion to SAR21

Tiagong ish higher Bro randyap...

 

[crimsontactics]

Use M16 easier to rifle-butt the enemy during close combat.

That ish very true Bro randyap...

 

[crimsontactics]

I used both before. Bobo shooter with M16 but marksman with SAR21. So there u have it. Sighting better, smaller so can hug tighter to steady each recoil.

That ish correct Bro st0rm5cap3...