Mercs GLB180 vs GLB200

[dr34mc4st3r]

GLB200 smoother acceleration and pick up.
GLB180 sluggish, the pick up from 0kmh is quite a drag.

For a more comfortable driving exp, i'd say go for GLB200.

I've driven the older GLB180 and currently GLB200.

Facelift GLB uses the electric motor to help in initial pick up so should be better than first gen

 

[dr34mc4st3r]

think 7 seater SUV market <300k only kodiaq, santa fe, sorento, glb, cx8, xtrail

saw sorento, santa fe, glb, kodiaq and got kodiaq cause dont feel like paying premium for hybrid cause my usage not that high. glb felt a bit bare and the boot is non existant with 7 seats up.

Went for the same. Best bang for the buck is Kodiaq. Santa Fe and Sorento is another 60-70k more. Unable to stomach the extra cost. Didn't like the GLB with the hacked solution for second row aircon .. glaring omission. But admit the interior is more luxurious than Kodiaq

 

[orpisia]

Wa TS is 20k per month earner ah

 

[deathscthe]

Good thread to share info. I'm currently driving a 6 seater CX-8 that's 4+ years old and looking to change to another 6 or 7 seater SUV but there's really not many options in the market. I have viewed and shortlisted a few SUVs (including some 5 seater SUV) and will like to hear any thoughts on them.

This car is to fetch my family of 4 (2 adults and 2 primary school children) daily and I will bring my parents out for dinner on every weekend. Hence, ideally 6 seater is the best but I can consider 7 seater (don't really like bench seats on 2nd row) and 5 seater SUV (squeeze a bit). My budget is $300k+ and I can stretch to low $400k. I drive to Malaysia often (long trips to Penang, Ipoh, Kuantan etc, and at high speeds) and I like some spirited drive from time to time. My 2.5NA CX-8 while is a great drive, power is lacking. It's very stable at high speeds (180-200km/hr) but yeah, acceleration can be better.

Requirements:
1. Spacious.
2. Comfortable seat and passenger comfort.
3. Somewhat fun and engaging drive. Yes, I know fun drive and SUV don't really go hand in hand but I'll take whatever there is.
4. Stable at high speeds (above 150km/hr).
5. Reliable - less visits to workshops other than normal servicings and I don't want to keep replacing spoilt parts within first 5 years.
6. Priced between $300k+ to low $400k.
7. No MPVs!

1. CX-80 - This was originally my choice car as I wanted to get the 3.3 litres turbo petrol in-line 6, 6 or 7 seater. TEK decided to only bring in 2.5 PHEV and I don't like PHEV. Everything else about the car was great, comfort was the 2nd only to Lexus RX. Specs were top of the line and inclusive of everything which even GLC 300 Coupe and RX didn't have. CX-80 has a lot of soft-touch material and the infotainment is very user-friendly. Mazda has really improved a lot and built quality is really good now.

2. Skoda Kodiaq RS - Not launched yet but I want to test drive it. I previously shortlisted Kodiaq when I got my CX-8 but did not go with Kodiaq because I needed a bigger car and more space in the 3rd row. I'm not very familiar with Skoda so I'm not sure about reliability of Kodiaq.

3. Mercedes Benz GLB - Back in 2020 when GLB was first launched, I withdrew my cheque that I used to express interest because the 3rd row was cramp and there was no aircon vents in 2nd row back then. Everything was very plastic and I did not like the 1.33 litre turbo engine. However, I liked the interior (1st row only) and the MBUX. But hey, GLB200 at $170k was a great opportunity to own a Mercedes, and being a 7 seater made it even better.

4. Santa Fe - The current generation looks futuristic and has pretty good specs. However, there's a lot of hard plastics and the seats aren't exactly comfortable.

5. Lexus RX - This 5 seater came up as a close contender as I used to drive a RX270 several years ago and it was very very comfortable. The current Lexus RX is the most comfortable SUV among all the SUVs in my post here. It is adequately spec-ed but I'm not too keen on the hybrid engine and the e-CVT gearbox. I like Lexus for its comfort, reliability, design and attention to details. The infotainment is bad, worst among all SUVs here, and it doesn't even come with premium audio (Mark Levinson) anymore.

6. Mercedes Benz GLC 300 Coupe - This is more of a selfish choice . I really like the design of the car and the interior wows me. This is also the most powerful among all the SUVs here (0-100 in 6.2 secs). But the seat is hard and not comfortable. Interior space is the smallest and can't really fit 3 adults in 2nd row. Specs wise, it's the poorest spec-ed as it doesn't even have HUD and sunroof at $400k+. Quoting Business Times, if I wish to have a last flirt with petrol, the GLC 300 Coupe is a great choice.

7. Not considering BMW and Audi due to other reasons.

kia carnival, hyundai palisade can take a look if dont mind kimchi and want very comfortable space

 

[deathscthe]

Went for the same. Best bang for the buck is Kodiaq. Santa Fe and Sorento is another 60-70k more. Unable to stomach the extra cost. Didn't like the GLB with the hacked solution for second row aircon .. glaring omission. But admit the interior is more luxurious than Kodiaq

driving SL trim so dont feed like interior lacking la

 

[mistersatki_]

EV are for saving petrol money.
did you consider that GLB200 may use more petrol due to the higher engine displacement?

You could save $100-$200 a month on petrol expense if you go for an EV SUV.

Road tax eat up your savings liao

 

[mistersatki_]

kia carnival, hyundai palisade can take a look if dont mind kimchi and want very comfortable space

Sibei chor these 2 models
Can get higher up the range in merc liao

 

[Tyrian]

Don’t think so I know many Volvo owners engine reliable. Merc more prone to breakdown.

That I don’t know. I don’t own a Volvo. Is based on what the counter girl say.

 

[deathscthe]

Sibei chor these 2 models
Can get higher up the range in merc liao

yes but different cabin size and are 7 seaters. if dont need 7 seat then just GLC it

 

[eversomighty]

I think it's quite gimmicky unless I can start my car remotely? So that it's not so hot when I sit.

Otherwise mbux with apple carplay android auto is good enough for me in terms of tech.

now someone mention about mercedes me app.. then I recall. it doesn't work on PI version as the dealer in UK has somehow register it before sending the car over to SG and cant unregister how god knows why. It was an unsolved mystery that almost no one has an absolute answer or solution.

 

[eversomighty]

Pls don't reply anymore because your reply is irrelevant to my thread.

You can start on your thread about different tiers of luxury cars and rest assured I will not comment there.

I don't know what "personal insecurity" you are talking about when I'm just asking about a family car. It is insecure people like yourself who cannot stand people buying entry level mercedes because you think you know better.

I can honestly tell you that you don't, and all your "golden nuggets of information" are rubbish to me.

Now get out of here and don't come back

cant stand that kuku, seriously..

 

[sinistral]

Good thread to share info. I'm currently driving a 6 seater CX-8 that's 4+ years old and looking to change to another 6 or 7 seater SUV but there's really not many options in the market. I have viewed and shortlisted a few SUVs (including some 5 seater SUV) and will like to hear any thoughts on them.

This car is to fetch my family of 4 (2 adults and 2 primary school children) daily and I will bring my parents out for dinner on every weekend. Hence, ideally 6 seater is the best but I can consider 7 seater (don't really like bench seats on 2nd row) and 5 seater SUV (squeeze a bit). My budget is $300k+ and I can stretch to low $400k. I drive to Malaysia often (long trips to Penang, Ipoh, Kuantan etc, and at high speeds) and I like some spirited drive from time to time. My 2.5NA CX-8 while is a great drive, power is lacking. It's very stable at high speeds (180-200km/hr) but yeah, acceleration can be better.

Requirements:
1. Spacious.
2. Comfortable seat and passenger comfort.
3. Somewhat fun and engaging drive. Yes, I know fun drive and SUV don't really go hand in hand but I'll take whatever there is.
4. Stable at high speeds (above 150km/hr).
5. Reliable - less visits to workshops other than normal servicings and I don't want to keep replacing spoilt parts within first 5 years.
6. Priced between $300k+ to low $400k.
7. No MPVs!

1. CX-80 - This was originally my choice car as I wanted to get the 3.3 litres turbo petrol in-line 6, 6 or 7 seater. TEK decided to only bring in 2.5 PHEV and I don't like PHEV. Everything else about the car was great, comfort was the 2nd only to Lexus RX. Specs were top of the line and inclusive of everything which even GLC 300 Coupe and RX didn't have. CX-80 has a lot of soft-touch material and the infotainment is very user-friendly. Mazda has really improved a lot and built quality is really good now.

2. Skoda Kodiaq RS - Not launched yet but I want to test drive it. I previously shortlisted Kodiaq when I got my CX-8 but did not go with Kodiaq because I needed a bigger car and more space in the 3rd row. I'm not very familiar with Skoda so I'm not sure about reliability of Kodiaq.

3. Mercedes Benz GLB - Back in 2020 when GLB was first launched, I withdrew my cheque that I used to express interest because the 3rd row was cramp and there was no aircon vents in 2nd row back then. Everything was very plastic and I did not like the 1.33 litre turbo engine. However, I liked the interior (1st row only) and the MBUX. But hey, GLB200 at $170k was a great opportunity to own a Mercedes, and being a 7 seater made it even better.

4. Santa Fe - The current generation looks futuristic and has pretty good specs. However, there's a lot of hard plastics and the seats aren't exactly comfortable.

5. Lexus RX - This 5 seater came up as a close contender as I used to drive a RX270 several years ago and it was very very comfortable. The current Lexus RX is the most comfortable SUV among all the SUVs in my post here. It is adequately spec-ed but I'm not too keen on the hybrid engine and the e-CVT gearbox. I like Lexus for its comfort, reliability, design and attention to details. The infotainment is bad, worst among all SUVs here, and it doesn't even come with premium audio (Mark Levinson) anymore.

6. Mercedes Benz GLC 300 Coupe - This is more of a selfish choice . I really like the design of the car and the interior wows me. This is also the most powerful among all the SUVs here (0-100 in 6.2 secs). But the seat is hard and not comfortable. Interior space is the smallest and can't really fit 3 adults in 2nd row. Specs wise, it's the poorest spec-ed as it doesn't even have HUD and sunroof at $400k+. Quoting Business Times, if I wish to have a last flirt with petrol, the GLC 300 Coupe is a great choice.

7. Not considering BMW and Audi due to other reasons.

I will throw you a curveball: Maserati Grecale. It should meet all your requirements (just don't expect it to be as reliable as its Japanese rivals) except number of seats (it is a 5-seater SUV).

 

[charleslin]

Sibei chor these 2 models
Can get higher up the range in merc liao

Oh Palisade is pricey in Singapore?

In Jakarta it's cheaper than GLB, so it's a very popular choice, spacious and good interior, engine is also "ok enough" but it's the diesel version here.

 

[SquallLH]

EV are for saving petrol money.
did you consider that GLB200 may use more petrol due to the higher engine displacement?

You could save $100-$200 a month on petrol expense if you go for an EV SUV.

GLB180 and GLB200 are essentially the same vehicle with same engine (so same engine displacement) except GLB180 has been downtuned to meet Cat A COE requirement.
Savings will be more than $200 going with an EV assuming TS drives on a daily basis else why go for EV in first place with the heavy road tax.

Not sure what TS is looking at or just "flaunting" here since if TS is only looking at a 7 seaters then most of the suggestions here including the GLC are out of the picture. Not sure why people are harping on the driving experience also when you're essentially driving a van/mini bus/people carrier for a 7 seater also
If looking for badge then GLB is an easy choice although as many has said, GLB180/200 not RWD, renault engine and body chassis based on the A/B/GLA/GLB peasant class chassis, hard plastics all around does not give the MB feel but then again sinkies look at badge only and MB resale value (selling at 8/9 year old) also generally ok compared to BMW and Audi so...

Lastly, not sure why no one addressed it but main diff between C&C and PI is basically any major issues with regards to software bugs or recalls ****, C&C cars normally get them for "free" while PI car owners will potentially have to pay C&C an "adoption" ($10k-15k) fee to fix the issue if the PI workshops are unable to handle the fix. That's why C&C cars generally have better resale values than PI

 

[mistersatki_]

Oh Palisade is pricey in Singapore?

In Jakarta it's cheaper than GLB, so it's a very popular choice, spacious and good interior, engine is also "ok enough" but it's the diesel version here.

from memory , palisade around 300+ , glb 240 250
Not sure if changed pricing

 

[TUV2008]

GLB180 and GLB200 are essentially the same vehicle with same engine (so same engine displacement) except GLB180 has been downtuned to meet Cat A COE requirement.
Savings will be more than $200 going with an EV assuming TS drives on a daily basis else why go for EV in first place with the heavy road tax.

Not sure what TS is looking at or just "flaunting" here since if TS is only looking at a 7 seaters then most of the suggestions here including the GLC are out of the picture. Not sure why people are harping on the driving experience also when you're essentially driving a van/mini bus/people carrier for a 7 seater also
If looking for badge then GLB is an easy choice although as many has said, GLB180/200 not RWD, renault engine and body chassis based on the A/B/GLA/GLB peasant class chassis, hard plastics all around does not give the MB feel but then again sinkies look at badge only and MB resale value (selling at 8/9 year old) also generally ok compared to BMW and Audi so...

Lastly, not sure why no one addressed it but main diff between C&C and PI is basically any major issues with regards to software bugs or recalls ****, C&C cars normally get them for "free" while PI car owners will potentially have to pay C&C an "adoption" ($10k-15k) fee to fix the issue if the PI workshops are unable to handle the fix. That's why C&C cars generally have better resale values than PI

I did mention the recall problem in my post #308

 

[SquallLH]

I did mention the recall problem in my post #308

Ah you did but C&C would gladly help you with a "fee" so not exactly zjgzj, still can beg C&C

 

[googoogaga]

That is the average of transacted prices - sometimes lower sometimes higher. That is why the OMV is an average if you noticed. The figures for Tesla will be accurate since it sells online and without COE. And indeed my friend got their Tesla model Y at 203k in December. Good enough as a reference for the final transacted price. But if you look at the AD advertised price only then you will be missing out many cars which you believe are out of your budget.

"2 Average Open Market Value (OMV) of new cars registered in the month. The OMV for cars sold by parallel importers may differ from local authorised distributors."

Again, what you linked is not the actual transacted price. If this is indeed actual transacted price, it means OP can get the GLB180 for 180k. No need for OP to go for 2nd hand market anymore. I will also join OP and get a GLB180 for 180K if this is possible . Another wonderful offer is polestar 2 for 140k. Please lah.. which country you live in ? Polestar 2 for 140k?

 

[TUV2008]

Ah you did but C&C would gladly help you with a "fee" so not exactly zjgzj, still can beg C&C

Not only my dealer reminds me of this and ask me to buy from AD, I also have one friend kena the recall and it was a nightmare from his experience.

 

[esandwich]

I love my lexus. Super reliable and have not given me much issues yet (touch wood). I just service it twice a year, just the usual stuff. My only gripe is the poor user experience of infotainment system, but you will get used to it.

LM is like luxury alphard and super expensive (like 700k ex).
We don't think we have LX here, only RX.

Tbh there is still brand pressure from family (ie. Wife). Given our family status (we are all have decent positions at work) and housing (landed), we will not consider cars outside of M,B,A,L. In fact wife was telling me to look at porsche but I told her it is not rational for now given the price and reliability. Macan too small, cayenne too expensive, panamera is nice but 4 seater.

Another option is to go EV (tesla model Y, byd sealion 7 or M6), since we can charge at home. But I still prefer my ice car and will want to drive maybe 1 last ICE before transiting to EV.

Wah this is quite sad…buy a car also need to see face value.