S’pore to explore nuclear power as future energy source: PM Wong

lalalalalala

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aiyah he said explore, but i doubt he will last long enough to see it through la
Explore probably means already have prototype liao. Usually the announcement is when 70% there already. Remember ntuc insurance sell to aia? Almost sign liao then they announce
 

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every 1km got so many traffic lights

sheltered walkway also need lights.

then crazy people turned on 16 deg 24/7 at their house causing serious condensation to neighbours..

all think for themselves..
Humans at their best, so long at they export their problems to other people beyond their direct sight they won't care.
 

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Nothing comes without a cost, pretty sure other countries will be charging a premium price in Sinkipoo for letting us use their nuclear waste disposal facilities too.

Where does SG plan to dispose of the thousands of worn out EV batteries in the future? Maybe throw into the nuclear reactor?
 

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Nothing comes without a cost, pretty sure other countries will be charging a premium price in Sinkipoo for letting us use their nuclear waste disposal facilities too.
Nah, the other countries will just send more foreign workers to take our SGD dollars :D
 

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any skillsfuture course on nuclear energy?

i'm a huge supporter of green energy intiatives
 

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knn SG too small for nuclear la. Dont c other do ownself also follow. Nuclear is a damn sexpensive way to just boil water leh.
 

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Built nuclear plant to bootlick Europe's green initiatives;
buy oil from US to help their economy.
This way hedging against risks good ma.
With these energy can fully automate Singapore.
If prices are low maybe can on aircon whole day.
 

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they probably building at some offshore island

but i feel is unnecessary

we are a small country, we r not russia, why need nuclear plant?

Consider that Indonesia can cut off her LNG supply to us anytime and to meet the future demands of EV vehicles, data centres, AI etc. We also cannot be choked by those western oil giants mah if they threaten to move out or close down

Nuclear energy is not affected by the sun, wind, rain and tide
 

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Seeing oil leaks by our own orgs, I don't really have much confidence in them properly dealing with the waste. Even as a nuclear energy proponent myself.

Even if they go with a fool-proof design like Molten Salt Reactor ("waste" gets recycled and consumed as fuel), somehow will still have daiji one... Look at our established MRT system as an example.

Will they tell us that they don't want to "over-maintain" the reactor(s) when something inevitably goes wrong under their administration?
Good point about MSR which is most probably what government is eyeing on since it's promoted by Terra Power founded by Bill Gates.

Further Reading:
https://thebulletin.org/2022/06/mol...e-in-the-1960s-and-they-remain-trouble-today/

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The Downsides of MSR:

Molten salt reactors are a bad idea.
The Molten Salt Reactor Experiment’s history is riddled with extensive problems, both during its operational lifetime and the half century thereafter. These problems were not accidental but a result of the many material challenges faced by the reactor itself.

Any other molten salt reactor will encounter these problems too. France’s Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire, the Nuclear Innovation and Research Office in the United Kingdom, and other research laboratories have all drawn this conclusion. According to the Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire, “numerous technological challenges remain to be overcome before the construction of an MSR can be considered.”

Should molten salt reactors ever be constructed, they are unlikely to operate reliably. And if they are deployed, they would likely result in various safety and security risks. And they would produce several different waste streams, all of which would require extensive processing and would face disposal related challenges. Investing in molten salt reactors is not worth the cost or the effort.
 

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since indonesia is building one very near to us, higher chances we are gonna die anyway due to them rather than our own nuclear plant, so i don't see why not.
 

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Good point about MSR which is most probably what government is eyeing on since it's promoted by Terra Power founded by Bill Gates.

Further Reading:
https://thebulletin.org/2022/06/mol...e-in-the-1960s-and-they-remain-trouble-today/

mcfr-terrapower_515_405_86.jpg.optimal.jpg


The Downsides of MSR:

Molten salt reactors are a bad idea.
The Molten Salt Reactor Experiment’s history is riddled with extensive problems, both during its operational lifetime and the half century thereafter. These problems were not accidental but a result of the many material challenges faced by the reactor itself.

Any other molten salt reactor will encounter these problems too. France’s Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire, the Nuclear Innovation and Research Office in the United Kingdom, and other research laboratories have all drawn this conclusion. According to the Institut de Radioprotection et de Sûreté Nucléaire, “numerous technological challenges remain to be overcome before the construction of an MSR can be considered.”

Should molten salt reactors ever be constructed, they are unlikely to operate reliably. And if they are deployed, they would likely result in various safety and security risks. And they would produce several different waste streams, all of which would require extensive processing and would face disposal related challenges. Investing in molten salt reactors is not worth the cost or the effort.
Oof by Bill Gates, history have shown anything touched by him fails eventually. Literally a deal with the devil himself.
 

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since indonesia is building one very near to us, higher chances we are gonna die anyway due to them rather than our own nuclear plant, so i don't see why not.
It's why I advocate for antinatalism, why bring more into this world when everyone will die an inevitable death one day? Humans are still way far behind in terms of ethical development.
 

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So the logic is because they can be wrong about asbestos, they can't be trusted about nuclear? But if that's true then they can't be trusted about anything. How do you know that any new invention is safe?

The nuclear waste argument is also a red herring. Do some research on how much nuclear waste ks actually produced. Most people are surprised to learn that we aren't talking about tonnes of waste but more like grams per year for a small reactor.

Sure..we could wait for fusion first. But who is to say that fusion is safer.. after all they were wrong about asbestos.
Sure you can trust Covid vaccines too..they are 100% safe right as per claims by government...but not everyone agrees with that.
 

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Ok la. Do study first.

If our neighbours one day decide to build nuclear plants in this region, then we are ready to build also.

Coz if they start building, whether we build or not, the risk to us is the same.
 

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I think the best place to build a nuke plant is on P Semaku. P Semaku is a landfill island and is still ongoing. A certain percentage of the land already completed landfilling.

Build the nuke plant underground. Move all the cement plants there. with pipings installed to ready pump the concrete into the plant to fill it up ln the case of any eventuality.

Set up an army barrack and have anti-missiles and anti-aircraft battery units too. On the main land facing P Semaku setup additional anti-missiles and anti-aircraft battery units for additional support. Our subs, fighter jets and navy can patrol the air and seas 24x7 leh
 
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indiana jones can survive in a fridge in the movie the kingdom of the crystal skulls. so iron can protect us
 
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