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Thank you very much. I guess I'll go with the attempt to bridge.

As I plan to subscribe to the 5gbps, is there an ONU that supports 5gbps? From what I read in other threads and on Taobao, I can only find a 2.5GbE model.

Additionally, in your experience, do you know if the ONR has a DMZ setting?

No point to consider using a 3rd party XGS-PON ONU (10Gbps capable) to replace Singtel XGS-PON ONR. It is an advanced topic without any successful story as of now.

Just try to bridge the Singtel XGS-PON ONR.

And yes there is DMZ setting for the Singtel issued ONR. But often DMZ does not help you much if you encounter issues with ONR.

You can always start with Double NAT to see if you encounter issues or not. Most of the users will be just fine with Double NAT. Then try DMZ. Then try bridging.
 

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No point to consider using a 3rd party XGS-PON ONU (10Gbps capable) to replace Singtel XGS-PON ONR. It is an advanced topic without any successful story as of now.

Just try to bridge the Singtel XGS-PON ONR.

And yes there is DMZ setting for the Singtel issued ONR. But often DMZ does not help you much if you encounter issues with ONR.

You can always start with Double NAT to see if you encounter issues or not. Most of the users will be just fine with Double NAT. Then try DMZ. Then try bridging.
Not trying to flatter you or what, but at this rate I'm going to get a home broadband networking IT certificate just by understanding your logic on this subject matter. 🤝
 

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Hello peeps.

Can you do a ping to 135.125.188.130 and tell me the result and what's your ISP/plan?

Thanks!
 

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Hello peeps.

Can you do a ping to 135.125.188.130 and tell me the result and what's your ISP/plan?

Thanks!

The following website says it belongs to OVH SAS (ASN: AS16276 OVH SAS), OVH Cloud in France.
https://www.ip-tracker.org/lookup.php?ip=135.125.188.130

I am using SingTel 5Gbps Fibre Internet plan.

Bash:
root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 4 135.125.188.130
PING 135.125.188.130 (135.125.188.130): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=0 ttl=42 time=183.755 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=1 ttl=42 time=200.081 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=2 ttl=42 time=182.698 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=3 ttl=42 time=183.577 ms

--- 135.125.188.130 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 182.698/187.527/200.081 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# mtr 135.125.188.130

                                My traceroute  [v0.95]
OpenWrt (115.66.xxx.xxx) -> 135.125.188.130 (135.125.188.130)         2025-03-17T20:58:19+0800
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                               Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. bb115-66-xxx-254.singnet.com.sg                  0.0%   116    2.5   1.5   1.0   2.9   0.3
 2. 165.21.193.22                                    0.0%   116    3.5   5.9   2.2  28.0   5.9
 3. 165.21.193.21                                    0.0%   116    2.4   3.1   1.5  22.5   3.2
 4. 165.21.138.245                                  31.3%   116    2.2   3.9   1.8  60.8   7.2
 5. SN-SINQT1-BO403-ae1.singnet.com.sg               0.0%   116    1.8   2.0   1.6   2.4   0.2
 6. 203.208.177.213                                  0.0%   116    2.4   2.9   1.7  28.7   2.9
 7. xn-lhrcl1-bo706.ix.singtel.com                   0.0%   116    2.8   3.6   2.3  25.9   3.1
 8. 203.208.158.162                                  0.0%   116    3.5   4.0   2.9  31.2   3.6
 9. 203.208.158.62                                   1.7%   116  177.9 173.3 169.7 185.6   4.2
10. 203.208.178.222                                  0.0%   116  170.9 171.5 170.3 197.0   3.1
11. ldn-b3-link.ip.twelve99.net                      0.0%   116  171.0 170.7 170.1 173.6   0.5
12. (waiting for reply)
13. (waiting for reply)
14. (waiting for reply)
15. lon1-eri1-vac1-a75-1-firewall.uk.eu              0.0%   115  178.1 180.7 177.6 208.6   4.9
16. lon1-eri1-vac1-a75-2-shield.uk.eu                0.0%   115  178.3 180.7 177.6 213.0   5.1
17. lon1-eri1-vac1-a75-3.uk.eu                       0.0%   115  189.6 190.9 189.0 203.0   2.3
18. (waiting for reply)
19. (waiting for reply)
20. lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu                          0.0%   115  179.0 179.1 177.8 186.4   1.3
21. be101.rbx-g4-nc5.fr.eu                           0.0%   115  178.5 185.1 178.1 251.8  12.9
22. (waiting for reply)
23. ns318425.ip-37-59-16.eu                         55.7%   115  185.8 190.5 183.5 212.4   7.1
24. (waiting for reply)
25. (waiting for reply)
26. (waiting for reply)
27. ns3191696.ip-135-125-188.eu                      0.0%   115  183.3 188.4 182.4 221.7   7.0
 
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Hello peeps.

Can you do a ping to 135.125.188.130 and tell me the result and what's your ISP/plan?

Thanks!
M1 500 Mbps

Using Cloudflare WARP
C#:
Pinging 135.125.188.130 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=54
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=54
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=201ms TTL=54
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=203ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 135.125.188.130:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 201ms, Maximum = 203ms, Average = 202ms

C#:
Tracing route to ns3191696.ip-135-125-188.eu [135.125.188.130] over a maximum of 30 hops:
C#:
  1     4 ms     3 ms     3 ms  104.28.0.0
  2    14 ms     5 ms     5 ms  172.71.124.1
  3     5 ms     5 ms     5 ms  162.158.160.170
  4    68 ms    66 ms    66 ms  198.41.161.144
  5    58 ms     *       59 ms  198.41.161.116
  6   152 ms   153 ms   157 ms  198.41.160.137
  7   162 ms   162 ms   162 ms  ovh.mrs.franceix.net [37.49.232.27]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 10   177 ms   177 ms   176 ms  lil1-rbx1-vac1-a75-1-firewall.fr.eu [178.33.99.124]
 11   177 ms   177 ms   177 ms  lil1-rbx1-vac1-a75-2-shield.fr.eu [178.33.99.125]
 12   168 ms   168 ms   171 ms  lil1-rbx1-vac1-a75-3.fr.eu [178.33.99.123]
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20   200 ms   202 ms   198 ms  ns3191696.ip-135-125-188.eu [135.125.188.130]

Trace complete.

Not using Cloudflare WARP
C#:
Pinging 135.125.188.130 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=41
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=353ms TTL=41
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=41
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=354ms TTL=41

Ping statistics for 135.125.188.130:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 353ms, Maximum = 354ms, Average = 353ms

C#:
Tracing route to ns3191696.ip-135-125-188.eu [135.125.188.130] over a maximum of 30 hops:
C#:
  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  RT-AC1300UHP-FEB4 [192.168.1.1]
  2     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  124.246.64.1
  3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  186.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg [202.65.246.186]
  4     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  185.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg [202.65.246.185]
  5     3 ms     2 ms     2 ms  138.246.65.202.unknown.m1.com.sg [202.65.246.138]
  6     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  7     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9   187 ms   187 ms   187 ms  pdx1-hil1-vac1-a75-1-firewall.ovh.us [147.135.34.8]
 10   187 ms   186 ms   186 ms  pdx1-hil1-vac1-a75-2-shield.ovh.us [147.135.34.9]
 11   187 ms   187 ms   187 ms  pdx1-hil1-vac1-a75-3.ovh.us [147.135.34.7]
 12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 16     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 17   244 ms   247 ms   541 ms  be103.bhs-g1-nc5.qc.ca [198.27.73.206]
 18     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 19     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 20   348 ms   333 ms   653 ms  be101.rbx-g1-nc5.fr.eu [94.23.122.144]
 21     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 22     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 23     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 24     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 25     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 26   354 ms   354 ms   353 ms  ns3191696.ip-135-125-188.eu [135.125.188.130]

Trace complete.
 
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Hello peeps.

Can you do a ping to 135.125.188.130 and tell me the result and what's your ISP/plan?

Thanks!
I game on OVH EU servers so I know a bit about this.

When it comes to OVH Europe location if you want good ping, ISP need to take the initiative to carry uplink traffic via SMW5/etc cable rather than use the default path advertised by OVH that is going through their US POP.

ST has leased lines going to their POPs at London/Frankfurt/Amsterdam. Ping to OVH around 170ms+.

SH also has leased lines going to the same places. Ping was tested before by @Henry Ng around 155ms (see here). SH users can try ping to see if any changes since then, sometimes SH also load balance between US and EU. Actually if any SH user can send their traceroute would be nice. Thanks! :lick:

Code:
HOST: eri                                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS16276  51.89.228.1                                            0.0%     3    0.1   0.1   0.1   0.2   0.0
  2. AS???    192.168.143.254                                        0.0%     3    0.1   0.1   0.1   0.2   0.0
  7. AS???    10.73.249.4                                           33.3%     3    3.2   2.9   2.6   3.2   0.4
  8. AS16276  be103.lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu (91.121.215.118)         0.0%     3    1.0   1.2   1.0   1.4   0.2
  9. AS???    10.200.0.141                                           0.0%     3    0.9   0.9   0.9   1.0   0.0
 10. AS???    195.66.226.196                                         0.0%     3  229.9 230.1 229.9 230.2   0.1
 11. AS4657   203.118.6.242                                          0.0%     3  177.1 182.7 177.1 193.7   9.5
 12. AS4657   203.116.3-130.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.130)   0.0%     3  174.6 174.7 174.6 174.7   0.1
 
 HOST: gra                                                          Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS16276  141.94.18.1                                            0.0%     3    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.4   0.1
  2. AS???    192.168.143.254                                        0.0%     3    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.3   0.0
  7. AS???    10.95.33.8                                             0.0%     3    0.9   1.0   0.9   1.1   0.1
  8. AS16276  lon-thw-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu (91.121.215.179)                0.0%     3    3.8   3.9   3.8   4.0   0.1
  9. AS???    10.200.0.133                                           0.0%     3    3.7   3.7   3.7   3.7   0.0
 10. AS???    195.66.226.196                                         0.0%     3  334.3 336.9 334.3 341.9   4.3
 11. AS4657   203.116.3-74.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.74)     0.0%     3  273.7 276.7 273.7 282.6   5.1
 12. AS4657   203.116.3-130.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.130)   0.0%     3  273.8 276.9 273.8 282.9   5.3

M1 doesn't have a POP in EU. Uplink is carried by M1 to their US POP to interconnect with OVH before going to the EU. This means the minimum ping confirm more than 220 already. My ping to OVH from M1 is around 230ms+ or 340ms+ depending on the time of the day and whether the downlink Arelion goes via SMW cable or US.

Code:
PING 135.125.188.130 (135.125.188.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=257 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=256 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=257 ms
^C
--- 135.125.188.130 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 256.432/256.548/256.672/0.098 ms

VQ I believe will be the most stable in terms of routing changes as their overseas peering game is strong and they are proud of it. They also have their own leased lines and POPs in London/Frankfurt/Amsterdam.

Code:
HOST: eri                                                     Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS16276  51.89.228.1                                      0.0%     3    0.1   0.1   0.1   0.1   0.0
  2. AS???    192.168.143.254                                  0.0%     3    0.1   0.2   0.1   0.2   0.0
  6. AS???    10.73.32.190                                     0.0%     3    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.3   0.0
  7. AS???    10.73.249.4                                      0.0%     3    3.5   2.4   1.8   3.5   1.0
  8. AS16276  be103.lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu (91.121.215.118)   0.0%     3    1.4   1.3   1.1   1.4   0.2
  9. AS???    10.200.0.141                                     0.0%     3    1.1   1.0   1.0   1.1   0.1
 10. AS???    linx.vqbn.com (195.66.226.82)                    0.0%     3   16.0  16.0  15.9  16.0   0.1
 11. AS18106  45.121.84.1                                      0.0%     3  181.6 181.2 180.8 181.6   0.4
 

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AAE-1 is down, SH seems to be using that and only that, no other redundant lines. Seem to be routing via USA now.
I wonder if that's the same for MR and MR gamer.
 

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AAE-1 is down, SH seems to be using that and only that, no other redundant lines. Seem to be routing via USA now.
I wonder if that's the same for MR and MR gamer.
PEACE also down. Both cable cut at red sea. SMW5 is over capacity and SMW4 is outdated and pretty much useless. Unfortunate result of passing through unpeaceful waters, no submarines want to take up the repair job without charging high prices and risk being shot down.

SH still does seem to run via red sea but they are aggressive with the load balancing unlike ST or VQ.
Ping from Amsterdam to SH.

Code:
:~# ping 203.116.3.130
PING 203.116.3.130 (203.116.3.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 203.116.3.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=250 time=165 ms
64 bytes from 203.116.3.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=250 time=166 ms
64 bytes from 203.116.3.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=250 time=165 ms
64 bytes from 203.116.3.130: icmp_seq=4 ttl=250 time=165 ms
--- 203.116.3.130 ping statistics ---
5 packets transmitted, 4 received, 20% packet loss, time 4002ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 165.164/165.287/165.575/0.168 ms

:~# traceroute 203.116.3.130
traceroute to 203.116.3.130 (203.116.3.130), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  x.x.x.x (x.x.x.x)  0.403 ms  0.271 ms
 4  80.249.212.55 (80.249.212.55)  157.899 ms  247.940 ms
 5  203.118.6.242 (203.118.6.242)  187.440 ms  177.662 ms
 6  203.116.3-130.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.130)  157.805 ms  254.060 ms
 

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Hello peeps.

Can you do a ping to 135.125.188.130 and tell me the result and what's your ISP/plan?

Thanks!
Code:
C:\Windows\System32>ping 135.125.188.130

Pinging 135.125.188.130 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=252ms TTL=42
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=263ms TTL=42
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=276ms TTL=42
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=183ms TTL=42

Ping statistics for 135.125.188.130:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 183ms, Maximum = 276ms, Average = 243ms

ST:s22:...
 

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MR Gamer - 10Gbps
ping 135.125.188.130

Pinging 135.125.188.130 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=278ms TTL=40
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=278ms TTL=40
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=277ms TTL=40
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=278ms TTL=40

Ping statistics for 135.125.188.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 277ms, Maximum = 278ms, Average = 277ms


SH - 10Gbps
ping 135.125.188.130

Pinging 135.125.188.130 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=290ms TTL=49
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=49
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=49
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=261ms TTL=49

Ping statistics for 135.125.188.130:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 261ms, Maximum = 290ms, Average = 268ms
 

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using SH's 10Gbps plan...

Code:
C:\WINDOWS\system32>ping 135.125.188.130

Pinging 135.125.188.130 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=47
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=47
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=182ms TTL=47
Reply from 135.125.188.130: bytes=32 time=181ms TTL=47

Ping statistics for 135.125.188.130:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 181ms, Maximum = 182ms, Average = 181ms
 

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I game on OVH EU servers so I know a bit about this.

When it comes to OVH Europe location if you want good ping, ISP need to take the initiative to carry uplink traffic via SMW5/etc cable rather than use the default path advertised by OVH that is going through their US POP.

ST has leased lines going to their POPs at London/Frankfurt/Amsterdam. Ping to OVH around 170ms+.

SH also has leased lines going to the same places. Ping was tested before by @Henry Ng around 155ms (see here). SH users can try ping to see if any changes since then, sometimes SH also load balance between US and EU. Actually if any SH user can send their traceroute would be nice. Thanks! :lick:

Code:
HOST: eri                                                           Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS16276  51.89.228.1                                            0.0%     3    0.1   0.1   0.1   0.2   0.0
  2. AS???    192.168.143.254                                        0.0%     3    0.1   0.1   0.1   0.2   0.0
  7. AS???    10.73.249.4                                           33.3%     3    3.2   2.9   2.6   3.2   0.4
  8. AS16276  be103.lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu (91.121.215.118)         0.0%     3    1.0   1.2   1.0   1.4   0.2
  9. AS???    10.200.0.141                                           0.0%     3    0.9   0.9   0.9   1.0   0.0
 10. AS???    195.66.226.196                                         0.0%     3  229.9 230.1 229.9 230.2   0.1
 11. AS4657   203.118.6.242                                          0.0%     3  177.1 182.7 177.1 193.7   9.5
 12. AS4657   203.116.3-130.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.130)   0.0%     3  174.6 174.7 174.6 174.7   0.1
 
 HOST: gra                                                          Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS16276  141.94.18.1                                            0.0%     3    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.4   0.1
  2. AS???    192.168.143.254                                        0.0%     3    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.3   0.0
  7. AS???    10.95.33.8                                             0.0%     3    0.9   1.0   0.9   1.1   0.1
  8. AS16276  lon-thw-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu (91.121.215.179)                0.0%     3    3.8   3.9   3.8   4.0   0.1
  9. AS???    10.200.0.133                                           0.0%     3    3.7   3.7   3.7   3.7   0.0
 10. AS???    195.66.226.196                                         0.0%     3  334.3 336.9 334.3 341.9   4.3
 11. AS4657   203.116.3-74.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.74)     0.0%     3  273.7 276.7 273.7 282.6   5.1
 12. AS4657   203.116.3-130.unknown.starhub.net.sg (203.116.3.130)   0.0%     3  273.8 276.9 273.8 282.9   5.3

M1 doesn't have a POP in EU. Uplink is carried by M1 to their US POP to interconnect with OVH before going to the EU. This means the minimum ping confirm more than 220 already. My ping to OVH from M1 is around 230ms+ or 340ms+ depending on the time of the day and whether the downlink Arelion goes via SMW cable or US.

Code:
PING 135.125.188.130 (135.125.188.130) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=257 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=256 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=257 ms
^C
--- 135.125.188.130 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2003ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 256.432/256.548/256.672/0.098 ms

VQ I believe will be the most stable in terms of routing changes as their overseas peering game is strong and they are proud of it. They also have their own leased lines and POPs in London/Frankfurt/Amsterdam.

Code:
HOST: eri                                                     Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. AS16276  51.89.228.1                                      0.0%     3    0.1   0.1   0.1   0.1   0.0
  2. AS???    192.168.143.254                                  0.0%     3    0.1   0.2   0.1   0.2   0.0
  6. AS???    10.73.32.190                                     0.0%     3    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.3   0.0
  7. AS???    10.73.249.4                                      0.0%     3    3.5   2.4   1.8   3.5   1.0
  8. AS16276  be103.lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu (91.121.215.118)   0.0%     3    1.4   1.3   1.1   1.4   0.2
  9. AS???    10.200.0.141                                     0.0%     3    1.1   1.0   1.0   1.1   0.1
 10. AS???    linx.vqbn.com (195.66.226.82)                    0.0%     3   16.0  16.0  15.9  16.0   0.1
 11. AS18106  45.121.84.1                                      0.0%     3  181.6 181.2 180.8 181.6   0.4
My question is whether ping 155 ms consider good or bad?
 

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The following website says it belongs to OVH SAS (ASN: AS16276 OVH SAS), OVH Cloud in France.
https://www.ip-tracker.org/lookup.php?ip=135.125.188.130

I am using SingTel 5Gbps Fibre Internet plan.

Bash:
root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 4 135.125.188.130
PING 135.125.188.130 (135.125.188.130): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=0 ttl=42 time=183.755 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=1 ttl=42 time=200.081 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=2 ttl=42 time=182.698 ms
64 bytes from 135.125.188.130: seq=3 ttl=42 time=183.577 ms

--- 135.125.188.130 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 182.698/187.527/200.081 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# mtr 135.125.188.130

                                My traceroute  [v0.95]
OpenWrt (115.66.xxx.xxx) -> 135.125.188.130 (135.125.188.130)         2025-03-17T20:58:19+0800
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                                       Packets               Pings
 Host                                               Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
 1. bb115-66-xxx-254.singnet.com.sg                  0.0%   116    2.5   1.5   1.0   2.9   0.3
 2. 165.21.193.22                                    0.0%   116    3.5   5.9   2.2  28.0   5.9
 3. 165.21.193.21                                    0.0%   116    2.4   3.1   1.5  22.5   3.2
 4. 165.21.138.245                                  31.3%   116    2.2   3.9   1.8  60.8   7.2
 5. SN-SINQT1-BO403-ae1.singnet.com.sg               0.0%   116    1.8   2.0   1.6   2.4   0.2
 6. 203.208.177.213                                  0.0%   116    2.4   2.9   1.7  28.7   2.9
 7. xn-lhrcl1-bo706.ix.singtel.com                   0.0%   116    2.8   3.6   2.3  25.9   3.1
 8. 203.208.158.162                                  0.0%   116    3.5   4.0   2.9  31.2   3.6
 9. 203.208.158.62                                   1.7%   116  177.9 173.3 169.7 185.6   4.2
10. 203.208.178.222                                  0.0%   116  170.9 171.5 170.3 197.0   3.1
11. ldn-b3-link.ip.twelve99.net                      0.0%   116  171.0 170.7 170.1 173.6   0.5
12. (waiting for reply)
13. (waiting for reply)
14. (waiting for reply)
15. lon1-eri1-vac1-a75-1-firewall.uk.eu              0.0%   115  178.1 180.7 177.6 208.6   4.9
16. lon1-eri1-vac1-a75-2-shield.uk.eu                0.0%   115  178.3 180.7 177.6 213.0   5.1
17. lon1-eri1-vac1-a75-3.uk.eu                       0.0%   115  189.6 190.9 189.0 203.0   2.3
18. (waiting for reply)
19. (waiting for reply)
20. lon-drch-sbb1-nc5.uk.eu                          0.0%   115  179.0 179.1 177.8 186.4   1.3
21. be101.rbx-g4-nc5.fr.eu                           0.0%   115  178.5 185.1 178.1 251.8  12.9
22. (waiting for reply)
23. ns318425.ip-37-59-16.eu                         55.7%   115  185.8 190.5 183.5 212.4   7.1
24. (waiting for reply)
25. (waiting for reply)
26. (waiting for reply)
27. ns3191696.ip-135-125-188.eu                      0.0%   115  183.3 188.4 182.4 221.7   7.0
Hey care to share why you using Singtel because you do not recommend people to use it right? So just wondering in what case would Singtel still be a compelling option.
 

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Enhanced Fibre Take Over ETFO also no more alrdy. A bit sian to change telco. Everytime change one need to use new port or go through the dumb process of getting isp to release port for you. Stick to your current one less fuss and not lay zhei
Was there such a thing before? I changed a few time it, if I use port 1, then they will just use port 2 and vice versa, was not even aware there is another way to do it.
 

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Hey care to share why you using Singtel because you do not recommend people to use it right? So just wondering in what case would Singtel still be a compelling option.

IIRC he was lazy and Singtel fits his requirement. :s13:

Kind of true that I am lazy and very reluctant to change ISPs in general.

I don't recommend new users to go with SingTel because of ONR. If SingTel were to use ONT, I would have recommended SingTel to many users (except gamers and those who like to use torrent).

I was using SingTel ONT and SingTel ONT was very good for my use cases. By using a trick of adding a VLAN switch after the SingTel ONT, I could get dual dynamic public IPv4 addresses and dual /56 IPv6 prefixes. You can say it is a loophole from SingTel side. No other ISPs can do that even until now. So my 1Gbps plan was really well worth the S$40.65 per month pricing.

For the August 2024 recontract, I was eager to try out 5Gbps service and I was encouraged by the successful bridging story by the existing reports. So I did the recontract even though the offer was not good at S$49.90 per month (with free lousy SingTel AX5400 wireless router).

At that time (before August 2024), power users could bridge the SingTel issued ZTE ONR easily, the remaining ports would still work. So again that would mean two dynamic IPv4 addresses and two /56 IPv6 prefixes if I could get SingTel to activate native IPv6 for me.

Unfortunately SingTel changed something in August 2024 and I could not bridge the ZTE F868P ONR for about 1.5 months. I did managed to get SingTel to activate native IPv6 though. And I was kind of accept using things like DMZ, Double NAT and Tailscale to work around the issues of unbridged ONR. But it was still a downgrade compared to my previous SingTel 1Gbps setup.

Luckily I was able to bridge the ONR later. Things are still not as good as before though -- somehow devices connected to the unbridged ports cannot have Internet access. So I have now dual IPv4 address and dual /56 IPv6 prefixes (my own router and SingTel ONR). But I can use only one network (my own router). /56 IPv6 also does not work as intended and I can use it only as /64.

I may continue with SingTel for August 2026 recontract if bridging still works at that time. But I would not recommend new users to sign up with SingTel. This is especially true now that M1/Starhub plans are much more cost effective.

For existing SingTel users who have no issues with SingTel Fibre Internet services and unbridged ONR, I actually recommend them to stay as long as they accept the pricing (SingTel has some okay recontract offers as well from time to time).
 

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Is this plan worth it? 5Gbps Enhanced Mesh (WiFi 7) Plan at $78.55/mth (U.P. $135.35/mth) + Apple HomePod Mini + FREE $100 Shopping Voucher with 2 HB810 routers, am keen due to the 2 mesh routers or would it better to get the 29.90 plan and get 2 wifi 6 routers?
 

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Is this plan worth it? 5Gbps Enhanced Mesh (WiFi 7) Plan at $78.55/mth (U.P. $135.35/mth) + Apple HomePod Mini + FREE $100 Shopping Voucher with 2 HB810 routers, am keen due to the 2 mesh routers or would it better to get the 29.90 plan and get 2 wifi 6 routers?

Are you an existing Singtel user? If yes, ONR user or ONT user? If you are a new user, then no point.

New users:
M1 6Gbps at S$34.90 per month with free Archer BE805, adding another Archer BE805 at less than S$300 (dumped by M1 users), effective cost at S$47.4 per month with two TP-Link Archer BE805 mesh.

Starhub 5Gbps at S$29.55 per month with free HB710, adding another Archer BE805 at less than S$300, effective cost at S$42.05 per month with two TP-Link Archer BE805 + HB710 mesh. Or adding another EB810v from Starhub at S$360, effective cost at S$44.55 per month with EB810v + HB710 mesh.
 
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