[GLGT] Minister Ong Ye Kung Responds to KF Seetoh’s Untrue Claims About Bukit Canberra Hawker Centre

[sukukia]

so hawkers in nea run food centre don't need to pay s&cc, table cleaning and dishwashing fees? sure or not...

 

[qhong61]

how to verify if my customer is low income ah?

before giving him low income meal. and what is definition of low income? Is definition provided by whom? NEA or IRAS?

Blue chas

 

[gaul_ads]

Agencies like Socially-Conscious Enterprise Hawker Centres, what kind of value do they add to low cost FnB chain?

Edmwer teach me that non profit organisation does not mean management no salary ..
They can declare their own salary and costs until company don't make a profit.

 

[krikering]

I tot 9% GST is to help the poor, but instead asking hawkers to foot the free meals ?


Reader J T D :

Agree with youLeong Mun Wai 梁文辉… the onus should be on the G to make or at the very least help out the hawkers.. after all, we are paying right left and centre for everything with our tax payers funds. It’s a lot of talk but no concrete decisive action taken. Ask the G with their fat wallets to ‘Pay It Forward ‘ by starting with themselves as exemplary leaders.

Seetoh and LMW do raise a valid point. Why are they charge cleaning fees?

The tenants side already provided receipt/evidence, so can the landlord provide their side of story/reasoning for fairness?

And why is the govt answering this?

By right, the Canopy Hawkers group and those greedy landlords, etc. should be the ones to be held accountable for this. How long are they going to erode our hawker culture by continuing being so greedy?

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...er-centre-kf-seetoh-baskets-free-food-5290671

Finally replied liao, after the past few days of hoo-ha but once again never replied to the main point.

 

[krikering]

Source: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...er-centre-kf-seetoh-baskets-free-food-5290671



Once again, never directly provided the main clarifications on the main point(s) that people are seeking on.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...ms-over-storage-fee-and-charity-meal-clauses/


Continued disagreement over principle

While the Canopy Hawkers Group’s explanation directly addressed the storage fee claims, it did not resolve the disagreement with Seetoh.

The operator drew a clear distinction between charging for permanent fixtures and charging for temporary deliveries, whereas Seetoh’s concern lay in the fact that the space — regardless of its purpose — was tied to a charge in the example he cited.

Similarly, on the free meal clause, the group and Minister Ong both highlighted the voluntary and unenforced nature of the scheme, while Seetoh argued that the very presence of such a clause created unnecessary pressure and potential for future enforcement.

 

[titusilvering]

really meh? I think is valid point, why must they be bounded by contract to provide free meals.. if my buisness already suffered, should I continue to provide free meal?


Read HWZ Forum Rules!

Can ask? How can I claim free meal?

 

[Shion]

aiya just wait and see if any of these 2 will happen or not:
1. if kf seetoh kena pofma
2. if kf seetoh kena lawyer letter

 

[ribena.bing]

word play lor

charge for space.

but never charge for basket

lol. they are the same. they still unnecessarily increase hawker prices

 

[sky00sky]

word play lor

charge for space.

but never charge for basket

lol. they are the same. they still unnecessarily increase hawker prices

basket is 5th Dimension do not occupy space 1.

 

[titusilvering]

Eh what's wrong with making more money?

 

[AngryBirdBird]

aiya just wait and see if any of these 2 will happen or not:
1. if kf seetoh kena pofma
2. if kf seetoh kena lawyer letter

pofma + 1

 

[krikering]

word play lor

charge for space.

but never charge for basket

lol. they are the same. they still unnecessarily increase hawker prices

They really like to confuse people by playing with words to try to mislead them. Drill horse feet pointy.

 

[dambio]

Source: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...er-centre-kf-seetoh-baskets-free-food-5290671



Once again, never directly provided the main clarifications on the main point(s) that people are seeking on.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...ms-over-storage-fee-and-charity-meal-clauses/


Continued disagreement over principle

While the Canopy Hawkers Group’s explanation directly addressed the storage fee claims, it did not resolve the disagreement with Seetoh.

The operator drew a clear distinction between charging for permanent fixtures and charging for temporary deliveries, whereas Seetoh’s concern lay in the fact that the space — regardless of its purpose — was tied to a charge in the example he cited.

Similarly, on the free meal clause, the group and Minister Ong both highlighted the voluntary and unenforced nature of the scheme, while Seetoh argued that the very presence of such a clause created unnecessary pressure and potential for future enforcement.

Tis is 1 of d so called social enterprise who huat big?

 

[Zorroh]

Really don’t deserve LMW…

Why does he bother? He should just give up. Try so hard for what? People are happy.

 

[standarture]

This guy summarised quite well. Why private operators can profit off public property.

 

[dambio]

Those FB comments really funny with so many saying they miss LMW in Parliament.

Well, the new Parliament sessions w/o LMW haven't started leh.

They miss what ah?

Prolly people who dun follow politics but want to talk politics.

Surely not from d 65%

 

[standarture]

Just ban hawker from using or demarcate a space with requirements. Why must charge 70 bucks. And why design the stalls so small???

 

[dambio]

In November 2024, I pointed out that these fees at the SEHCs, such as table cleaning fees, dishwashing fees, S&CC fees and pest control fees, can add up to as much as the rent itself.

Another reason y our food so ex n kept rising?

For example, the hawkers at Bukit Canberra have been billed a $650 table cleaning fee. Why is such a high fee still being charged when customers have to clear their own tables?

Tis is most damning! Yes,y r they still being charged a table cleaning fee when tks to d great ex retired minister. We now clean it ourselves! For just wiping d table?

 

[volarth]

Smoke out!

Expected response from the PAP playbook. Obfuscate and let it blow over.

 

[standarture]

In November 2024, I pointed out that these fees at the SEHCs, such as table cleaning fees, dishwashing fees, S&CC fees and pest control fees, can add up to as much as the rent itself.

Another reason y our food so ex n kept rising?

For example, the hawkers at Bukit Canberra have been billed a $650 table cleaning fee. Why is such a high fee still being charged when customers have to clear their own tables?

Tis is most damning! Yes,y r they still being charged a table cleaning fee when tks to d great ex retired minister. We now clean it ourselves! For just wiping d table?

Sinkies voted for it mah. They love clearing their trays cos they feel shiok. But you still paying service charge lol.