[GLGT] Minister Ong Ye Kung Responds to KF Seetoh’s Untrue Claims About Bukit Canberra Hawker Centre

[ribena.bing]

So the basket got use or not? Can throw since u said use of space ? In order to use that space. Wad medium item is need? The basket?

like the article said

some hawker paid to build his own cabinet. cost him 1k

cheapo will use basket ba

in the end. hawkers are charged 70 bucks to use that space

charged approx 500 bucks for cleaning table services when we already returned the trays.

even more for washing ... some hawkers i know use disposable bowls even for dine ins... already suggests how ridiculous the charges are to wash...

crazy right. we keep the table nice and clean but lol. we pay even more when the service fees from hawkers are transferred to consumers in the food prices ..

 

[lizzykai]

like the article said

some hawker paid to build his own cabinet. cost him 1k

cheapo will use basket ba

in the end. hawkers are charged 70 bucks to use that space

charged approx 500 bucks for cleaning table services when we already returned the trays.

even more for washing ... some hawkers i know use disposable bowls even for dine ins... already suggests how ridiculous the charges are to wash...

crazy right. we keep the table nice and clean but lol. we pay even more when the service fees from hawkers are transferred to consumers in the food prices ..

Ask them justify the 30k monthly table cleaning fee, they might just say they don’t even earn any money from that…

 

[thyler_koh]

Pls stir bigger and make the useless pap and its cronies to do more work .

 

[Vinda99]

I am told we have footage of the Canopy rep Joey Tan as he was coming up with this response

 

[crunsik]

like the article said

some hawker paid to build his own cabinet. cost him 1k

cheapo will use basket ba

in the end. hawkers are charged 70 bucks to use that space

charged approx 500 bucks for cleaning table services when we already returned the trays.

even more for washing ... some hawkers i know use disposable bowls even for dine ins... already suggests how ridiculous the charges are to wash...

crazy right. we keep the table nice and clean but lol. we pay even more when the service fees from hawkers are transferred to consumers in the food prices ..

U wonder where all the money goes

 

[krikering]

Ask them justify the 30k monthly table cleaning fee, they might just say they don’t even earn any money from that…

Pls stir bigger and make the useless pap and its cronies to do more work .

They should completely scrap off the useless services.

I remember attending the F&B talk in Orange & Teal when CSJ held the discussion.

Got 1 uncle whom owns a stall in Golden Mile Complex or something, etc. So he say that need to pay a monthly charge for the tray return services.

So is got 1 central location, people put finished bowls there after eating then he collect from there.

He suggested that customers directly return to the stalls themselves instead, because additional work for him to go to the central location to collect the bowls.

Additional work and additional costs for him.

 

[tokong]

Source: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...er-centre-kf-seetoh-baskets-free-food-5290671



Once again, never directly provided the main clarifications on the main point(s) that people are seeking on.

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...ms-over-storage-fee-and-charity-meal-clauses/


Continued disagreement over principle

While the Canopy Hawkers Group’s explanation directly addressed the storage fee claims, it did not resolve the disagreement with Seetoh.

The operator drew a clear distinction between charging for permanent fixtures and charging for temporary deliveries, whereas Seetoh’s concern lay in the fact that the space — regardless of its purpose — was tied to a charge in the example he cited.

Similarly, on the free meal clause, the group and Minister Ong both highlighted the voluntary and unenforced nature of the scheme, while Seetoh argued that the very presence of such a clause created unnecessary pressure and potential for future enforcement.

Curious, anyone knows how much is the rental range over there?

Until now still 'to and fro' between these people and no one (including Seetoh himself) actually quotes and produces the rental fees per month of the hawkers.

Let's say if the hawker stall is very cheap per month, then isn't it ok that they give out free meals or cheap meals and the 70 dollar space is still affordable?

Seetoh himself misses out the most important information from the hawkers!

He should go back to New York to man that SG foodcourt there lah. How he stand up for the hawkers one, walao eh.

 

[Joseph12]

MSM has been slacking for a long time, and some of its staff should not be receiving bonuses or pay increments.

And they wonder why some people are upset by the huge bailout they got

 

[miko66]

I only know there's no free meals in this world ..

 

[Joseph12]

Curious, anyone knows how much is the rental range over there?

Until now still 'to and fro' between these people and no one (including Seetoh himself) actually quotes and produces the rental fees per month of the hawkers.

Let's say if the hawker stall is very cheap per month, then isn't it ok that they give out free meals or cheap meals and the 70 dollar space is still affordable?

Seetoh himself misses out the most important information from the hawkers!

He should go back to New York to man that SG foodcourt there lah. How he stand up for the hawkers one, walao eh.

Uh no
Rental is demand and supply right?

Not cos the rich boss in an act of kindness charges you $1 for rental

If so.and you pay $100 for rental its your hard work, luck or timing
So why should you give free charity meals

 

[Kiwi8]

MSM has been slacking for a long time, and some of its staff should not be receiving bonuses or pay increments.

No no no, MSM's KPI is being PAP mouthpiece, so they have not been slacking on this KPI at all, hence they have been receiving bonuses and pay increments.

 

[tokong]

Uh no
Rental is demand and supply right?

Not cos the rich boss in an act of kindness charges you $1 for rental

If so.and you pay $100 for rental its your hard work, luck or timing
So why should you give free charity meals

Hi Joseph, just my opinion only. I think that place the rental not cheap. That's is why got hawker complain all these little things to Seetoh.

 

[sbv7230]

All the big Hoo-Ha til now nobody mentioned if the food there is nice or not?
If not, just let it slide

 

[Go Fly Kite]

When you're Under the right canopy, you speak volume....

 

[Checkyrmed]

No no no, MSM's KPI is being PAP mouthpiece, so they have not been slacking on this KPI at all, hence they have been receiving bonuses and pay increments.

Not surprising at all, when OYK promotes RBD seed oils, the MSM echoes the narrative, cementing public acceptance despite the clear evidence of disastrous metabolic harm.

 

[buttbERry]

so who right who wrong?

 

[kleong]

Shan ge said

“To a gay person, even if Section 377A is not enforced, it is there: Memorialised in law, a sword hanging over his head, a daily reminder that every time he engages in private sexual activity, behind closed doors in the sanctity of his bedroom, he is nevertheless a criminal.

So same line of argument, even free meal is not enforced, it is in the contract. A reminder that every month the hawker does not offer free meal, the hawker is nevertheless breaching the terms in the contract.

 

[buttbERry]

this one when parliament re open will someone ask questions?

 

[footi3]

the real issue ish gahment don’t see any issues

 

[Medicated Oil]

The issue is pretty straight forward.
Dunno why the operator and some advisor need to twist and turn it till it become some rocket science.

I am wondering WHERE is the LISTENING that LW mentioned the campaign.
Or his LISTENING is to be done by the residents and THEY are the one DOING THE TALKING.

Storage space
- Just draw a box on the ground for the tenants to put their stuff so that they do not create some fire hazard at the back of their store WITH NO RENTAL involved.

Charity Meal
- Remove it or the existing hawkers have to unite and approach the Monitor in charge to resolve it if the operator REFUSE to BULGE.
- As long as it is stated in their agreement, they MUST COMPLY if call upon. The penalty will be at the discretion of the OPERATOR. Please STOP the nonsense about NO PENALTY or else it defeats the purpose of putting the clause there.
- Do we want to label it as a case of the operator BULLYING the tenants ?