new maid borrows from loan shark

[tinwhistle83]

Hi

can check new maid (few months with us) borrow from loan shark (uml). technically she is cleared from police as they have deemed her as not assisting loan shark in anyway, so its up to me if want to keep helper or no.

we have confirmed a new helper (from same agency) as still within their exchange policy. but standard contract is that usually need to give 21 days for existing helper to find new employer in normal cases. these 21 days is like a notice period which existing helper can stay in the same employer house or stay with agency (but employer need to pay for 1st 21 days of lodging). i do not wish to let my helper know i am terminating her service.

when maid agency 1st knew about this helper loan shark issue, they say its up to me to want to still keep or send her back to her country. so now sending back to her country seems like on my onus now and from out of my pocket.

technically existing helper can still work in singapore. but i cannot imagine anyone who wants to hire her because of this loan shark issue and any agency who dare to advertise this helper.

so my question is since i am still within the free exchange policy, should i be responsible to send my helper back and paid for costs involved. or should agency take up the responsibilty and pick up the cost?

 

[buttbERry]

sometimes dont hire maid is better

 

[tinwhistle83]

my feel is why should i pick up the tab and responsibilty since i hire her from agency and since within free exchange period, agency is somewhat responsible.

cannot be take agency fee and whatever helper do, its up to employer to pay mah.

 

[tinwhistle83]

sometimes dont hire maid is better

tell our government that. easier said than done. even ministers also have helpers

 

[Courage]

Maids who borrow from loan sharks must be sent back, if not she will continue to borrow and you will have endless harassment

 

[Euqorab]

Agency is there for a reason

they dare take commissions means they must take responsibility

 

[obsceneK2]

Throw back to agency.

 

[buttbERry]

tell our government that. easier said than done. even ministers also have helpers

keyword is sometimes

 

[tinwhistle83]

so my think is throw back to agency and agency absorbs all costs.

i am not going to pay the 21days lodging fee nor flight back. though 21 days lodging fee was stipulated in the contract.

 

[tinwhistle83]

if agency takes back and dare transfer her to anyone else its unethical.

so this 21days should not apply.

 

[Ipod]

Agency did not train the helper well. In future better don’t choose this agency. Sometimes it is very worthwhile paying agency fees for fuss free helper.

I think just suay loh. Sending helper back is hirer responsibility. I would just send back immediately. Don’t even want to keep her in the house. No idea what things will be lost within this period.

this 21 days of finding new helper is quite standard. It’s the amount of time required for new helper to be ready.

also I never heard of this 21 days to give to the helper that you want to fire. Never saw this clause in the contract that I signed. If we kanna fire, the company will be so nice to give us 21 days? Not all company will do so. Leave on the spot, less worry.

 

[Mecisteus]

Can she do work or not ?

If yes, give her a chance lah.

Regardless you throw her or not, loanshark already know your house. Install CCTVs for security reason.

 

[tinwhistle83]

Can she do work or not ?

If yes, give her a chance lah.

Regardless you throw her or not, loanshark already know your house. Install CCTVs for security reason.

my spouse thinks she is ok. her work so-so but she is quite dishonest in terms of telling lies like when i asked if she did this work, she will say yes but i have cctv in the house which clearly shows she did not. so her integrity is a bit questionable. also when we go holiday, have told her the agreed time to come back, she came back 2 hours later after i messgaed her where she was. my mum who came to visit, also has caught her disappeared from our house for at least 2 hours when we were on holiday and her excuse is she went nearby coffeeshop to eat and buy things cos she is alone and lazy to cook for herself. so she was actually gone from our house for 3 hours+ from cctv

if its a helper who has been with us for a long time, and did out of a moment of folly i might still forgive. but this is just been with us for a few months.

 

[articland05]

so she knows u r gonna kick her away?
is she still staying in ur hse?
very dangerous leh...later she think not open take knife poke everybody

 

[TOKARA]

my spouse thinks she is ok. her work so-so but she is quite dishonest in terms of telling lies like when i asked if she did this work, she will say yes but i have cctv in the house which clearly shows she did not. so her integrity is a bit questionable. also when we go holiday, have told her the agreed time to come back, she came back 2 hours later after i messgaed her where she was. my mum who came to visit, also has caught her disappeared from our house for at least 2 hours when we were on holiday and her excuse is she went nearby coffeeshop to eat and buy things cos she is alone and lazy to cook for herself. so she was actually gone from our house for 3 hours+ from cctv

if its a helper who has been with us for a long time, and did out of a moment of folly i might still forgive. but this is just been with us for a few months.

Dont bother then

 

[Money no have]

my spouse thinks she is ok. her work so-so but she is quite dishonest in terms of telling lies like when i asked if she did this work, she will say yes but i have cctv in the house which clearly shows she did not. so her integrity is a bit questionable. also when we go holiday, have told her the agreed time to come back, she came back 2 hours later after i messgaed her where she was. my mum who came to visit, also has caught her disappeared from our house for at least 2 hours when we were on holiday and her excuse is she went nearby coffeeshop to eat and buy things cos she is alone and lazy to cook for herself. so she was actually gone from our house for 3 hours+ from cctv

if its a helper who has been with us for a long time, and did out of a moment of folly i might still forgive. but this is just been with us for a few months.

Already so many red flags what else you need?
Validation? Then you have my vote to kick her out!!! And F the agency !!!

 

[tinwhistle83]

so she knows u r gonna kick her away?
is she still staying in ur hse?
very dangerous leh...later she think not open take knife poke everybody

she doesnt know yet. we are still nice to her.

a bit difficult to send her away immediately. but we def will when new helper is arriving soon. cos new helper can come in only 3-4 weeks later

 

[tinwhistle83]

Already so many red flags what else you need?
Validation? Then you have my vote to kick her out!!! And F the agency !!!

def send her. but now who is going to pay? me or agency?

 

[Money no have]

def send her. but now who is going to pay? me or agency?

Of course agency, question is are you prepare to fight liao lor

 

[~sabaisabai~]

so my think is throw back to agency and agency absorbs all costs.

i am not going to pay the 21days lodging fee nor flight back. though 21 days lodging fee was stipulated in the contract.

We did terminate the previous maid and within the period of exchange policy. We just sent back to agency. No need to pay for her food and lodging. Agency gao dim