GOMO Broadband ! 10 Gpbs !

[SpawnXp]

The routing not fixed after so many years?

Dont think so.
Iirc got one time when I was testing out.
I did a tracert to a local site and the routing was horrible.
Sg to hk then back to sg.
Too bad singtel dont practice open routing rights

 

[Phen8210]

It depends on the location.

Singtel is way better than M1/StarHub for China. But then worse for quite some other locations.

Reference: Fastest ISP thread. M1 and SIMBA may not be good for China contents.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/fastest-isp.6996674/page-3 (04-Feb-2024)

mr gamer seems quite solid across the world

 

[ieatcable]

The routing not fixed after so many years?

Was never truly fixed. Any improvements were coincidental and not permanent.

To sum up, this is why.

• Singtel (ST) does not peer at IX. Settlement-free peering allows multiple networks to transfer traffic to one another at a much lower cost. Networks just need to pay port fees to connect at any local internet exchange (IX) like SGIX, BBIX and Equinix.
• ST doesn't want to peer settlement-free because they despise that networks can exchange traffic to each other for cheap. This makes IP transit business less valuable and profitable which obviously affects ST.
• If a network like ST doesn't participate or peer at the IX, other networks have to find other means to reach ST. Mainly going through third party IP transit, which is way more costly and is not direct.
• ST purposely practices "traffic tromboning" with its third party transit providers and they are not shy to admit it. That means forcing traffic to divert through other countries like HK and USA. This results in high latency, even if the two networks are in SG.
• ST has market share, so it puts pressure on the other parties to be the one to optimise the latency.
• The playbook is: create a problem, and then sell the solution. The other networks will be pressured to purchase ST's IP transit for direct connectivity to fix the latency issue.

The same network will be used in GOMO broadband plans. Do consider this part before going with GOMO. Latency to China will be good. But latency elsewhere (even within SG) will be unreliable.

By the way, StarHub (SH) could technically do the same since they hold larger broadband share. Fortunately SH has been more open to peering with smaller networks and they don't deliberately trombone traffic.

 

[kashix]

just curious, is the hardware on the router capable of 10Gbps? i saw x2 10GbE port

Only by Wired connection via the secondary 10GbE port for that single device, unless you connect to a 10G Switch. Wi-Fi cannot hit as only 2.4/5GHz. That router not very good leh, colleague use before.

 

[joeltng]

It baffles me what /why Singtel would put this plan into a sub brand spinned off by themselves. Isit just a branding thing? Cause I can't figure out any other benefits for not just putting it under Singtel itself...

 

[xiaofan]

It baffles me what /why Singtel would put this plan into a sub brand spinned off by themselves. Isit just a branding thing? Cause I can't figure out any other benefits for not just putting it under Singtel itself...

Less support from Gomo than from Singtel, to compete with eight home internet.

For example, I do not think you would get Singtel physical shop support for the Gomo Fibre Internet. You only get "24/7 live chat support with Zenmo".

https://www.eight.com.sg/home-internet
https://www.gomo.sg/?tab=broadband#plans

 

[Kepller]

Only by Wired connection via the secondary 10GbE port for that single device, unless you connect to a 10G Switch. Wi-Fi cannot hit as only 2.4/5GHz. That router not very good leh, colleague use before.

Is their advertised 7200 mbps max bandwidth for Wifi accurate? If so that D Link router while not being able to hit 10 gbps, would at least be considered decent? I think @keenklee is using this router correct? Perhaps he could confirm the wifi performance.

It baffles me what /why Singtel would put this plan into a sub brand spinned off by themselves. Isit just a branding thing? Cause I can't figure out any other benefits for not just putting it under Singtel itself...

Just some wild assumptions, it could be their way of separating the customer tech support service. If they put these plans under SingTel and then restrict subscribers from this plan to only 24/7 live chat without their usual hotline tech support, there may be even more complains.

Additionally from what the gomo service agent told me, support ends at the ONR/ONT. Even if the customer chooses to use the D-Link Router that comes with the plan, that router will be treated as 3rd party device and they will direct the customers to D-Link for tech support matters. Singtel handles tech support for even their issued router. So perhaps they prefer it this way under a different brand so there would be less confusion.

 

[xiaofan]

Is their advertised 7200 mbps max bandwidth for Wifi accurate? If so that D Link router while not being able to hit 10 gbps, would at least be considered decent?

That BE7200 is just marketing jargon. The 2x2 WiFi device will not hit above 2Gbps with this router.

I call it the "worst 10Gbps capable wireless router" in Singapore market, with low end CPU and only 512MB RAM.
https://www.dlink.com.sg/products/d...0g-gigabit-mesh-router?variant=45183311052996

I will prefer the Starhub issued HB710 (at S$192 from Starhub, at a bit lower price from Carousell) than this D-Link myself. It has dual 10G port, triband BE18000, Qualcomm IPQ5322 CPU and 1GB RAM. Of course it has no extra gigabit LAN ports so you may need to add a switch if you have more wired devices.

 

[joeltng]

Less support from Gomo than from Singtel, to compete with eight home internet.

For example, I do not think you would get Singtel physical shop support for the Gomo Fibre Internet. You only "24/7 live chat support with Zenmo".

Just some wild assumptions, it could be their way of separating the customer tech support service. If they put these plans under SingTel and then restrict subscribers from this plan to only 24/7 live chat without their usual hotline tech support, there may be even more complains.

Yea, support wise might be abit lesser but for their supposedly more budget brand to have better "features" (ONT vs Fixed ONR on Singtel) at a lower cost abit of a head scratcher.

 

[xiaofan]

Yea, support wise might be abit lesser but for their supposedly more budget brand to have better "features" (ONT vs Fixed ONR on Singtel) at a lower cost abit of a head scratcher.

Haha, that is what power users think. SingTel may not agree that ONR is worse than ONT.

For Singtel, indeed it is easier for them to use ONR and TP-Link Service Provider Models (HB611-SGST and HB810) for easier management.

Power users will anyway not like ONR and move to other ISPs, or bridge the ONR manually.

Most of the average users may not care about ONR or ONT, and some users actually prefer ONR as ONR can be put inside the DB Box to provide wired connection to the room LAN ports.

 

[keenklee]

Is their advertised 7200 mbps max bandwidth for Wifi accurate? If so that D Link router while not being able to hit 10 gbps, would at least be considered decent? I think @keenklee is using this router correct? Perhaps he could confirm the wifi performance.

IMHO.
If it is the DPN-BE7212GR then it is the one I am using.
This a dual-band Wifi 7 router i.e. no 6 Ghz. Un-optimised wifi 7, I can reach 14xx / 11xx Mbps at about 2m.
If supports MLO.

On 10Gbe performance, I have not install 10Gbe PCI NIC yet thus not able to see the full speed.
I have a setup running 5Gbe USB ( about 47xx Mbps up/down) and 10Gbe USB ( about 6xxx Mbps up/down ).
IIRC when I run both together, combined should exceed 8xxx Mbps.

P.S. This router cost < $200 so must adjust expectation accordingly mah. Also, I got but yet to install TPLINK BE65 Pro 3 nodes. Single fast router is useless to me as I am on wired 10Gbe.

 

[keenklee]

That BE7200 is just marketing jargon. The 2x2 WiFi device will not hit above 2Gbps with this router.

I call it the "worst 10Gbps capable wireless router" in Singapore market, with low end CPU and only 512MB RAM.
https://www.dlink.com.sg/products/d...0g-gigabit-mesh-router?variant=45183311052996

IMHO.
Expectation should be kept low given it is < $200.
What I like about it is that the firmware is direct vs some other ISP update routers which can be messy.
CPU speed is not everything if using hardware accelerators like Mediatek FIlogic.
It is no longer faster CPU the better
I intend to run Wireguard and I am not certain if there are common routers that can give the throughput like the Brume 3.

 

[jezzmatezz]

Has anyone used GOMO?
Any feedback please?
planning to make a switch from M1

 

[gapboy]

Has anyone used GOMO?
Any feedback please?
planning to make a switch from M1

This is a new plan from GOMO i doubt anyone has it yet

 

[doki81]

tempting to switch from my M1 2gbps to this new offer. M1 renewal, still need me to pay the NLT activation fee which around $160++ might as well go for new ISP?

 

[gapboy]

tempting to switch from my M1 2gbps to this new offer. M1 renewal, still need me to pay the NLT activation fee which around $160++ might as well go for new ISP?

Existing M1 customer need to pay NLT fees?

 

[doki81]

Existing M1 customer need to pay NLT fees?

my bad..they charge $123.41 for ONT installation! still something i won't pay for..

 

[gapboy]

my bad..they charge $123.41 for ONT installation! still something i won't pay for..

i remembered 1 year+ ago i don't pay ONT installation fees for renewal .. from 500mbps > 2.5Ghz. I they do charge now .... i won't pay for it too !

 

[doki81]

i remembered 1 year+ ago i don't pay ONT installation fees for renewal .. from 500mbps > 2.5Ghz. I they do charge now .... i won't pay for it too !

definitely won't renew with m1. their offer now for 6gbps at 27.90. but if sign up eight / gomo / whizcomm 10gbps still cheaper and i can opt for self pickup the ont router for install. it's just plug and play.

 

[gapboy]

definitely won't renew with m1. their offer now for 6gbps at 27.90. but if sign up eight / gomo / whizcomm 10gbps still cheaper and i can opt for self pickup the ont router for install. it's just plug and play.

yeap i am due for early renewal the plan sucks and no modem included