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In October, 2025, DBS said the Straits Times Index could reach nearly 10,000 by 2040 (with a further caveat). Not exactly a bold prediction!

Yesterday the Straits Times Index closed at 4,828. To reach 10,000 in 15 years (which would be consistent with "nearly 10,000 by 2040" since we now have less than 15 years to the end of 2040) the STI would need a CAGR of 4.97% per year. That's...not impossible.

There's another important caveat. The Straits Times Index is somewhat more REIT-heavy than in the past. REIT share prices are less likely to appreciate, other things being equal. They're legally required to distribute at least 90% of net earnings as dividends. Indeed, REITs often suffer capital erosion. Those "REIT effects" make STI increases more challenging than otherwise.
 

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Okay I'm lost now..

I scanned through all my portfolio.

It is as follows

1)
UOB unit Trust east spring investment worth 5,905 down from 10,300 which is a lost

2) SC
35,309 into
STI - 5000 units
Sheng Siong - 3000 units
ESR Reits - 780 units

3) POSB
37,598 into STI 7,560 units

4) SRS - 31,227
3,201 into STI ETF worth 15,927 SGD
15,300 SGD new investment intending to buy ISAC

5) Moo - 168,000 into various reits , business trust and SDR. Very little banks

6) iFast - 7,156 into First Sientier bridge A

7) IKBR - 17,141 USD in CSPX - I think around 23 units.

So approximately im at 291,321 total

What should I do next ?

My plan is

Continue to increase my portfolio in Moo and pump in for income generating stocks...

I had yet to balance my reits with bank stock...
 

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I took your advice and get AI for help

It said that I'm quite exposed to Singapore market and wanted me to diversify. Also I might not need bank stock as mostly of my STI are local banks.

Sell off Ifast and UOB and switch them to Moo and IKBR.

Focus on getting my CSPX / ISAC to 50 percent of my portfolio before considering to add more to my income portfolio.
 

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I took your advice and get AI for help

It said that I'm quite exposed to Singapore market and wanted me to diversify. Also I might not need bank stock as mostly of my STI are local banks.

Sell off Ifast and UOB and switch them to Moo and IKBR.

Focus on getting my CSPX / ISAC to 50 percent of my portfolio before considering to add more to my income portfolio.
if u retiring in sg and sti gives good yield, then it is good. local bank stocks also good for div. sti doesnt give as much div.

why did u buy the uob and ifast ut?

(not vested in sti, local banks, east spring ut, first sientier ut)
 
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I scanned through all my portfolio.
It is as follows
UOB unit Trust east spring investment worth 5,905 down from 10,300 which is a lost
Which unit trust? Eastspring Investments manages several.
2) SC
35,309 into
STI - 5000 units
Sheng Siong - 3000 units
IMHO you shouldn't be holding any individual stocks.
ESR Reits - 780 units
IMHO you shouldn't overweight any sector.
3) POSB
37,598 into STI 7,560 units
4) SRS - 31,227
3,201 into STI ETF worth 15,927 SGD
15,300 SGD new investment intending to buy ISAC
To my knowledge you cannot invest in ISAC using SRS dollars. However, you can invest in A12S via POEMS using SRS dollars. However (again), for tax optimization reasons your SRS account should hold your lowest expected yielding assets within your total investment portfolio.
5) Moo - 168,000 into various reits , business trust and SDR. Very little banks
IMHO you shouldn't invest in individual stocks or overweight any sector.
6) iFast - 7,156 into First Sientier bridge A
First Sentier Bridge A is a horribly expensive unit trust (1.43% expense ratio). IMHO it's garbage for that reason alone.
7) IKBR - 17,141 USD in CSPX - I think around 23 units.
Unless you plan to retire in the United States or in a U.S. dollarized country (and perhaps not even then), CSPX is not for you.
So approximately im at 291,321 total
What should I do next ?
Reorient, simplify, and reduce costs.
My plan is
Continue to increase my portfolio in Moo and pump in for income generating stocks...
I have no opinion on whether Moomoo is a good broker for you, but "income generating stocks" don't make any sense IMHO. I don't think you should filter stocks based on how they might deliver returns to shareholders. Let good managers figure that out. If they decide share buybacks, acquisitions, and business growth investments (which tend to generate capital gains) are better than cash dividends, or vice versa, that's fine.
I had yet to balance my reits with bank stock...
IMHO you should not invest in any individual stocks and should not overweight any sectors.

The only possible exception I can think of is if you work for an employer that has an Employee Stock Purchase Program (ESPP) with a share price discount and there's a requirement or incentive to hold some number of ESPP shares for a minimum period of time — for example, to avoid selling shares you acquired less than 2 years ago if you want to continue participating in the ESPP.
I took your advice and get AI for help
It said that I'm quite exposed to Singapore market and wanted me to diversify.
Score one point for AI on this occasion.
Also I might not need bank stock as mostly of my STI are local banks.
Score another point.
Sell off Ifast and UOB and switch them to Moo and IKBR.
That feedback seems like you asked a leading question. Maybe it's correct, but broker decisions fundamentally come after you figure out what your investment posture should be.
Focus on getting my CSPX / ISAC to 50 percent of my portfolio before considering to add more to my income portfolio.
That sort of makes sense, but AI should have told you to avoid CSPX — to avoid overweighting any stock market(s) except perhaps the one in the country where you plan to retire, and then only modestly.
if u retiring in sg and sti gives good yield, then it is good. local bank stocks also good for div. sti doesnt give as much div.
Don't worry about dividends as such. (See above.) Total long-term net shareholder returns matter. History is replete with worthless stocks that paid "generous" dividends until they didn't. Amazon, Meta, Berkshire Hathaway, and many other outstanding performing stocks have never paid even one penny of dividends.
why did u buy the uob and ifast ut?
(not vested in sti, local banks, east spring ut, first sientier ut)
I can probably answer that: because Soomp! has never had any investment strategy except to buy whatever "seemed" attractive at a moment in time. Decide on a sensible investment strategy with a sensible portfolio allocation first, then execute it in a low cost way with consistency.
 

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Don't worry about dividends as such. (See above.) Total long-term net shareholder returns matter. History is replete with worthless stocks that paid "generous" dividends until they didn't. Amazon, Meta, Berkshire Hathaway, and many other outstanding performing stocks have never paid even one penny of dividends.

I can probably answer that: because Soomp! has never had any investment strategy except to buy whatever "seemed" attractive at a moment in time. Decide on a sensible investment strategy with a sensible portfolio allocation first, then execute it in a low cost way with consistency.
he said he is an income investor focusing on div stocks for retirement. I respect his investment objectives.
 

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he said he is an income investor focusing on div stocks for retirement. I respect his investment objectives.
OK, and I'm voicing a different opinion on sound retirement financial planning — that it doesn't make any financial sense to filter stocks based on how they deliver returns.(*) Presumably neither one of us will manage Soomp!'s investment portfolio.

(*) Except perhaps in jurisdictions where tax-related factors apply. Oddly enough for tax residents of Singapore those considerations occasionally argue against dividends compared to capital gains. But you'd never know that for all the people who still seem to think they should be "income investors" and filter stocks based on dividend payouts.
 

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CSPX very costly now
800++ SGD per share...

LSPU only US$71.06, SPXS is even 'cheaper' at US$13.83.

I am vested in LSPU and VUSD. They are suitable for me because both pay dividends, but not suitable for those that don't like. 😅
 

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he said he is an income investor focusing on div stocks for retirement. I respect his investment objectives.
Frankly I think that his choice of STI ETF + SREITs is a good starting point for an SG based income investor.
When I started, I also started with STI ETF + SREITs + other dividend stocks.

Later when capital became bigger, and Interactive Brokers came along, and I had some more years of experience investing, I started to add overseas dividend stocks.

The key thing is to choose good dividend stocks, good in terms of earnings and free cash flow, and preferably buy at a good price and be prepared to hold on. Apart from doing your own fundamental analysis, I also referred to as morningstar's analyst reports as a guide, and ensure my entry price has sufficient margin of safety.

Some dividend stocks have capital gain, some may flatline, but as long as they are good stocks, just keep calm and collect dividends. 😅
 

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I am not an advisor nor experienced in investment. I think for age 42 retiring by 50, the objective is more to diversify risks (instead of just one market) and also build up fixed income (mostly bonds).

All of these are supposed to supplement CPF Life payout.
 

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Frankly I think that his choice of STI ETF + SREITs is a good starting point for an SG based income investor.
When I started, I also started with STI ETF + SREITs + other dividend stocks
I'm actually following Dividend Warrior style.

He is into reits , banks and now he is on US for growth...

Later I get to know Christopher Ng that had the 4 sectors portfolio.

Reits , bank , business trust and SDRs
Later when capital became bigger, and Interactive Brokers came along, and I had some more years of experience investing, I started to add overseas dividend stocks.

The key thing is to choose good dividend stocks, good in terms of earnings and free cash flow, and preferably buy at a good price and be prepared to hold on. Apart from doing your own fundamental analysis, I also referred to as morningstar's analyst reports as a guide, and ensure my entry price has sufficient margin of safety.

Some dividend stocks have capital gain, some may flatline, but as long as they are good stocks, just keep calm and collect dividends. 😅
 

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if u retiring in sg and sti gives good yield, then it is good. local bank stocks also good for div. sti doesnt give as much div.

why did u buy the uob and ifast ut?
I got it before I even started investing...

UOB was when I visited the bank , the predential agent sold it to me.

The other is my ex colleague wife who worked in IPP sold it to me 16 years ago ....
(not vested in sti, local banks, east spring ut, first sientier ut)
 

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Which unit trust? Eastspring Investments manages several.

IMHO you shouldn't be holding any individual stocks.
Noted
IMHO you shouldn't overweight any sector.
Noted.
To my knowledge you cannot invest in ISAC using SRS dollars. However, you can invest in A12S via POEMS using SRS dollars. However (again), for tax optimization reasons your SRS account should hold your lowest expected yielding assets within your total investment portfolio.
I did ISAC with SRS with stashaway. It is possible
IMHO you shouldn't invest in individual stocks or overweight any sector.
Noted.
First Sentier Bridge A is a horribly expensive unit trust (1.43% expense ratio). IMHO it's garbage for that reason alone.

Wow...now then I know.. I had gained 80+ percent from it. Maybe I should get rid of it ? It is now at 7K +
Unless you plan to retire in the United States or in a U.S. dollarized country (and perhaps not even then), CSPX is not for you.
I planned to retire in Indonesia. Why we don't invest in CSPX to get exposure to US market in Ireland domicile?
Reorient, simplify, and reduce costs.

I have no opinion on whether Moomoo is a good broker for you, but "income generating stocks" don't make any sense IMHO. I don't think you should filter stocks based on how they might deliver returns to shareholders. Let good managers figure that out. If they decide share buybacks, acquisitions, and business growth investments (which tend to generate capital gains) are better than cash dividends, or vice versa, that's fine.

IMHO you should not invest in any individual stocks and should not overweight any sectors.

The only possible exception I can think of is if you work for an employer that has an Employee Stock Purchase Program (ESPP) with a share price discount and there's a requirement or incentive to hold some number of ESPP shares for a minimum period of time — for example, to avoid selling shares you acquired less than 2 years ago if you want to continue participating in the ESPP.
I am a self employed.
Score one point for AI on this occasion.

Score another point.

That feedback seems like you asked a leading question. Maybe it's correct, but broker decisions fundamentally come after you figure out what your investment posture should be.

That sort of makes sense, but AI should have told you to avoid CSPX — to avoid overweighting any stock market(s) except perhaps the one in the country where you plan to retire, and then only modestly.
I still can't understand why avoid CSPX ? It comes with 10+ annual returns since it track S&P 500.
Don't worry about dividends as such. (See above.) Total long-term net shareholder returns matter. History is replete with worthless stocks that paid "generous" dividends until they didn't. Amazon, Meta, Berkshire Hathaway, and many other outstanding performing stocks have never paid even one penny of dividends.

I can probably answer that: because Soomp! has never had any investment strategy except to buy whatever "seemed" attractive at a moment in time. Decide on a sensible investment strategy with a sensible portfolio allocation first, then execute it in a low cost way with consistency.

I try to follow and doesn't have my own way...but try to do income first and later growth. Very similar to dividend warrior
 

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I got it before I even started investing...

UOB was when I visited the bank , the predential agent sold it to me.

The other is my ex colleague wife who worked in IPP sold it to me 16 years ago ....
hmm, buying ut is investing. u ans how u bought them but I was asking "why".
u r the most vulnerable type of "investor", buying products when introduced. not knowing exactly what u r buying, the risks involved. when u cross the road, don't play hp or blindly follow the ppl in front. look out for traffic lights and the cars.
I have 3 ut: Mari invest income, Mari invest gold and schroder Asian growth. i bought them because got promo. hehe
 
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